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Husky_Khan

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I was a bit worried when Trump hired whoever this uhhh lady... I think so... is as one of his campaigns press people but I'll admit she seems really passionate about Trump's agenda and is doing an amazing job presenting it to the American people so they can decide.



- Trump will carry out the largest deportation operation in history!
- Ask for the death sentence for anyone convicted of human trafficking.
- Close the Department of Education and return all education standards to the States to decide.
- Return of School Prayer
- Criminalize Race Based Advantage Programs
- End the Affordable Care Act
- Ban gender affirming care for adults and children and ban any federal dollars for going to gender affirming care
- Propose a constitutional amendment to limit terms for Congress
- Deploy the Department of Justice to investigate the Biden Crime Family
- He will pardon all of the J6 Protestors and create a task force to investigate anyone to charged, arrested, or imprisoned them
- Increase penalties for underaged criminal offenders
- Strengthen Immunity for Police Officers (Uh oh this might trigger folks)
- Deploy the National Guard to patrol woke cities.
- Reassess US involvement in NATO and says every European country must pay the United States for protection... lulz
- Restore the "Wonderful" Travel Ban for Muslims
- HE WILL BUILD FREEDOM CITIES
- He will kill all e-vehicles and e-vehicle legislation... and see to replacing that with the DEVELOPMENT OF A FLYING CAR? :alien:
- Remove all limits on American natural gas exports.
- Drill baby drill for oil domestically.
- Tariffs of up to 60% on Chinese imports!
- Extend 2017 Tax Cuts Dropping Corporate Tax Rate from 21% to 15%.
- Push Congress to pass legislation for every American to have the right to conceal carry.
- Revoke any gun restrictions that seeks to inhibit a person owning a gun that's been passed recently.
- He Will Demand Europe Pay back all the money USA gave to Ukraine and use that money to recruit for the US Military.
- Take billions from private University endowments by taxing, fining and suing Universities, specifically Harvard, and create the AMERICAN ACADEMY, a free online college FREE OF WOKENESS that Employers will be forced to recognize as a Bachelors Degree equivalent.

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IndyFront

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That part is quite true. Trump is merely a symptom of a cause, and that cause is the alienation of certain classes from the neoliberal agenda of the US elites that rose after the fall of the USSR.

From the left, it was moving from outright socialism to socialism-adjacent topics. The so called Watermelon Politics of communists infiltrating and subverting minority racialist groups, environmental groups, Palestinian groups, feminists, LGBT activism and many others.
From the right, it was the rise of the Neocons and their obsession with foreign wars as well as their dedication to just obstructing Liberal policies for a decade or two rather than pushing conservative policies.

Trump supporters basically think the Republican Party can't be trusted and that the so called New Left is an increasingly larger threat to them. And after the failure of the social system post the 60s, lack the restraint or means to affect politics themselves. So the natural result is....well, supporting radicals who promise to bring it all down.
Trump supporters aren't a hivemind any more than liberals are, in fact I bet there are quite a few liberals who previously voted for Obama but couldn't tolerate the Democrats Neoliberalism and House Clinton any longer, and felt like they've been pushed to support Trump not out of a particular "like" for Trump but out of desperation because they see how hopelessly corrupt the Democrats have become and essentially view Trump as nothing more than controlled opposition and a protest vote (against the De-Facto Ruling Party).
 

SoliFortissimi

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There was definitely a significantly large demographic that voted blue in every election except 2016 purely to spite Clinton for looking down on them. And because I fancy nobody really thought he could win. Trump won because of a protest vote from the northernmost Blue states.

More the fool you.
If you think you can defy destiny, be my guest.
 

Abhorsen

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Trump supporters aren't a hivemind any more than liberals are, in fact I bet there are quite a few liberals who previously voted for Obama but couldn't tolerate the Democrats Neoliberalism and House Clinton any longer, and felt like they've been pushed to support Trump not out of a particular "like" for Trump but out of desperation because they see how hopelessly corrupt the Democrats have become and essentially view Trump as nothing more than controlled opposition and a protest vote (against the De-Facto Ruling Party).
Sorta describes me, but replace liberal stuff with the corresponding libertarian stuff. Usually, I'd vote for the libertarian party, as it gets ballot access. But instead, I find that the criminalization of politics is so bad I need to vote Trump.


Also, and this is huge news, the R's are finally using winning tactics. Huge credit to Scott Pressler here for pushing for this, but Lara Trump has publicly endorsed using legal ballot harvesting instead of deciding to lose by voting on the same day.



Obviously, BS like this shouldn't exist, but until it's banned, it's giving the Dem's a free advantage.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
Can't say I care much for "prayer back in schools." Public schools shouldn't play favorites. Also, I can't help but wonder about these "freedom cities" and where exactly they will be built.
 

