What if T-60 Power Armor in 40k?

[Marduk]

Mmmm that's wikipedia, not always the most reliable with military tech.
The Type 99 (an oerlikon clone) was mounted with 60 round drums with turret mounted weapons from what I can tell.
To my knowledge there isn't any pictures of smaller drums on the weapon.

Ok, but this 20 round one from a Swiss Oerlikon is real enough for you to buy it:

Oerlikon 20mm Drum Magazine - 20 rds

20 round drum magazine for the 20mm Oerlikon Anti-Aircraft Cannon. Features a windowed round counter in five round increments.

edelweissarms.com

 

[The Whispering Monk]

40k humans are generally considered to be pretty beefy compared to IRL humans, and considering a heavy bolter is the size of a person (so, like 80 kilograms if it was made of meat, let alone METAL) it seems Imperial guardsmen channel the power of the Emprah to carry em around.

To be fair...this is an example of a HERO level guard...a one in a trillion example.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Ok, but this 20 round one from a Swiss Oerlikon is real enough for you to buy it:

Oerlikon 20mm Drum Magazine - 20 rds

20 round drum magazine for the 20mm Oerlikon Anti-Aircraft Cannon. Features a windowed round counter in five round increments.

edelweissarms.com

Nice find! Maybe 15 round Japanese drums did exist then. ;D

To be fair...this is an example of a HERO level guard...a one in a trillion example.

Posted the picture to show how huge a heavy bolter is, rather than how easily carried they are. XD

 

[Scooby Doo]

Since Power Armors strength is based on the hydraulics couldn't we determine its strength limit based on the recreational jump competition?

McLaren got his suit wiped out trying to drop from the top of Trinity Tower, so the current record holder is still Petris with his Prydwen-to-ground drop. Remember, no leg armor mods allowed, just a clean jump with standard T-60 and you have to be able to walk away. No exceptions.

Frame weighs around over two tons (4,500) + T-60 Armor Pieces.

Edit: The Helmet weighs 650 lbs lol 🤣

 

[Marduk]

Since Power Armors strength is based on the hydraulics couldn't we determine its strength limit based on the recreational jump competition?

Frame weighs around over two tons (4,500) + T-60 Armor Pieces.

Edit: The Helmet weighs 650 lbs lol 🤣

Those weights are missing a . before the last sign.

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[Scooby Doo]

Those weights are missing a . before the last sign.

Fallout 4 armor and clothing

In Fallout 4, the wardrobe system allows the Sole Survivor to make up their own outfit from a variety of clothing and armor. The system is divided into nine slots and two layers : Base layer Body (pants, shirts, vault jumpsuits, etc.) Hat (baseball caps, combat armor helmet, fedoras, etc.) Eye...

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[ThatZenoGuy]

Since Power Armors strength is based on the hydraulics couldn't we determine its strength limit based on the recreational jump competition?

Frame weighs around over two tons (4,500) + T-60 Armor Pieces.

Edit: The Helmet weighs 650 lbs lol 🤣

T-60 doesn't use hydraulics, only T-51 does.
T-60, being an upgraded form of T-45, uses servo motors on the joints, which reduced the mobility/agility of the user.

 

[Scooby Doo]

T-60 doesn't use hydraulics, only T-51 does.
T-60, being an upgraded form of T-45, uses servo motors on the joints, which reduced the mobility/agility of the user.

That's been retconned. T-60 uses hydraulics

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

That's been retconned. T-60 uses hydraulics

I'm really not going to include anything from Fallout 4 onwards, Bethesda just gets plain silly, silly even for Fallout.

 

[Scooby Doo]

I'm really not going to include anything from Fallout 4 onwards, Bethesda just gets plain silly, silly even for Fallout.

Well that's fine but current canon is being used since we're talking about the T-60 so 😹

 

[Zachowon]

Based on what we can gather through lore. Catachans are abnormal physically and are not a standard soldier. And those among them able to carry heavy weapons singlehandedly are considered unique.

In real life a heavy weapons team carries a 50 in pieces. Not as a whole thong.
So most likely hoe they carry for the heavy weapons teams

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Well that's fine but current canon is being used since we're talking about the T-60 so 😹

I just don't think it's right that vs debates are solely determined by whoever buys the franchises and adds whatever they want.

