What country do you think would be most likely to turn on the US

[RenegadeInterrupt]

Sorry if this is in the wrong place, but it's a pretty straightforward question.. what country would be most likely to turn on the US and defect to China/Russia? My vote is Egypt, but I'm not so sure.

 

[PsihoKekec]

Egypt has it too good playing the fence to go full opposition to the USA as, USA is paying for the military to keep peace with Israel and since their leadership is from military, they loathe to cut that gravy train, not to mention that they know how vulnerable they are to internal unrest, USA would have no problem triggering a bloody civil war in the country, if Egypt leadership went too far.
State Department is willing to give Egypt a lot more slack, compared to other countries, due to need to keep Israel safe, but that only goes so far.

 

[RenegadeInterrupt]

Egypt has it too good playing the fence to go full opposition to the USA as, USA is paying for the military to keep peace with Israel and since their leadership is from military, they loathe to cut that gravy train, not to mention that they know how vulnerable they are to internal unrest, USA would have no problem triggering a bloody civil war in the country, if Egypt leadership went too far.
State Department is willing to give Egypt a lot more slack, compared to other countries, due to need to keep Israel safe, but that only goes so far.

Only reason I said Egypt is I think Turkey and NATO are too dependent on one another for Turkey to go full oppo. I started this thread because I'm not so sure anyone would realistically go awol, as the lines are too written in stone to be crossed imo. I guess a better question is "which of USA's allies are most likely to go it alone" or not openly side with the USA against Russia/China

 

[Agent23]

France, them Germany.

 

[King Krávoka]

The United States of America

 

[RenegadeInterrupt]

Surprised no one has jokingly said "Ukraine" yet

 

[PsihoKekec]

Ukraine is fully controlled by State Department and has strong regime protection apparatus that is almost untouched by war.

Germany is fully vassalised, they were allowed an illusion of independence since the end of Cold War, but they have no strength to assert their national sovereignty, half a century of beating the national identity out of them (except rooting for the national football team) will do that.

France might do it if USA goes overboard with fucking them over, but not particularly likely.

 

[Blasterbot]

Surprised no one has jokingly said "Ukraine" yet

I fully expect them to go the route that most other times we armed shithole countries went. they just will likely not team up with Russia and china.

as for my vote? Canada. Trudeau and their lefties get hard over china's policies and they have an even more cucked and corrupt right than we do.

 

[ATP]

France, them Germany.

Not possible,becouse both are soviet allies.They could not turn on USA,becouse they did so long ago.

But,if our total opposition win election in 2023,it would be Poland.

Fun thing - USA Embassy is helping total opposition against ruling PIS,who did everytching and more for USA.
They want help Moscov,as all good Democrats.And they are doing that for giving Poland to them.....

Another possibilities - Turkey and Izrael.
First could choose China to become local superpower,second could betray USA,becouse stupid americans would pay them no matter what Izrael would do.

 

[Rocinante]

Probably the US.

 

[Cherico]

My money is on turkey they have every ability to play regional hedgemon because their no offense surrounded by idiots. But also have the potential to get an ego and get stomped for it.

 

[Free-Stater 101]

Turkey probably, the Sultan is trying to make his county an Islamist cess pit and arguably has already turned against the U.S. only staying in NATO because their is no way to eject a country from the alliance.

Surprised no one has jokingly said "Ukraine" yet

That isn't happening unless Russia wins total victory in Ukraine establishing a puppet goverment any other scenario only leads to Ukraine joining NATO or forming a separate pact with the U.S. if the rest of the members refuse to sign too many Ukrainians have died and if they win this war and don't get under someone else's nuclear umbrella in anywhere between 10-20 years Russia will lick their wounds and go for round 2.

 

[RenegadeInterrupt]

Turkey probably, the Sultan is trying to make his county an Islamist cess pit and arguably has already turned against the U.S. only staying in NATO because their is no way to eject a country from the alliance.

Still, Turkey joined NATO for a specific purpose and I doubt they'd be willing to alienate themselves of NATO/The West any time soon. Turkey is indispensable to NATO and as a result, NATO will continue catering to their demands, which is why I don't think Sweden will be joining the alliance anytime soon, and of course Turkey will return the favor to NATO, continuing to outright oppose Russia on many issues

 

[Blasterbot]

Still, Turkey joined NATO for a specific purpose and I doubt they'd be willing to alienate themselves of NATO/The West any time soon. Turkey is indispensable to NATO and as a result, NATO will continue catering to their demands, which is why I don't think Sweden will be joining the alliance anytime soon, and of course Turkey will return the favor to NATO, continuing to outright oppose Russia on many issues

nah. they would if they thought they would benefit from it. not actually benefit from it. think they would. NATO is held together by the US's appearance of strength if that falters too much? nobody will stick around.