I can't get over people reacting this way to the truth about Lincoln, especially in a thread about hot takes on history. He was something of a tyrant himself in that he very much violated the Constitution when it came to free speech and freedom of the press. Unlike Trump, he actually did have media outlets shut down and actually did have people arrested for saying things he didn't like. I also seem to recall that he also had people held without charge or trail, which is exactly the thing people were complaining about Bush doing post 9/11, except that Lincoln actually did it to American citizens. I'm kind of wondering if people are getting caught up in the conflation that pointing this stuff out makes them somehow pro-Confederacy or supporters of the "Lost Cause" myth, because I'm sure not. It's just worth noting that the Civil War was not actually about freeing the slaves, and only became that after the war had been going for a while, and that the actual history has been essentially sanitized for a long time. This is why I tend to have mixed feelings about the Civil War. In some ways, I feel like it would have been better to cut the southern states loose and let them do their own thing, even if it was based on horrible reasoning. Wouldn't have been very good for black people, of course. Also I kind of feel like the asshattery the southern states got up to tends to get ignored to much, like when it came to new states being formed and kidnapping freedmen from northern states. I kind of wonder if the CSA would have collapsed eventually, and if that would have happened in time for WWI.