Warbirds Thread

ShadowArxxy

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The Rafale is sure a contender, but there is something... majestic about the Mirage 4000, that the Rafale doesn't have.

The Mirage 4000 is actually substantially bigger in all dimensions than the Rafale, and has hints of the brutal elegance of the Eagle in her relatively simple and direct lines, as opposed to the much more complex aerodynamic sculpting of the Rafale.
 

PsihoKekec

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When I was a kid I had a little aircraft booklets and Mirage 4000 was in it, years later when I had money to buy more serious publication I sought information about it, but there was zero, it was only with the advent of the internet that I learned that it was cancelled soon after those booklets were printed.

Those booklets were nice but, some information in them was wrong, like the claim that Hawker Typhoon carried 8 cannons. Also the picture of Mil-24 was that of A variant, imagine my surprise when I learned that the vast majority look very differently.
 

Vargas Fan

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The Mirage 4000 is actually substantially bigger in all dimensions than the Rafale, and has hints of the brutal elegance of the Eagle in her relatively simple and direct lines, as opposed to the much more complex aerodynamic sculpting of the Rafale.

I remember seeing a picture of the Mirage 4000 flying in formation with two Mirage 2000 which showed the relative size difference, lets see if I can find it. Ah, here it is...

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Aaron Fox

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The likely evolution of aircraft, a 103 (EDIT) 118 metric tons (fully loaded with all the trimmings, i.e. the external ordinance racks) aircraft capable of 1,843kph (or ~ Mach 1.49) thanks to its hydrogen-fueled, thrust-vector capable "hyper fan" engines and a magneto-hydrodynamic turbine. Has a crew of two and a sophisticated computer array and its integrated armament consists of a 30mm ETC autocannon and two laser AMS systems. It has integrated stealth due to the materials used in its skin and has some IR stealth capability.

It has a 200+ ton tactical bomber companion as well (which doesn't have an image yet). ;)
 
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PsihoKekec

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That thing must have head really poor visibility by late WWII standards. Is the right wing damaged in the first picture?
 

Aaron Fox

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Apparently so - the planes is a 'bit' rouged. About the visibility - yes, is bad, but is not a dogfighter.
In comparison to the others? Not that bad. Remember, most fighters in this period weren't using bubble canopies but something similar to this. You can count the number of fighters with a bubble canopy with two hands and still have some leftover (from my recollection) at most... and most of them are American.
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What are those land based B-25B Mitchell Bombers doing on board the USS Hornet, an aircraft carrier, of all things?!?!

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And they're taking off! 😲


They stripped those planes of pretty much everything to get them to fly off that deck mind you.
 

PsihoKekec

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You can count the number of fighters with a bubble canopy with two hands and still have some leftover (from my recollection) at most... and most of them are American.
At that point in war, most fighters in production had bubble or two piece cannopy.
 

Aaron Fox

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At that point in war, most fighters in production had bubble or two piece cannopy.
Only for the Americans (and the Spitfires), most nations during that point of the war didn't fit their aircraft with bubble canopies. Two-piece canopies were more common but not replacing the more 'conventional' canopy types, at least from what I can tell.

It should be also be noted that this aircraft was designed to be an interceptor with some ground strike capability (it was planned to have a bomb bay for a handful of 1,000kg bombs from my recollection). It is also one of the first aircraft with a combat-capable ejection seat due to the engine configuration.
 

Zachowon

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Only for the Americans (and the Spitfires), most nations during that point of the war didn't fit their aircraft with bubble canopies. Two-piece canopies were more common but not replacing the more 'conventional' canopy types, at least from what I can tell.

It should be also be noted that this aircraft was designed to be an interceptor with some ground strike capability (it was planned to have a bomb bay for a handful of 1,000kg bombs from my recollection). It is also one of the first aircraft with a combat-capable ejection seat due to the engine configuration.
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