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The Right doesn't need to send Lefties to the morgue just for being on the Left, the trans drugs, sterility campaigns, fentanyl, and abject stupidity will remove many of them from the population by their own hands at this point.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Yes, because Roe vs Wade wasn't overturned, the majority of states are clearly still 'may issue' not 'shall issue' or constitutional carry, and homeschooling hasn't been rammed through to be legal in many states where it was not. The left also clearly still controls the media except for a handful of newspapers, definitely hasn't been anything happening there either.
Yes, the right is always on the defensive, never goes on the offensive.
How long have you been following politics for?
I mean, it is what I use to find sources more then anything.
Depends in how well known the topic is.
For instance, battle of cologne, the book spearhead is barley mentioned yet is a eye witness account if thr war
Poe
Well-known member
Well there policy is to prefer secondary sources
That is stupid.Well there policy is to prefer secondary sources
I guess I have gotten lucky then?
I would never have found this account without Wikipedia
All that does is get your other cheek slapped, and it's stupidity at its finest.
This mindset has also destroyed families, where they want a wronged party to forgive an asshole because "it's the right thing to do".
Fuck that.
The pervasive view of the new right is that playing the long game is a defeatist strategy because the country doesn't have much longer left.
So slow marches through the courts while the other side holds the reins of power merely amounts to delaying the inevitable for fewer and fewer years.
We kinda want immediate, abrupt and intense change, we wanna see tens of thousands of government employees jailed and Blackrock seized and liquidated and Colleges shut down and their lands auctioned off in our lifetimes.
Preferably before some of us turn 50
DarthOne
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It is also a fundamental misunderstanding of the Biblical standard it’s supposed to be built upon. It’s not ‘let people walk all over you’ it’s ‘I am person, and you will treat me as such’. At least it’s my understanding.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
'Turn the other cheek' is specifically for mere matters of insult, not serious assaults. If someone slaps you on the cheek, don't go being violent back; it's an insult or rebuke, not an attempt to meaningfully injure you.
To put it another way, if someone did the stereotyped tradition of slapping you with a glove to initiate a duel, the Christian response would be 'I'm not going to get into a serious fight with you over hurt feelings.'
This does not extend to someone coming at you with a knife, a gun, or similar.
And that ain't going to happen, at least to the degree you want, so maybe dial back your goals/aims to something actually achievable and not just an anarchist wank-fest.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
The New Right, as much as its sentiment can be justified, is much too angry for its own good. Rage clouds the mind like a God damn narcotic and we should all swear off it.
I think that Zaeed Massani said it best in that 'Rage is a hell of an anesthetic'; it will numb the pain for a bit, but usually it doesn't actually fix anything on it's own.
There are reasons to be angry at the US gov for many reasons, but putting tens of thousands of government employees in jail just for working for the gov, enacting organization destruction colleges just for being colleges, and wants it done on his timeframe...it's a retarded unicorn of a desire.
The Dems would love the GOP to all act like IWD, because it would make it so much easier to just ignore them and turn moderates against the GOP over that sort of shit.
DarthOne
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Very true. But it’s hard not to feel enraged with what they and the weak-willed and backstabbing Republicans have done to our nation and our people.
People like me are winning everywhere and moderates are being correctly reduced to tagalongs
Your day in the sun hasn't even come close to arriving, this is the very bleeding edge of historical movement.
Not from what I can see.
Milie's win in Argentina has no bearing on the US electorate, even if many people on the Right celebrated his win.
Moderates also outnumber the registered voters of either side, and thus will never be 'tagalongs', at least in US politics.
His ideologies day in the sun isn't coming, ever, to the US, and for multiple reasons.
What Milie did in Argentina is not something we can likely replicate here in the US, because too many powerful groups effectively decide who can run and who cannot, and Milie was not a threat to them the way someone like him in US would be.
willdelve4beer
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Sorry, but unless you personally have recently run for and won office, 'people like' you haven't won crap. What has happened is that some politicos have worked out a new branding strategy, turning your anger into reliable funding, primary votes, and social media clickbait. Of the three, it is the first that they really care about.
