"Woke" Franchises

[Argent]

Anyone watch that show? Was it any good?

I did and the Wokeness while not helping I would argue was not the main reason. Overall the show had a lot problems.

Frist off the show picks up almost 30 years after the comic. Which means that the comic is canon which is a good thing but that is where it ends. The show hints at the comic and the needed background but little more. You are left to pick up a lot of context needed to understand the Watchman world. I watched it with someone that never read the comic and that lack of expansion on the world left them confused and disliking the show.

Then you get to the overall plot. It is a mess of confusion with a lot of got you points that have little foreshadowing. It also doesn't help the villains are flat and stereotypes.

Then you have the Wokeness which I was expecting. In the comic you have some lines and scenes about sex and rape. So I expected a decent amount of wokeness. The fact that the main charater is black is not that bad. The charater herself does little to spout woke black lines. The family history plot was actually interesting even if I felt had parts that where over done.

But overall the show nearly had enough of an overarching plot for one season and I had little interest in seeing what happens next. They brealy expanded on Slik Specter and how she adapted to the wrold post space monster.

So overall the show was not horrible but you have to have read the comic to truly understand the show and like the new Watchmen. Which limits the audience. So with HBO searching for the new Game of Thrones with Watchmen and Golden Compass I am not surprised to see the Watchman come up short. It had potential but failed to execute the plots and large parts of the show felt forced at times.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

That sounds incredibly vapid in general from your description, and an absolute chore to read. I have no idea why it got popular.

Character interactions mostly. Before the tumblr-tards took over, Hussie wrote quite fun stories. There were also short flashes where you could explorer a map and interact with it to some degree. Hussie managed to push the HTML medium to its limits, using various abilties of the characters to change the page itself the comic was posted on. The artstyle(s) are fun to watch.

You gotta read it for yourself, make your own opinion.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

African American? Those continents may not yet even exist then

Do you think they even care?

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Do you think they even care?

Looking at Witcher, I can say they don't.

 

[Terthna]

Several characters have been retconned as trans. Being aliens with equally strange biology, human notions of gender don't apply to them, so of course the tumblr crowd that took over the show after the original author stepped back declared them trans. Then there's the MC of the story, John Egbert, whose depression is stated to originate in that he's a transsexual in the closet and not, you know, having to deal with the death of his father and other unpleasant things.

Homestuck is best "enjoyed" if you read up to Cascade and then make up your own ending because the canon is abhorrend.

I remember being a big fan of Homestuck, up til Cascade, but everything changed after the hiatus. I think what really made it strike home for me was when that whole Caucasian/Peachy controversy happened; it made me realize how influential tumblr had become on what Andrew Hussie was writing. After that, I lost any investment I had once had in the series. I went back on occasion, to see if things improved; but while there were still glimpses of what originally drew me in, the writing quality just kept going downhill.

The so-called "epilogue" was just a final insult, but one that had little weight considering everything else that had happened. The only people who like what Homestuck became are all still on tumblr; and you know what? They're welcome to it; canon is overrated, and there's likely someone out there who wrote a far better story continuing on from Cascade, than what Andrew Hussie managed to produce for the "woke" tumblr crowd.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

You know, speaking of Tumblr, anybody think its responsible for most of the really freaky attempts at redesigns and even changing sexualities and genders?

 

[The Original Sixth]

That sounds incredibly vapid in general from your description, and an absolute chore to read. I have no idea why it got popular.

Because the world is full of sad, sad people.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

You know, speaking of Tumblr, anybody think its responsible for most of the really freaky attempts at redesigns and even changing sexualities and genders?

Pretty sure it a symptom of the same disease.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Pretty sure it a symptom of the same disease.

You sure it’s not the source? I think people in the industry thought Tumblrites were a viable buying base

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

You sure it’s not the source? I think people in the industry thought Tumblrites were a viable buying base

It could be either, or both.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

It could be either, or both.

Maybe both and other stuff IRL occurring

I think it may also be because weirdly enough, most of the customer base of say, comicbooks, aren’t online and constantly vocal about things

I mean I used to believe the opinions and viewership of fanart and fanfic makers was what indicated how popular something was.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

Maybe both and other stuff IRL occurring

I think it may also be because weirdly enough, most of the customer base of say, comicbooks, aren’t online and constantly vocal about things

I mean I used to believe the opinions and viewership of fanart and fanfic makers was what indicated how popular something was.