I could win the lottery and buy 40k, then insist everyone in it is omnipotent and leave it at that.

It just doesn't make debates fun when a franchise is laughably inconsistent to the point of contradicting itself repeatedly from game to game. Fallout was never a super consistent universe but at least the individual weapons/armor were kept the same even as late as Fallout NV...Reeeee.

 

[Scooby Doo]

I just don't think it's right that vs debates are solely determined by whoever buys the franchises and adds whatever they want.

I could win the lottery and buy 40k, then insist everyone in it is omnipotent and leave it at that.

It just doesn't make debates fun when a franchise is laughably inconsistent to the point of contradicting itself repeatedly from game to game. Fallout was never a super consistent universe but at least the individual weapons/armor were kept the same even as late as Fallout NV...Reeeee.

Every entry in Fallout has been inconsistent and full of retcons even before Bethesda meddled in. We can't be biased or nitpicky, even New Vegas which is the crown jewel of the series has plenty of contradictions from making actual nukes weak as hell and making T-51 power armor have the worst feats in the franchise because they wanted to wank the NCR.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Every entry in Fallout has been inconsistent and full of retcons even before Bethesda meddled in. We can't be biased or nitpicky, even New Vegas which is the crown jewel of the series has plenty of contradictions from making actual nukes weak as hell and making T-51 power armor have the worst feats in the franchise because they wanted to wank the NCR.

T-51b was nerfed in FO3 as well, the 3D fallouts in general didn't have the 'gear based progression' of FO1-2, or at least in lesser amounts.
You can beat FO3/NV with some of the entry level gear pretty easily, doing that in FO1-2 is practically impossible.

 

[Scooby Doo]

T-51b was nerfed in FO3 as well, the 3D fallouts in general didn't have the 'gear based progression' of FO1-2, or at least in lesser amounts.
You can beat FO3/NV with some of the entry level gear pretty easily, doing that in FO1-2 is practically impossible.

It was most definitely nerfed, it added the only major battle in the setting that had Power Armor users lose to baseline infantry.

Where as previous installments made power armored users legitimate bipedal tanks.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

It was most definitely nerfed, it added the only major battle in the setting that had Power Armor users lose to baseline infantry.

Where as previous installments made power armored users legitimate bipedal tanks.

FO1 had power armor guys lose to minigun wielding supermutants, which fire bog-standard 5mm.

 

[Scooby Doo]

FO1 had power armor guys lose to minigun wielding supermutants, which fire bog-standard 5mm.

The Bog Standard 5mm is armor piercing, this is the same mini gun that's literally 60,000 rpm?

1. Fallout and Fallout 2 item description: "{1200}{}{Minigun}"
   "{1201}{}{A Rockwell CZ53 Personal Minigun. A multi-barrelled chaingun firing 5mm ammunition at over 60,000 RPM. Min ST: 7.}"
   (PRO ITEM.MSG (Fallout), PRO ITEM.MSG (Fallout 2))

That's basically a gauss gun lol


Not exactly as bad as losing to NCR Troopers

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

The Bog Standard 5mm is armor piercing, this is the same mini gun that's literally 60,000 rpm?

That's basically a gauss gun lol

Most common 5mm is jacketed hollowpoints, although there's some AP rounds laying around. And the burst-size of said minigun is some 40 rounds with each pull of the trigger, even if it's ROF is apparently a hilarious 60k rounds per minute.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Most common 5mm is jacketed hollowpoints, although there's some AP rounds laying around. And the burst-size of said minigun is some 40 rounds with each pull of the trigger, even if it's ROF is apparently a hilarious 60k rounds per minute.

So we really don't know what specialty ammo was the most common for the Supermutants regardless the difference honestly wouldn't matter much again when it's literally 1,000 rounds a second being fired.

Much greater volume of fire than even 15 NCR Troopers can lay down at once.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

So we really don't know what specialty ammo was the most common for the Supermutants regardless the difference honestly wouldn't matter much again when it's literally 1,000 rounds a second being fired.

Much greater volume of fire than even 15 NCR Troopers can lay down at once.

...Should 5mm AP pen T-51b?