What if T-60 Power Armor in 40k?

[Scooby Doo]

Cawl finds a lost forge world full of T-60 Power Armor and the facilities and resources to mass produce tens of billions upon tens of billions of suits a year for the next thousand years on this single planet.

How well does this armor change things?


Bonus: High End Power Armor scaling (Armor that can eat missile barrages and being on par with Sentry armor which can eat missile barrages and mininukes easily)

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

40k already has non-spacemarine power armor made from significantly greater materials and significantly better actuators.
T45d is made from bog-standard steel (well, specifically RHA of some form) with an aramid/kevlar bodysuit beneath it.
T60 is an upgraded variant which still appears to just be made of steel.

40k armor can be made from countless materials ranging from real-world ones, to plasteel, adamantium, ceramite, and various ballistic fibers.

Anyone rich or important enough to get a T-60 power armor clone either doesn't need one because they can throw their mooks at their foes, or already has armor comparable in ability.

 

[Scooby Doo]

40k already has non-spacemarine power armor made from significantly greater materials and significantly better actuators.
T45d is made from bog-standard steel (well, specifically RHA of some form) with an aramid/kevlar bodysuit beneath it.
T60 is an upgraded variant which still appears to just be made of steel.

40k armor can be made from countless materials ranging from real-world ones, to plasteel, adamantium, ceramite, and various ballistic fibers.

Anyone rich or important enough to get a T-60 power armor clone either doesn't need one because they can throw their mooks at their foes, or already has armor comparable in ability.

I'm pretty sure the T-45 and T-60 aren't made out of just bog standard steel other wise the ARC Jet in Fallout 4 would have melted Danse in his T-60 and Institute Rifles would blown right through him

Like wise the T-45 I doubt is just bog standard steel since FO4 says it offered substantial and excellent protection during the pre-war and even the lowest tiers of FO body armor like Vault TEC security was bullet proof but far from offering the best protection. (Bullet proof vest is considered moderate protection, requiring "heavy" weapons to make the armor negligible)

"The T-45 series was the first version of Power Armor ever employed on the battlefield by the U.S. military. Many suits remain active in the Wasteland today, and provide their wearers with substantial protection."

It's definitely better than just bog standard steel. Especially since the armor can withstand like a 14 something story fall while weighing two tons and still be mostly intact, I don't know of any common Imperium armor outside of Spacemarine armor that can match and surpass that.


Let alone any that could withstand mini nukes

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

I'm pretty sure the T-45 and T-60 aren't made out of just bog standard steel other wise the ARC Jet in Fallout 4 would have melted Danse in his T-60 and Institute Rifles would blown right through him

Like wise the T-45 I doubt is just bog standard steel since FO4 says it offered substantial and excellent protection during the pre-war and even the lowest tiers of FO body armor like Vault TEC security was bullet proof but far from offering the best protection.

ARC Jet in Fallout 4 is just an example of Bethesda being incompetent with the franchise, in any case silly things occur in all the games, such as fuzzy Elvis alien paintings from area 51, ghosts, and godzilla stomping on people for no apparent reason.
T-45 is bog-standard steel due to it's appearance, ability to rust (only Iron/steel does that), and its repair materials in FO4 consist of steel and...Steel.

T-60 apparently is somewhat upgraded and includes aluminum and plastic into the mix. Considering both of those materials are weaker than steel that's not a great sign, as the plates are never stated to be composites.

Should be noted this is the same game which officially makes T-51b power armor made only of steel for repair-work. So uhh...Great!

Also makes Enclave armor made out of steel, copper, and aluminum despite explicitly being made out of advanced ceramics.

 

[Marduk]

Welp, local IG regiments get upgraded to the "new" powered carapace and a lot of them upgrade into heavy infantry. Some elite Guard units, noble retainers, high end mercenaries, ranking officers and Rogue Trader troops already use various more or less cheap power armor types, it's just that such units tend to be rare and need rich sponsors to afford it, so most of IG
can only dream of it.
Perhaps Cawl will do some own upgrades to it, especially stuff like imperial compatible comms, but as long as it's more protective than flak, it's definitely worth using, for the extra strength and endurance alone.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

In hindsight it's going to be fun when a bunch are looted and you have mega-boyz running around zapping people with lightning coming from their overclocked fusion cores.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Well arguing durability aside I think we should also remember how easily maintained and customizable it is, even the worst model (T-45) can survive 200 years without maintenance and still offer excellent protection.

It could be easily upgraded it with additional plating too making each one a mini Terminator at relatively low cost.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Well arguing durability aside I think we should also remember how easily maintained and customizable it is, even the worst model (T-45) can survive 200 years without maintenance and still offer excellent protection.

It could be easily upgraded it with additional plating too making each one a mini Terminator at relatively low cost.

