Tucker Carlson Leaving Fox News

[Bacle]

The USSR collapsed in the 90s, three decades ago.

And the Cninese took over their psyops in the 1970s anyway.

You wanna talk credulous imagine trying to sell people that a country that hasn't existed for almost half a century is responsible for my social ills.

Nah left leaning Americans, bureaucratic Amsricans and high earning college grads who don't deserve their incomes did this.

Not some octogenarian has beens who presided over a dying empire.

You are fundamentally irrational about this Bacle, you're even using Bushite talking points.

A child of MK Ultra has no business lecturing those whose eyes are open.

No, my eyes are open, and guess what, the Russian's have still been running part of the psy-ops against the west, are not our friends, and seem to want to take Alaska back now based off some of their recent rhetoric.

I also happen to have family in Alaska, and there is no doubt in my mind that the Russian national psyche is servile and retarded enough to actually try something if they think they can get away with it.

We stop them here, now and break the Bear in Ukraine and do what need to be done to keep the orcs in Mordor out of fear of the power of the west in perpetuity, or this will see a larger war with NATO/the west break out that isn't using 'proxy forces'.

The GOP becoming retarded about the situation in Ukraine, and not trying to due Ukraien stuff as a separate bill. None of these issues (aid to Ukraine, aid to Israel, and the US border) should be 'riders' to each other in some stupid omnibus bill.

These should be 3 separate bills, debated and considered on their own merits.

Nobody in here is even agreeing with Russia, or Putin.

Sure, we might have a couple members here who support Russia, but the vast majority don't. We are just saying that journalists interviewing leaders about massive, world changing wars, is a part of journalism, and is a valuable thing that journalists do.

And you're in here like REEEEEE TUCKER BAD PUTIN BAD HE SHOULD STAY IN RUSSIA REEEEEEE

This isn't 'journalism', this is Tucker on an ego trip and Putin sensing a great way to up his own cred in the west with the fools inclined to listen, while the Dems will be happy to let Tucker do it to undermine Trump and the 'MAGA' part of the GOP.

You and many others cheering for Tucker to do this have walked right into the Dems trap.

I like how I'm the only guy who shits on Russia so hard I use designated shitting Igloo memes.

But bacle is implying hard that I'm a Russian asset.

This is amazing

Not a Russian asset, just a macho, stubborn, thickheaded Latino traumatized by the commies in your homeland and blind to the persistent Russian influence into western circles of power after the Berlin Wall fell, preferring to imagine it is all the CCP's doing now.

You are so blinkered by the Kremlin's western propaganda efforts that instead of 'supporting globohomo', you've switched to effectively 'supporting gulaghomo'.

 

[Marduk]

Letting people hear Putins rationale and viewpoint isn't the same thing as pushing sex on children.

The principle is the same. CCP is a closer one and widely noted as a major problem.
Though the leftists also argue that they are only serving information to those they propagandize, be it children with sex stuff, college students with race stuff, or workplaces with DEI propaganda.

No one expects you to have a balanced view of Russia, but America is not Poland and Americans are allowed to hear Putin out and decide if they think being eternal enemies is the right decision.

By that logic Americans are allowed to hear Xi and CCP too "and decide if they think being eternal enemies is the right decision." And not once or twice, but they are "allowed to hear them out" every day, from half their media outlets, for next 10 years, or even more, as long as it takes for them to finally make the decision CCP considers correct.
So it's a quite dangerous logic if you apply it evenly. We both know that CCP has both the means and will to do something like that.
Sorry, but a country that allows its enemies or rivals to blast propaganda at own citizenry willy-nilly with no restriction or reciprocity is simply being stupid, and will have only itself to blame for the logical consequences of it.

Obviously those who are set on being pro-Ukrainian will hate this, that doesn't give them the right to silence anyone with a differing opinion and damn sure doesn't give them the right to banish those who dare visit Russia. Also non-Americans opinion do not matter here, period.