Blasterbot

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Can't say I care much for "prayer back in schools." Public schools shouldn't play favorites. Also, I can't help but wonder about these "freedom cities" and where exactly they will be built.
at a guess it means they will stop firing random people who pray on school grounds like that coach who prayed at a football game. worst case scenario they have a 5 minute block at the start of the day for prayer that other kids can just sit silently during. not a big deal.
 
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Abhorsen

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worst case scenario they have a 5 minute block at the start of the day for prayer thot other kids can just sit silently during. not a big deal.
That's, IMO, a very bad scenario for America specifically. America works on assimilating it's many people, with many religions. Attacking that assimilation is the worst thing you can do. It accomplishes exactly what leftists do with diversity bullshit, regardless of intention. Also, it would forfeit the Republican's high ground on keeping politics out of school.

Still, having said that? I'm not worried at all about it, even with the Supreme Court. It's simply not going to actually be done. It's a classic thing republicans just add to their talking points then never do anything about.

Freedom cities are a much worse idea IMO. We don't want government construction of cities, that's socialism.

The thing that sold me on this? Taxing universities. This is a huge win. It directly attacks the left's cultural center.
 

ShieldWife

Marchioness

Your post is partly correct, the left said that Trump’s presidency would be the end of the world and it wasn’t so bad at all. That should be an indicator that leftist histrionics over Trump should be ridiculed rather than regarded seriously.

Where you go wrong is saying that Jan 6th was some kind of attempt to overthrow the government/democracy rather than a riot or an orchestrated Reichstag Fire event.

Also, Trump and his movement aren’t radical by any means. In large part, the policies that brought Trump to victory (and infamy) are ideas that most Americans agree on - like ending war and ending illegal immigration - that the nation’s elites don’t want the American people to have any say in. Trump isn’t hated for being an extremist, he is hated for his moderation in a nation ruled by extremists.
 

SoliFortissimi

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What destiny?
Our defeat. Theirs too, of course, and theirs will come before ours.
Do you actually believe that the January 6th Riot was an attempt to overthrow the Republic?
Well, the rioters and Trump seemed to think it was. I personally think there was no plan for what to do after they entered the building....but that defiance of government authority on such a scale cannot be let off.
 

LordsFire

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Well, the rioters and Trump seemed to think it was. I personally think there was no plan for what to do after they entered the building....but that defiance of government authority on such a scale cannot be let off.
It was a small riot, including breaking and entering for some offenders. Some misdemeanor charges are appropriate, and if accusations of assault and battery are actually substantiated, more serious charges for them.

What it was not was an attempted violent coup or insurrection, and it's not like it was even remotely close.

Do you know how to tell when American Conservatives are actually attempting such a thing?
 

Cherico

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It was a small riot, including breaking and entering for some offenders. Some misdemeanor charges are appropriate, and if accusations of assault and battery are actually substantiated, more serious charges for them.

What it was not was an attempted violent coup or insurrection, and it's not like it was even remotely close.

Do you know how to tell when American Conservatives are actually attempting such a thing?

How would he?

America hasn't had a civil war in over 150 years, by country standards thats incredibly stable like unusually so, actual organized right wing violence is like wise pretty fucking rare. I mean you get a few lone wolves but compared to the mass rioting of the left from the 1960s onwards the rights actually been pretty chill on the violence front. I mean a few lone wolves but you haven't gotten some thing like lets say.

That massive fucking riot the left did where Trump was forced into a bunker, or the mass riots of the floyd george thing, or the weather men, or the rodney king riots, the watts riots, and a host of other crazy shit. And you have quite a few leftists who were a part of terrorists groups and then went on to get respected positions in acadamia or politics.

That's the kind of world he grew up in.


The only people who really have context for something like that are either people who did a deep dive in history (This is depressing as fuck) with out the blinders, or people lived through something like this. Which you know talk to our south american posters they will inform you what such a thing actually looks like.
 

ShieldWife

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In all likelihood, Jan 6th was a mostly peaceful protest (to use a leftist deceitful phrase for truth) which was turned into a riot by FBI provocateurs. There is still a huge amount of information being covered up and withheld, still a lot of lies being told, to justify persecuting political opponents and spreading a false narrative.

What it wasn’t was an insurrection - the idea is utterly absurd. Right wingers, known for gun ownership, trying to overthrow the government with no guns? To believe this, you would have to be entirely detached from reality.

One of Donald Trump’s great accomplishments as a politician was to get the left/establishment to reveal how utterly corrupt and evil that they are.
 

Terthna

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Well, the rioters and Trump seemed to think it was. I personally think there was no plan for what to do after they entered the building....but that defiance of government authority on such a scale cannot be let off.
And yet when the regressive left does it, usually several orders of magnitude worse than what happened on January 6th, it almost always is; to the point where most people, particularly those who unthinkingly consume and accept the regressive left's propaganda as gospel, forget it ever even happened. Heck, some (like my aunt for example) even get this vacant expression on their faces when you try and remind them, and you end up seeing in real time what it looks like when someone's brain tries to memory hole a conversation that's currently in progress.
 

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