USAF Furtherly Lowering Their Standards

[Bacle]

You do know NSC is not active Duty military right?
And that Active Duty military has a lot stricter rules to follow.

No, I did not know NSC is not 'active duty', and my impression was the officer in question was active duty as part of his work with the NSC.

I should point out that regs WILL stop shit from happening. Especially ones put in place to prevent such a thing. IG exists, and is completely outside the normal chain of command. IG even has their own civilian IG if needed, or vice versa. Onealso has the UCMJ to use as their defense.

I haven't seen anything that is stopping the woke and Marxist BS that they are trying to push.

I know the 'extremism standdown' resulted in enlisted asking questions the new regime does not like, but beyond that, hasn't seemed like the regs are actually doing anything to hinder the Left.

YOU SHOULD READ UP on rules and regulations of the US Military beforegoing on these rants.

Oh, I understand the spirit of them, if not the line by line. I may not know it in the detail you do, but I understand the ideal state the USMJ is supposed to exist in.

I'm not talking about an ideal state, however; I am talking about the reality of the political landscape in this nation and how that relates to what the military has been doing since Biden stole his way into office.

The military has never truly been apolitical; it's just that the ability to speak about 'politics' and not get in trouble has been reserved for officers of sufficient rank and station who do it behind closed doors in DC or couch it in seemingly apolitical language.

After all, policymakers must engage in politics, and the head honcho's are the ones who make policy.

 

[Zachowon]

No, I did not know NSC is not 'active duty', and my impression was the officer in question was active duty as part of his work with the NSC.

I haven't seen anything that is stopping the woke and Marxist BS that they are trying to push.

I know the 'extremism standdown' resulted in enlisted asking questions the new regime does not like, but beyond that, hasn't seemed like the regs are actually doing anything to hinder the Left.

Oh, I understand the spirit of them, if not the line by line. I may not know it in the detail you do, but I understand the ideal state the USMJ is supposed to exist in.

I'm not talking about an ideal state, however; I am talking about the reality of the political landscape in this nation and how that relates to what the military has been doing since Biden stole his way into office.

The military has never truly been apolitical; it's just that the ability to speak about 'politics' and not get in trouble has been reserved for officers of sufficient rank and station who do it behind closed doors in DC or couch it in seemingly apolitical language.

After all, policymakers must engage in politics, and the head honcho's are the ones who make policy.

In the end.

Stop fucking worrying about it until we get the details.

Read line by line the UCMJ and DoD and DA policies and a lot of the time one of them is broken. If one is NOT IG is almost always invovled

 

[Bacle]

In the end.

Stop fucking worrying about it until we get the details.

Read line by line the UCMJ and DoD and DA policies and a lot of the time one of them is broken. If one is NOT IG is almost always invovled

Ok, here's an article with more details.

Space Force officer relieved of post after denouncing Marxist ideology and critical race theory in military: Report

A commander in the United States Space Force was apparently relieved from his post after appearing on a podcast to promote his book, which asserts a neo-Marxist agenda is transforming military culture and policy.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Edit: As you can see, the man was trying to warning about how the military is not as apolitical as is used to be, and did not just spring this book on people out of the blue, either.

 

[Zachowon]

Ok, here's an article with more details.

Space Force officer relieved of post after denouncing Marxist ideology and critical race theory in military: Report

A commander in the United States Space Force was apparently relieved from his post after appearing on a podcast to promote his book, which asserts a neo-Marxist agenda is transforming military culture and policy.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Edit: As you can see, the man was trying to warning about how the military is not as apolitical as is used to be, and did not just spring this book on people out of the blue, either.

He still proke DoD policies....

 

[Bacle]

He still proke DoD policies....

Which ones, because from what that article says and what the officer is claiming, the 'engaging in politics' bit seems to be an invention of the people who want to get rid of him.

He went through the proper channels for his book it seems, and had no issues related to this till he went on that podcast to talk about his book and critized what some of the DoD heads have been doing with the 'extremism standdown' and 'diversity training'.

It very much seems like if he broke any rules, it would be about critizing a superior in public, not for engaging in 'political' issues.

 

[Zachowon]

Which ones, because from what that article says and what the officer is claiming, the 'engaging in politics' bit seems to be an invention of the people who want to get rid of him.

He went through the proper channels for his book it seems, and had no issues related to this till he went on that podcast to talk about his book and critized what some of the DoD heads have been doing with the 'extremism standdown' and 'diversity training'.

It very much seems like if he broke any rules, it would be about critizing a superior in public, not for engaging in 'political' issues.

I literally linked it...
But so... no one actually has opinions changed by the extremismstanddown, or diversity traning

 

[Bacle]

I literally linked it...
But so... no one actually has opinions changed by the extremismstanddown, or diversity traning

Yes, I saw what you linked, and I saw what was said in the article.

It still seems like he was not engaged in anything actually political, and his actions are being considered political because they are call out the way the military has allowed itself to go woke.

 

[Zachowon]

Yes, I saw what you linked, and I saw what was said in the article.