Do you think Gaetz, for example, gives a crap about, or has anything remotely approaching a plan to address, the budget deficit that might be enacted at some point before the Boomers finish draining the so-called social security fund? Fuck no. But he can get on social media with his shit-stirring, and thereby guarantee a constant flow of small donor payments to his various associated PACs and orgs. As a plus, he is now viewed as important enough to actually buy off, by the lobbying firms in DC, which is another nice income stream. This isn't some grand cause to him, it is a business model. That folks can not pick up on something so bloody obvious is astounding.
The goals you claim to want - jailing sizable portions of the feds (and associated beltway bandit contractors), disbanding ivy league and ivy-league wannabe colleges, etc? Not only are they never going to happen, but your so-called leaders and fighters are never even going to make a serious attempt at achieving any of them. Why? Because they know well enough that trying is pointless.
Want to make a realistic impact on colleges? Get the feds out of student loans, and forces colleges to issue loans directly to their enrollees/customers. Watch what happens to pricing, indoctrination, and course offerings then.
Want to cut back on feds doing heinous and illegal crap? Start sunsetting regulations, and keep Congress from reinstating Chevron via legislation. Will never happen, because Chevron and administrative state delegation is the best thing to ever happen to Congress.
Want to sort out the budget and save social security for granma? Start reducing all non-interest outlays (spending). Not by massive amounts, just 1% a year, off the prior year top line, no inflation adjustment for anything, anywhere. In a decade we'll back to those horrifying austerity years of the Bush-Clinton budgets. I seem to recall a distinct lack of hordes of geezers dying in the streets back then.
Is anyone in DC putting those into bills and trying to push them through Congress? Not that I've heard. Why? Because they don't actually care about that. They're not in DC to save you, or America, or much of anything else. They're in DC for one or two pet causes, from a decade or more ago when they first got interested in politics, and which they have often long since forgotten about. They are in DC to be in DC, to be powerful and high status, to be on TV and courted by lobbyists, to get their friends and family favors and positions. Nepotism isn't the embarassing scandal, it is the point, for most of them, most of the time.
This isn't the grand leaders of the people fighting against the evil elites - the story you've been sold. This is the slightly less favored, less-entrenched elites using you to help them secure power and privilege from those currently at the top of the shitpile.
Once they've gotten their sinecures, they'll drop you and your issues, and never look back.
Look at Trump and the courts - he had to promise to appoint Federalist Society judges in his first administration, in order to get party support. He has publicly blamed those same appointments for costing him and his elections. Think he is going to do that again? Fuck no. His entire promise to the right, on a cultural level, now boils down to: "I won't actively try to fuck you over, maybe, and by being such a huge and irresistible target, will hopefully distract those who hate you, for a little while, probably."
Economically, well, he's a protectionist idiot, just like Biden. Probably favor different industries, but the same shitty ideas are still shitty. Somewhat less likely to blow up the deficit even more trying to shower money on leftists. I give him better than even odds of trying to pull the same kind of dumbassery to push money to his supporters though. Which means, even more inflation to come.
yay
Hell, even if he wanted to move the needle on your issues, he won't be able to - he'll be a lame duck from day one, with little to no political capital, and zero way to push the other side to play ball. At best (assuming the scatter brained narcissist or his hangers on remember) he might revoke Biden's crappy executive orders. Which would be great, assuming the bureaucracy was raring to defy them and only needed presidential permission. Not exactly the case, now is it?
Our best case is 4 more years of riots and resistance, while everyone investigates anyone who was ever remotely associated with Trump for, effectively, heresy. Is that better than (Jill) Biden part 2, leftier, feebler, and less competent?
Hopefully.
But, not exactly the amazing, energetic, fundamental turnaround that you argue that the country needs.
The best advice I can give you on politics is to stop feeling and start thinking. It is of course, the last thing anyone professionally involved in politics, on either side, wants you to do. Will that mean you end up agreeing with me on everything, or even anything? Unlikely. But at least you'll be deciding for yourself, and not letting social media algorithms (yes, the right uses them too) lead you around by the nose.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
Argentina is enough of a mess to give someone like Milie a chance. He wouldn’t do well in a country like Britain on account of him being much too over the top, and in America?
None can outshine the Don. He’s like marmite, but bloody Hell is he entertaining.
None can outshine the Don. He’s like marmite, but bloody Hell is he entertaining.
Short of someone like Dwayne Johnson running and winning POTUS, no one will outdue Trump for bombast and flare.