Let's not conflate at least 3 arguments here:
1.Carlson should be banished out of USA. Illegal and probably excessive, even though some people do say it, probably playing ITG.
2. Carlson should be silenced. Probably against 1A, but this does involve a foreign power and some exotic laws so this could be complicated.
3. Unless he does something very unexpected with that interview, Carlson should be considered a scumbag for doing a favor to a hostile foreign power in form of aiding it by speech, and people should think less of him for it, like many of others already do for other journos who simp for Iran, Hamas or CCP.
This one i will sign under with no reservation, and i will think less of anyone who doesn't.

Also last time i checked Putin is not an American, so it's quite ironic you would use that argument in defense of Putin's right to free speech in form of serving his national propaganda to millions of Americans.

Tucker himself already fully agrees with Putin and is loved in Russia iirc. This isn't going to be a gripping interview where he really drills Putin or brings any new information or perspective to light.

Well i know that, but some Tucker fans present in the thread seem to be deluded that this might be something else.

 

[Rocinante]

No, my eyes are open, and guess what, the Russian's have still been running part of the psy-ops against the west, are not our friends, and seem to want to take Alaska back now based off some of their recent rhetoric.

I also happen to have family in Alaska, and there is no doubt in my mind that the Russian national psyche is servile and retarded enough to actually try something if they think they can get away with it.

We stop them here, now and break the Bear in Ukraine and do what need to be done to keep the orcs in Mordor out of fear of the power of the west in perpetuity, or this will see a larger war with NATO/the west break out that isn't using 'proxy forces'.

The GOP becoming retarded about the situation in Ukraine, and not trying to due Ukraien stuff as a separate bill. None of these issues (aid to Ukraine, aid to Israel, and the US border) should be 'riders' to each other in some stupid omnibus bill.

These should be 3 separate bills, debated and considered on their own merits.

This isn't 'journalism', this is Tucker on an ego trip and Putin sensing a great way to up his own cred in the west with the fools inclined to listen, while the Dems will be happy to let Tucker do it to undermine Trump and the 'MAGA' part of the GOP.

You and many others cheering for Tucker to do this have walked right into the Dems trap.

Not a Russian asset, just a macho, stubborn, thickheaded Latino traumatized by the commies in your homeland and blind to the persistent Russian influence into western circles of power after the Berlin Wall fell, preferring to imagine it is all the CCP's doing now.

You are so blinkered by the Kremlin's western propaganda efforts that instead of 'supporting globohomo', you've switched to effectively 'supporting gulaghomo'.

Someone who decides they aren't going to vote for Republicans because Tucker interviewed Putin, was never actually going to vote for Republicans anyways.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

These should be 3 separate bills, debated and considered on their own merits.

Totally agree with you.

This isn't 'journalism', this is Tucker on an ego trip and Putin sensing a great way to up his own cred in the west with the fools inclined to listen, while the Dems will be happy to let Tucker do it to undermine Trump and the 'MAGA' part of the GOP.

Per your interpretation. That does NOT make it true.
I'm going to weigh the outcome AFTER I watch it, not before.

You and many others cheering for Tucker to do this have walked right into the Dems trap.

I'm not cheering Tucker Carlson on. I'm trying to keep an open mind to what I hear so I can then chase things down the rabbit hole.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

You are so blinkered by the Kremlin's western propaganda efforts that instead of 'supporting globohomo', you've switched to effectively 'supporting gulaghomo'.

...blinkered by Russian propaganda, dude you're out of your damn mind.

None of my posts suggest I take them or really any eastern European country seriously.

What the fuck makes you think I'd listen to anything a bunch of backwater igloo shitting savages have to say about anything?

 

[StormEagle]

...blinkered by Russian propaganda, dude you're out of your damn mind.

None of my posts suggest I take them or really any eastern European country seriously.

What the fuck makes you think I'd listen to anything a bunch of backwater igloo shitting savages have to say about anything?

You don’t support Ukraine unquestioningly, therefore you’re obviously Putin’s buttboy./s

 

[Bacle]

Someone who decides they aren't going to vote for Republicans because Tucker interviewed Putin, was never actually going to vote for Republicans anyways.

It's not just about Tucker, but what else is going on in the context of what he is doing.

If the GOP embraces this madness, they will go the way of the Whigs, except even the Whig's won't have the same stigma the GOP will have if it follows Tucker's lead.

