cawest
Active member
i was thinking about setting up shop near Olivetti and using a the union with more cargo than mech bays.. and you have a point about LCAF wanting every DHS they can get their hands on.
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i was thinking about setting up shop near Olivetti and using a the union with more cargo than mech bays.. and you have a point about LCAF wanting every DHS they can get their hands on.
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
I mean it's a good idea when DHS has entered production at other locations but by that point it will have occured to a lot of other companies as well not to mention the LCAF itself
Bear Ribs
Well-known member
The issue with any kind of fast-cash scheme is that:
A: The most valuable thing available on Catachan is lostech weapons and goods.
B: The Archon almost certainly wants all of that for the LCAF for some time to come and won't look favorably on selling them to anybody else.
So a source of ready cash that doesn't involve lostech is probably importing a few lumbermechs and harvesting Argent Maple, and then importing more lumbermechs to replace the ones that were eaten by the wildlife trying to harvest Argent Maple, and then... never mind that's a bad idea.
A: The most valuable thing available on Catachan is lostech weapons and goods.
B: The Archon almost certainly wants all of that for the LCAF for some time to come and won't look favorably on selling them to anybody else.
So a source of ready cash that doesn't involve lostech is probably importing a few lumbermechs and harvesting Argent Maple, and then importing more lumbermechs to replace the ones that were eaten by the wildlife trying to harvest Argent Maple, and then... never mind that's a bad idea.
I wonder if they harvest the Argent Maples with some sort of VTOL. Giant chopper with some sort of grapple and chainsaw combo.
Brogatar
Well-known member
What model is that?Assault weight Artillery mech you say?
I stand with the social generals, they are right thinking, well educated gentlemen of culture and dignity.
Also, the hellcat is uglier than Jabba the Hutt. And less aerodynamic.
Kilvanya
Well-known member
Not a canon model, art is done by mattPlog, though I did make a mockup of it for BT.
Wojtek Heavy Artillery Mech:
Wojtek WJK-1
Mixed (Base IS)
100 tons
BV: 1,703
Cost: 10,377,000 C-bills
Movement: 3/5
Engine: 300
Heat Sinks: 15 [30]
Cockpit: Command Console
Gyro: Standard Gyro
Internal: 152
Armor: 304/307
Internal Armor
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Center Torso 31 46
Center Torso (rear) 15
Right Torso 21 32
Right Torso (rear) 10
Left Torso 21 32
Left Torso (rear) 10
Right Arm 17 33
Left Arm 17 33
Right Leg 21 42
Left Leg 21 42
Weapon Loc Heat
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Thumper RT/RA 5
Thumper LT/LA 5
ER Medium Laser LA 5
ER Medium Laser LA 5
ER Medium Laser RA 5
ER Medium Laser RA 5
Ammo Loc Shots
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Thumper Ammo CT 20
Thumper Ammo RL 20
Thumper Ammo LL 20
Equipment Loc
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Standard None
Standard None
Standard None
Targeting Computer HDNot seeing much point to an artillery mech that can't jump. To really justify being a mech not a vehicle even the Helepolis is a bit of a slug. It can get up some cliffs and over some ravines an SPG can't and you can put it in an orbital drop pod, but it's not going to keep pace with anything but an assault mech in strategic ground movement.
Even in the succession wars you can get a Thumper to 4/6/4 which will at least let it keep pace with Partisans on roads or your standard line of battle mechs off-road. The easiest way to do this is to swap out the AC-20 on a Victor, which shouldn't be an assault mech, but is for no good reason so there's your assault mech artillery. Someone's probably going to try to copy the Harquebusier's all terrain artillery this way.
With the tech Catachan has you can do 5/8/5 easy. Well, easy as balancing the jumpjets on something with a quarter of its mass tied up in a gun in one arm. You need an XL300, which they've got, DHS, which they've got, and probably want endosteel to fit reasonably threatening secondary weapons, which they've got. And getting an overhead track built that can handle a 60 ton mech in Catachan gravity. That's going to be a lot less of a stretch than one for a 95 ton Banshee. It's only 9% more than the Hoplite line rather than 73% more.
Speaker4thesilent
Crazed Deplorable
It isn't as mobile as a Helepolis, but it's still more mobile than even a tracked vehicle because it is less prone to motive system damage. If nothing else, the fact that it carries a pair of artillery pieces is some recommendation due to concentration of fire. Instead of one platform getting you one gun, one platform gets you two guns. That said, it does seem to be losing some of the benefits of the Helepolis. I'd have to crack open MML to see if you can make an XLFE fit with a Thumper. I know it doesn't fit with a Sniper.
gral
Well-known member
IIRC, it fits, barely(Thumper takes 15 slots, from what I remember). A single arm has 8 slots(9 without a hand, 10 without lower arm actuators), so at worst, you could take 7 slots from the side torso and have 2 slots remaining.
Speaker4thesilent
Crazed Deplorable
Don't even need the compact gyro, but you can either go to 4/6 or you can have jump jets and a secondary armament. Not both.
The ability to plant your arty in places that aren't pre-plotted by defending artillery is an AMAZING thing. 
bobnik
Memetic Warfare Specialist
One supposes the short term counter is a dedicated ASF unit, or Kanga tanks if you have any. Another might be a vertically mobile unit with TAG, and coppertop rounds in your arty.The ability to plant your arty in places that aren't pre-plotted by defending artillery is an AMAZING thing.
Then they gotta contend with the escorts and get through the Catachan air unit. Those flying blenders they have are fucking scary.
bobnik
Memetic Warfare Specialist
But see that's the point. If the flying blenders are covering the arty they're not covering the main force, and you can strike there. Do something to gain the initiative. Make them react to you, and harsh up their plans.
They have the numbers to cover both of course. Focus on the arty defenders and you leave you entire force wide open to the rest of their ASF. Keep in mind move and counter move.