Well...Mini Terminators for around 30 minutes until the thing runs out of juice lmao.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Well...Mini Terminators for around 30 minutes until the thing runs out of juice lmao.

It canonically lasts for several hours with a heavily depleted battery.

The ones in the Wasteland are already depleted from 200 years passing by. Fresh Batteries should last much much longer.

 

[Zachowon]

I mean, it would be inferior to that of the Soace Marine and even Sister of Battle armor.
Even that of most inquisition members.
Could be useful for Guard, but too bulky to fit the Chineras ir Valkryes they use.
Would have to be on the ground on foot most of the time

Carapace would probably be the equivalent just nit as power armor.

It would only really make a difference against heretic and rebellions. Not actual foes woth the exception of Tyranids. Thatnwould only jeep a little

 

[Marduk]

I mean, it would be inferior to that of the Soace Marine and even Sister of Battle armor.
Even that of most inquisition members.
Could be useful for Guard, but too bulky to fit the Chineras ir Valkryes they use.
Would have to be on the ground on foot most of the time

Carapace would probably be the equivalent just nit as power armor.

It would only really make a difference against heretic and rebellions. Not actual foes woth the exception of Tyranids. Thatnwould only jeep a little

It would make a huge difference not with the armor, but with being power armor - all those relatively cheap, simple and effective that IG has heavy weapons teams to carry, like lascannons, multi-lases, heavy stubbers, heavy flamers, autocannons? Power armored troops can carry them on their own, letting the IG squads with this armor have the firepower of 3-4 heavy weapon teams at least, and use lascannons as heavy sniper rifles like some Astartes do.
Even if in terms of protection it's just like basic carapace, the sheer increase in potential firepower would put an end to the flashlight memes, now putting them in SoB territory firepower wise.

 

[Scooby Doo]

It would make a huge difference not with the armor, but with being power armor - all those relatively cheap, simple and effective that IG has heavy weapons teams to carry, like lascannons, multi-lases, heavy stubbers, heavy flamers, autocannons? Power armored troops can carry them on their own, letting the IG squads with this armor have the firepower of 3-4 heavy weapon teams at least, and use lascannons as heavy sniper rifles like some Astartes do.
Even if in terms of protection it's just like basic carapace, the sheer increase in potential firepower would put an end to the flashlight memes, now putting them in SoB territory firepower wise.

Imagine a Squad of IG with Lascannons as Primary Weapons 😂

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Imagine a Squad of IG with Lascannons as Primary Weapons 😂

No Commissar would be safe!

 

[Zachowon]

It would make a huge difference not with the armor, but with being power armor - all those relatively cheap, simple and effective that IG has heavy weapons teams to carry, like lascannons, multi-lases, heavy stubbers, heavy flamers, autocannons? Power armored troops can carry them on their own, letting the IG squads with this armor have the firepower of 3-4 heavy weapon teams at least, and use lascannons as heavy sniper rifles like some Astartes do.
Even if in terms of protection it's just like basic carapace, the sheer increase in potential firepower would put an end to the flashlight memes, now putting them in SoB territory firepower wise.

Would it make them to Asatrtes level of strength? Ogryn?

 

[Scooby Doo]

Would it make them to Asatrtes level of strength? Ogryn?

Nah it just enhanced ones base strength many times over.

The Vault Dweller: "{137}{}{It looks like it would be cumbersome to wear.}"
Darrel: "{147}{}{Cumbersome? Not in the least. The sacred armor is so finely constructed to such exacting specifications that it feels like an extension of the blessed one's own body. It increases one's strength many times over and helps you resist the effects of radiation so that you may more effectively serve the brotherhood. I would feel diminished without my holy armor.}"

Which is still good to wield heavy weapons (Even a 3x multiplier would be great) that would ordinarily be possible like full sized bolters.

 

[Marduk]

Would it make them to Asatrtes level of strength? Ogryn?

Probably SoB level at minimum. In Fallout power armored people can use a .50 cal or a minigun like a LMG, so it would translate to similar IG heavy weapons.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

FO1-2's T-51b boosted your strength by 3 points.

Using New Vegas' vita-tester for comparison gets us these results...

Assuming a normal strength person with 5 Strength, it turns them into a "Circus Strongman" level of strength.

A "Beach Bully", a real strong dude who isn't quite circus freak levels of strong, gets boosted up to Hercules bigger cousin lmao.

 

[Zachowon]

It would basically make everyone Ogryns

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

It would basically make everyone Ogryns

IIRC Ogryns can lift light armored vehicles and some pretty crazy feats.
Even 10 strength characters aren't that strong as far as I am aware of.

 

[Zachowon]

That is right.
So maybe it won't allow then to carry heavy weapons in 40k