I can certainly say that the actions of part of the GOP since Feb of 2022 have made me glad I am a Registered Independent, instead of someone who actually joined the GOP formally.

...blinkered by Russian propaganda, dude you're out of your damn mind.

None of my posts suggest I take them or really any eastern European country seriously.

What the fuck makes you think I'd listen to anything a bunch of backwater igloo shitting savages have to say about anything?

You seem to take criticism of Russia pretty seriously, you try your best to pretend nothing in Eastern Europe matters because of your retarded personal bias from your homeland (so you claim), and you echo complete bullshit claims like 'Zelensky rapes kids'.

I think you are stubborn, thickheaded, traumatized by your homeland's experience with commies, overly contemptuous of geopolitical realities/affairs outside your preferred narratives in many areas of the world, and constitutionally unable to publicly admit to having ever been fooled or misled because it would hurt the pride your mother culture tries to instill in it's young males.

Totally agree with you.

Per your interpretation. That does NOT make it true.
I'm going to weigh the outcome AFTER I watch it, not before.

The whole thing will be pre-cleared by the FSB, nothing unfavorable to Putin (domestically) will come out of it, so what's the point besides stroking the ego of both Putin and Tucker?

I'm not cheering Tucker Carlson on. I'm trying to keep an open mind to what I hear so I can then chase things down the rabbit hole.

There is no 'open mind' to be had on the issue of Russia and Ukraine; there is a a clear evil and a clear good.

Tucker is just giving evil an ego stroke, nothing more or less.

You don’t support Ukraine unquestioningly, therefore you’re obviously Putin’s buttboy./s

No, he just repeats lies like 'Zelensky rape's kids'.

 

[Poe]

Also last time i checked Putin is not an American, so it's quite ironic you would use that argument in defense of Putin's right to free speech in form of serving his national propaganda to millions of Americans.

I need you to please explain to me how your mind devised this as a response and thought it made any sense at all. I said non-Americans opinion do not matter about Tucker being in Russia, in a discussion where another American said he should be banished (which you decided to take part in,) and that they should fuck off with their calling of him a traitor etc. How did you reach "Yeah well Putin isn't American so why are you defending his freedom of speech," from that?

Well i know that, but some Tucker fans present in the thread seem to be deluded that this might be something else.

I'm not a tucker fan, I loathe him and think he's fake as fuck, but he has every right to interview the head of state of Russia. As an American he's allowed to hold non-mainstream opinions and even want to be allies with Russia if so inclined and as a member of the press interview the leaders of even belligerent nations. Unless he is fighting for the Russian army against US troops, or actively passing classified secrets to the Russians, he is not a traitor.

 

[Vyor]

Russia hasn't done me wrong,

Yes, yes they have. Unless paying for, training, and running cyberterror campaigns against the USA isn't doing you wrong? If so, I'd like to report something to the FBI...

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Yes, yes they have. Unless paying for, training, and running cyberterror campaigns against the USA isn't doing you wrong? If so, I'd like to report something to the FBI...

You mean the ones our own NSA is complicit in?

And threatening users like that ought to be a bannable offense tbh

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

You seem to take criticism of Russia pretty seriously, you try your best to pretend nothing in Eastern Europe matters because of your retarded personal bias from your homeland (so you claim), and you echo complete bullshit claims like 'Zelensky rapes kids'.
'.

AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Also good lord you're laying on the Latino hate pretry thick.

Gotta love that waspy contempt

You don't support Ukraine unquestioningly, therefore you're obviously Putin's buttboy./s

To the point where multiple threats against my personal safety and livelihood are tolerated in this very thread.

I thought the violent contempt for divergent thought went away with the old regime of site owners but I guess that Neocon contempt is still thriving.

 

[Marduk]

I need you to please explain to me how your mind devised this as a response and thought it made any sense at all. I said non-Americans opinion do not matter about Tucker being in Russia, in a discussion where another American said he should be banished (which you decided to take part in,) and that they should fuck off with their calling of him a traitor etc. How did you reach "Yeah well Putin isn't American so why are you defending his freedom of speech," from that?