Well, it is popular. But they mistook what the popularity meant, it was popular with a different audience than the one they had or primed to buy their product.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Well, it is popular. But they mistook what the popularity meant, it was popular with a different audience than the one they had or primed to buy their product.

Well, TBF if you’re gonna make the effort to draw or write or cosplay for something, then odds are you maybe mistaken for a hardcore fan

Plus, todays entertainment circles have sorta made it “in” to be into “nerd culture”.....just that they probably like the adaptations more than the original stuff and like being seen with the stuff

 

[DarthOne]

That sounds incredibly vapid in general from your description, and an absolute chore to read. I have no idea why it got popular.

I know right? It puzzles the hell out of me.

 

[Cyan Saiyajin]

So one of the more interesting woke franchises, probably one of the non-binary parents of the whole thing and could be agreed to be woke almost from the outset is Wildstorm's The Authority. The first run is extremely liberal but really not about those themes and more about awesome super-heroic stuff. After that though the world of wildstorm became basically what every leftist thinks the world is, capitalism is theft and every rich person is evil, and traditional families and religion are just tools of manipulation at best, active sources of evil at worst.

This of course makes it entirely perfectly moral for the Authority to do whatever they want. Like the time the President turned out to be evil so of course our heroes have to take over the American government in a coup d'etat, overturn the constitution and make gun owning illegal. Because that chain of events makes sense for "reasons".

And everything they did was met with applause and were immensely popular. So much so that Jack Hawksmoor ended up elected.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

So one of the more interesting woke franchises, probably one of the non-binary parents of the whole thing and could be agreed to be woke almost from the outset is Wildstorm's The Authority. The first run is extremely liberal but really not about those themes and more about awesome super-heroic stuff. After that though the world of wildstorm became basically what every leftist thinks the world is, capitalism is theft and every rich person is evil, and traditional families and religion are just tools of manipulation at best, active sources of evil at worst.

This of course makes it entirely perfectly moral for the Authority to do whatever they want. Like the time the President turned out to be evil so of course our heroes have to take over the American government in a coup d'etat, overturn the constitution and make gun owning illegal. Because that change of events makes sense for "reasons".

And everything they did was met with applause and were immensely popular. So much so that Jack Hawksmoor ended up elected.

I remember reading it a few years ago, don’t remember traditional families being evil

Or gun bans

I recall there being mentions of allowing farmers to grow weed

Also a neonazi brit and a pedophile monster hillbilly

Honestly, yeah comicbook companies have been Left for decades

 

[Cyan Saiyajin]

I remember reading it a few years ago, don’t remember traditional families being evil

Or gun bans

I recall there being mentions of allowing farmers to grow weed

Also a neonazi brit and a pedophile monster hillbilly

Honestly, yeah comicbook companies have been Left for decades

They are three instances about family in the comic, one during the Six Billion Dollar Bastard arch where Swift is brainwashed into being a house wife. And then during the same arch there like this whole "religious mascot" character that blesses the fake team and talks about the sanctity of the family. And one of the later enemies was a family of interdimensional industrialists.

The gun thing also came up in the Six Billion Dollar Bastard arch, where Jenny Quantum comes back temporary and wishes guns away. And the gun ban comes from when the Authority takes over the US.

 

[DarthOne]

RoosterTeeth Accused of “QueerBaiting” By RWBY Fanatics who are Outraged over the newest chapter of the series, Some even sending death threats – NyanNet

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Live by the woke die by the woke.

 

[gral]

RoosterTeeth Accused of “QueerBaiting” By RWBY Fanatics who are Outraged over the newest chapter of the series, Some even sending death threats – NyanNet

nyannet.com

Live by the woke die by the woke.

Fans seeing romantic relationships where there is none, that has never happened before.

 

[DarthOne]

Fans seeing romantic relationships where there is none, that has never happened before.

You missed the point. The point is that RT started pandering to the woke left/tumblrtards and its backfiring on them. Look at just how many of the tweets say something about ‘diversity’ or ‘representation’ if you don’t believe me.