It still seems like he was not engaged in anything actually political, and his actions are being considered political because they are call out the way the military has allowed itself to go woke.

No...
you are not aloud tospeak politically at all especially on podcasts, phone calls etc. They take that shit seriously....

 

[Bacle]

No...
you are not aloud tospeak politically at all especially on podcasts, phone calls etc. They take that shit seriously....

Per that article, he didn't speak politically on that, unless you mean that he critizied Critical Race Theory and the assertions by DoD highers ups as him being 'political'.

And he won't be without allies for long; his story is blowing up all over Twitter:


Whatever happens to him, it won't be able to be hidden from the public now.

 

[Zachowon]

Per that article, he didn't speak politically on that, unless you mean that he critizied Critical Race Theory and the assertions by DoD highers ups as him being 'political'.

And he won't be without allies for long; his story is blowing up all over Twitter:


Whatever happens to him, it won't be able to be hidden from the public now.

He was an ACTIVE DUTY OFFICER who went onto a podcast speaking about his suprirors, while also involving politics.
Because, Marxist ideas are a political issue

 

[Bacle]

He was an ACTIVE DUTY OFFICER who went onto a podcast speaking about his suprirors, while also involving politics.
Because, Marxist ideas are a political issue

Oh, so the military consider Marxism a 'political' issue now, that explains a lot.

 

[Zachowon]

Oh, so the military consider Marxism a 'political' issue now, that explains a lot.

It is? Is it not?
The military considers anything political related. Economic or not, political for a reaosn.
For instance. I cant go and say I am pro marxist at the top of my lungs and NOT expect to get his with a UCMJ.
It is also highly unlikely at low levels in the Army that if I say fuck Marxists anything will happen. But it still could because it is considered a political thing

 

[Bacle]

It is? Is it not?
The military considers anything political related. Economic or not, political for a reaosn.
For instance. I cant go and say I am pro marxist at the top of my lungs and NOT expect to get his with a UCMJ.
It is also highly unlikely at low levels in the Army that if I say fuck Marxists anything will happen. But it still could because it is considered a political thing

That the US military now considers Marxism a legit political theory for this sort of thing does not bode well for our nation.

 

[Zachowon]

That the US military now considers Marxism a legit political theory for this sort of thing does not bode well for our nation.

...
You...you do know it considers communism a legit protocol theory as well right?
Both are reasons that ome can be put under investigation by CI, and can prevent someone from getting a clearance.
The military does not discriminat based on anything except medical and mental issues.

Political issues are not something.

 

[Bacle]

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You...you do know it considers communism a legit protocol theory as well right?

No, and the fact the US military grants that legitimacy to Marxist/communist theory scares me.

It is one thing to try to understand and examine it to better understand our enemies.

It's wholly another to grant it the legitimacy of being able to be considered legit 'political discussion' for something like this.

No wonder the Left has been winning so much, if they have already accomplished this.

 

[Zachowon]

No, and the fact the US military grants that legitimacy to Marxist/communist theory scares me.

It is one thing to try to understand and examine it to better understand our enemies.

It's wholly another to grant it the legitimacy of being able to be considered legit 'political discussion' for something like this.

No wonder the Left has been winning so much, if they have already accomplished this.

We have socialist people in government.

Also, the likely hopd of a Marxist or Commie being in the mikitary is very small.
Socialists sure, but the other two minor

 

[BlackDragon98]

Unfortunately @Zachowon, what @Bacle has been saying is true.

'Disturbing and reckless': Retired brass spread election lie in attack on Biden, Democrats - POLITICO

120 retired officers.

and they got jumped on almost immediately by both current and former military officers of the US Military.

When push comes to shove, there will be a helluva civil war. Military and police split down the middle.

 

[Zachowon]

Unfortunately @Zachowon, what @Bacle has been saying is true.

'Disturbing and reckless': Retired brass spread election lie in attack on Biden, Democrats - POLITICO

120 retired officers.

and they got jumped on almost immediately by both current and former military officers of the US Military.

When push comes to shove, there will be a helluva civil war. Military and police split down the middle.

It is impossible to have a military full of unbiased people.

What I am saying is, if lower enlisted, junior officers, and officers who care would actually report these damn things it would change.

This isn't the first time the military has had issues with its chain.

It will fix itself though.

 

[Terthna]

It is impossible to have a military full of unbiased people.

What I am saying is, if lower enlisted, junior officers, and officers who care would actually report these damn things it would change.

This isn't the first time the military has had issues with its chain.

It will fix itself though.

Here's hoping your faith isn't misplaced; though I'm not convinced.

 

[PsihoKekec]

It is impossible to have a military full of unbiased people.

That's why the leadership is reinforcing Democratic bias. In the first months of the current administration there were tons of military leftards publicly chearleading for the Democrats on the social media and none got punished, while on the other hand guys are getting grilled by the inquisition for vaguely conservative stuff they wrote on some obscure forums years ago.

It will fix itself though.

If by that you mean that the Army will be subservient directly to the party, yeah probably.