I already dissected your attempt to conflate different arguments with mine and i am calling you out in a civil manner to stop it. I don't care about someone else wanting him banished, i already said my opinion on it.

However, in previous posts you have stated that "Americans are allowed to hear Putin out", hence the logic follows that Putin has the right to have as much airtime in America in front of American public as he can arrange for himself. He may or may not need to have an American (or even an American who happens to be a journo) to act as his proxy, but for the rich and powerful, like leaders of sovereign states especially, that's a symbolic restriction. Hence, the logic follows that you want foreign leaders, including ones with malicious intents and conflicting interests who have a lot of need for such, to have effective freedom of speech in America, and their opinions matter, Americans are allowed to hear them out, so it's freedom of propagandizing Americans for absolutely everyone.

So, in light of that, why do you say that non-American's opinion on Tucker being in Russia doesn't matter, yet also say that Putin's, also non-American's, opinion on whatever he wants to talk about does matter so much that Americans are allowed to not only hear it if they seek it out, but have it broadcasted by popular journos and massive media organizations? Sounds like you think his opinions do matter a lot... Quite a convenient, petty and ironic distinction, i just wanted to say, and also wanted to protest - if Putin can shout his opinions at Americans in hope some may be swayed by that, regardless of what Bacle thinks of whether they matter enough to warrant allowing him that, so shall I, regardless of what you think of it - after all, Americans are also allowed to hear me out and then decide for themselves if my non-American opinion matters or not...

I'm not a tucker fan, I loathe him and think he's fake as fuck, but he has every right to interview the head of state of Russia. As an American he's allowed to hold non-mainstream opinions and even want to be allies with Russia if so inclined and as a member of the press interview the leaders of even belligerent nations. Unless he is fighting for the Russian army against US troops, or actively passing classified secrets to the Russians, he is not a traitor.

Spare me the legal technicality defense, you're not Tucker's lawyer and i'm not a judge on his trial - by that technicality not a single US communist or communist sympathizer who didn't have access to classified secrets was a traitor for Soviet Union either, as USA was never in a state of war with it. But in the common sense of understanding of the term traitor, that's quite a different story. I'm using the latter obviously.

Extrapolating from that, even if he technically didn't violate the law, in letter at least, not necessarily in spirit, that doesn't mean i have to think he did nothing wrong, or that there should be no law against what he did, and in the end, that his reputation shouldn't be considered compromised by doing such things.

 

[Bacle]

AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Also good lord you're laying on the Latino hate pretry thick.

Gotta love that waspy contempt

No, just know the culture and how pride issues operate in it; father nearly got tossed in jail as a kid for calling Venezuelan kid gay during a fight because the kid's father was local big man.

Also, not a WASP; descendant of Irish Catholics and French Catholics.

But you also have not provided any proof of the 'Zelensky rapes kids' claim.

So put up or shut up on that; oh wait, you can't, because it's complete bullshit only people neck-deep in RU propaganda seem to say.

 

[Husky_Khan]

To the point where multiple threats against my personal safety and livelihood are tolerated in this very thread.

I thought the violent contempt for divergent thought went away with the old regime of site owners but I guess that Neocon contempt is still thriving.

It takes the staff like ten days to deal with a thread derailment or issue a friendly reminder.

Did anyone even report it lol?

With that said I prefer gross understaffing as opposed to overstaffing.

 

[Vyor]

You mean the ones our own NSA is complicit in?

And threatening users like that ought to be a bannable offense tbh

The NSA is not complicit in them. If they were, I wouldn't get paid to stop them.

And that wasn't a threat, that was a joke. But I shouldn't be surprised that your inability to discern facts from fiction would apply to those too.

 

[Poe]

I already dissected your attempt to conflate different arguments with mine and i am calling you out in a civil manner to stop it. I don't care about someone else wanting him banished, i already said my opinion on it.

