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Just telling you what I know based on experience. Those impossible meat/incogmeato burgers? Soy.
I honestly didn't know.
Though it seems they are more going for the fake stuff as in not real but not plant.
 
I suppose "fake" might be that lab grown stuff, but it seems like that would be more expensive than regular meat. Unless they really mean something like Spam.
 
I suppose "fake" might be that lab grown stuff, but it seems like that would be more expensive than regular meat. Unless they really mean something like Spam.
Sounds more like the not-meat you would find in the vegeterian aisle of your local supermarket.
 
Isn't there other alternatives besides Soy?
Tofu is one.
Tofu is 100% pressed Soybean curd.


Of actual non-soy vegetable alternatives, I can think of Beans and Rice or Corn, Lentils, and Spirulina Algae has a ridiculous amount of protein in it. However I don't know of any vegan meat substitute made from any of them, only soybeans can be processed and texturized to be meat-like.

Back in the day, I recall the Navy relied heavily on rabbit meat. Rabbits provide more protein per square foot than any other livestock and their meat is extremely dense with protein, the old navy records indicated 4 ounces of rabbit was sufficient for protein nutrition where 6-8 ounces of chicken or beef would be required for the same. They have the disadvantage of having almost zero fat content so you have to add some other source of oil or fat to them (You can literally go into a kind of shock called Rabbit Starvation where your body gets nitrogen poisoning from the ridiculous amount of protein in rabbit without enough carbs and fats to go with it to balance your biochemistry), however that wasn't really a big issue for Navy cooks who knew how to add cooking oil to a pan anyway.
 
Tofu is 100% pressed Soybean curd.

I've read that the main difference between Asian soy consumption and western one is that things like tofu and soy sauce involve fermentation, which is a pretty impactful chemical process that breaks apart most of the estrogen-like molecules, while the western style industrial ingredient soy use tends to use it without any such process, so the amount of phytoestrogens in those can be relatively higher.
 
Tofu is 100% pressed Soybean curd.


Of actual non-soy vegetable alternatives, I can think of Beans and Rice or Corn, Lentils, and Spirulina Algae has a ridiculous amount of protein in it. However I don't know of any vegan meat substitute made from any of them, only soybeans can be processed and texturized to be meat-like.

Back in the day, I recall the Navy relied heavily on rabbit meat. Rabbits provide more protein per square foot than any other livestock and their meat is extremely dense with protein, the old navy records indicated 4 ounces of rabbit was sufficient for protein nutrition where 6-8 ounces of chicken or beef would be required for the same. They have the disadvantage of having almost zero fat content so you have to add some other source of oil or fat to them (You can literally go into a kind of shock called Rabbit Starvation where your body gets nitrogen poisoning from the ridiculous amount of protein in rabbit without enough carbs and fats to go with it to balance your biochemistry), however that wasn't really a big issue for Navy cooks who knew how to add cooking oil to a pan anyway.
Huh.
Didn't know that. Thank you.

Then again we won't know for sure until it starts getting sent out.

Like I said, the Navy has always been the second worst when it comes to being progressive.
The AF is worse
 
It sounds like this might be a time for enterprising mushroom farmers to get some DoD contracts.

I guarantee mushroom burgers and patties will go over better than soy shit.
 
Yeah, feeding sailors massive amounts of soy will probably do wonderful things to them. :sneaky:

It'll turn them into soyboys lol! :D

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I mean the rainbow Ukraone seems to he doing fine against Russia so...

If by "doing fine" you mean feeding their male population into a WW1-style meatgrinder, complete with trenches and artillery barrages, then I suppose they are.
Russia is winning, by the way.

Basically once we get a new president things will change

But then 4 to 8 years later you get another new president, and things change again...
 
On another tack - (excuse the pun). This topic of what food to feed people in the US Navy... we are talking about people in ships or boats out at sea, right?

Oh if only there was something edible in the water... if only...
 
On another tack - (excuse the pun). This topic of what food to feed people in the US Navy... we are talking about people in ships or boats out at sea, right?

Oh if only there was something edible in the water... if only...
I will point out that fishing gear, on a larger than personal scale, is quite large, and a naval vessel isn't set up for that.

There's also limits as to what's avalable in different locations, and....


Look, medeval armies often "lived off the land" and that's what you're suggesting. It was slow, it required spreading out in vunerable ways, and the troops were never as good as the professionals when it came to acquring food.


Generally, unless you're going to add fishing trawlers to fleets, with the nessesity to protect them, it's a bad idea. In fact, it's just a bad idea.
 
If by "doing fine" you mean feeding their male population into a WW1-style meatgrinder, complete with trenches and artillery barrages, then I suppose they are.
Russia is winning, by the way.
That's the thing, trench warfare style meatgrinder is a victory when the other side wanted a blitzkrieg style meatgrinder instead and is taking bigger losses in the trench warfare. After all it's much cheaper to defend trench lines than to attack them.
 
That's the thing, trench warfare style meatgrinder is a victory when the other side wanted a blitzkrieg style meatgrinder instead and is taking bigger losses in the trench warfare. After all it's much cheaper to defend trench lines than to attack them.

All of the trenches are on Ukrainian- (nyet! Is Novorossiya!) ahem - land that the Ukrainian regime claims, so now all the Russians need to do is defend, and they win.
 
All of the trenches are on Ukrainian- (nyet! Is Novorossiya!) ahem - land that the Ukrainian regime claims, so now all the Russians need to do is defend, and they win.
Successfully. They have to defend successfully, indefinitely pretty much.
Bold of you to assume that the Putin regime is going to do something as careful and passive as going into defense while its army still has some leftovers of infantry and political goals to fulfill.
And once they don't, good luck defending trenches without infantry.
 

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