However, in previous posts you have stated that "Americans are allowed to hear Putin out", hence the logic follows that Putin has the right to have as much airtime in America in front of American public as he can arrange for himself. He may or may not need to have an American (or even an American who happens to be a journo) to act as his proxy, but for the rich and powerful, like leaders of sovereign states especially, that's a symbolic restriction. Hence, the logic follows that you want foreign leaders, including ones with malicious intents and conflicting interests who have a lot of need for such, to have effective freedom of speech in America, and their opinions matter, Americans are allowed to hear them out, so it's freedom of propagandizing Americans for absolutely everyone.

So, in light of that, why do you say that non-American's opinion on Tucker being in Russia doesn't matter, yet also say that Putin's, also non-American's, opinion on whatever he wants to talk about does matter so much that Americans are allowed to not only hear it if they seek it out, but have it broadcasted by popular journos and massive media organizations? Sounds like you think his opinions do matter a lot... Quite a convenient, petty and ironic distinction, i just wanted to say, and also wanted to protest - if Putin can shout his opinions at Americans in hope some may be swayed by that, regardless of what Bacle thinks of whether they matter enough to warrant allowing him that, so shall I, regardless of what you think of it - after all, Americans are also allowed to hear me out and then decide for themselves if my non-American opinion matters or not...

Americans are allowed to hear him out but that wasn't my point, we're specifically discussing one American who travelled over there right now. There isn't a debate to be about whether we can hear Putin, it's a guaranteed right we have that's why we can buy Hitlers book and the like. But okay, fair enough I guess about why you brought it up

The NSA is not complicit in them. If they were, I wouldn't get paid to stop them.

And that wasn't a threat, that was a joke. But I shouldn't be surprised that your inability to discern facts from fiction would apply to those too.

Are you saying you are currently employed by the NSA?

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Are you saying you are currently employed by the NSA?

Another Fed on the board.

Legitimately upsetting and very frightening

 

[Vyor]

Are you saying you are currently employed by the NSA?

Another Fed on the board.

Legitimately upsetting and very frightening

No, military contractor.

 

[Zachowon]

Yer right, but it will get seen by many more people.

Sure, but I'm curious as to how this will impact Tucker's opinion and want to hear his conclusions as well.

Sure, but that's not really the concern for us. It's about getting real news and world events to the populations of those countries without having been filtered by their governments propaganda arms first.

Knowing your background I can understand the aspect of taking every avenue and figuring it out.

Don't let Bacle and Zachowon represent all of us in your mind.

I think what Tucker's doing is probably foolish, but since we're not actually at war, it's absolutely something he's allowed to do.

I have some vague hope he'll actually realize Putin is an explicit enemy of not just America, but pretty much all that's good in this world, but it's one of the things Tucker's been bad on for a long time. Just because a lot of the American political establishment is utterly corrupt and immoral, doesn't mean Putin isn't.

I'd prefer it if Tucker would focus on things like J6 and Democrats other egregious abuses of power, but that's just my preference.

If he actually comes out of an interview like this with something useful to say, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Hey now, I am not for anything happening to Tucker.
I just want it to be known that this is something that will hurt the right more then help

I need you to please explain to me how your mind devised this as a response and thought it made any sense at all. I said non-Americans opinion do not matter about Tucker being in Russia, in a discussion where another American said he should be banished (which you decided to take part in,) and that they should fuck off with their calling of him a traitor etc. How did you reach "Yeah well Putin isn't American so why are you defending his freedom of speech," from that?


I'm not a tucker fan, I loathe him and think he's fake as fuck, but he has every right to interview the head of state of Russia. As an American he's allowed to hold non-mainstream opinions and even want to be allies with Russia if so inclined and as a member of the press interview the leaders of even belligerent nations. Unless he is fighting for the Russian army against US troops, or actively passing classified secrets to the Russians, he is not a traitor.

I would not consider him a traitor, just a useful pawn for the Russian propaganda machine and huge help in the Dems narrative.
But hey he can do what he wants, I just have lost ALL respect I ever had for Tucker.
The little thay was left after the invasion

No, military contractor.

Welcome to my life Vyor.

 

[History Learner]

I would like to thank Tucker Carlson for not only triggering one of the funniest meltdowns I’ve ever seen among the terminally online here, but further for his work in revealing just how many of the Pro-Ukrainian commentators here are financially incentivized to do so.