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Actually it'll look more like the Mexican War and end with the cartels begging for mercy. Unlike Iraq and Afghanistan the cartels have no safe haven to retreat to. Any outside assistance will have to get past us first, and the moment someone touches one of our boats it'll be over
........Hold on.

Are you suggesting that we would blockade Mexico while we're conducting this operation?
 
I think a special military operation into Mexico will be worse than Iraq. But if you want me to just declare that it will be as bad as Iraq, then sure, I think I can accept that compromise.
Okay, that's your assertion.

Why?

I've made two posts explaining the reasoning behind why I think the cartels would get crushed.

What is the reasoning behind your much more pessimistic expectations? Because so far, it just seems to be a general-purpose doom-and-gloom attitude with no justification or reasoning.
 
........Hold on.

Are you suggesting that we would blockade Mexico while we're conducting this operation?
Given the cartels have foreign backers outside Mexico, and they include places like the CCP, Russia, and Iran, a blockade of Mexico to keep them from reinforcing/aiding their cartel proxies during the clean up/clean out seems like a prudent measure.

Keep ships from those nations, or from 'neutrals' who aid them, from reaching Mexico, and it will remove a lot of the logistics cartels need to keep running.
 
Given the cartels have foreign backers outside Mexico, and they include places like the CCP, Russia, and Iran, a blockade of Mexico to keep them from reinforcing/aiding their cartel proxies during the clean up/clean out seems like a prudent measure.

Keep ships from those nations, or from 'neutrals' who aid them, from reaching Mexico, and it will remove a lot of the logistics cartels need to keep running.
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I will admit. I had assumed that when you guys were talking about sending the special forces into Mexico, that this would come with the grudging acceptance of the Mexican government ala Pershing's expedition.

Now I'm being told that no, you don't plan on doing that? That you plan on launching a straight up invasion of Mexico (because there is zero chance that you get grudging acceptance if you impose a blockade) with just special forces? Without the Army?

The US used 160,000 soldiers in the initial invasion of Iraq, a country of 40 million. There are 30,000 soldiers in all of USASOC, and you're invading a country of 130 million people.
 
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I will admit. I had assumed that when you guys were talking about sending the special forces into Mexico, that this would come with the grudging acceptance of the Mexican government ala Pershing's expedition.

Now I'm being told that no, you don't plan on doing that? That you plan on launching a straight up invasion of Mexico (because there is zero chance that you get grudging acceptance if you impose a blockade) with just special forces? Without the Army?

The US used 160,000 soldiers in the initial invasion of Iraq, a country of 40 million. There are 30,000 soldiers in all of USASOC, and you're invading a country of 130 million people.
Not invasion, just a very thorough sweep of the cartels, and removal of their logistical aid from foreign backers.

Once the cartels are wiped out, the blockade can be lifted and US forces can return home. Want don't want to keep Mexico, we just want to make it so Mexico's problems stop coming north of the border, and easiest way to do that is remove the rot in Mexico itself.

Shit, we can use air and sea drones for a lot of the blockade work, and probably some of the kinetic actions against the cartels as well.

No more half-measures against the cartels.
 
The idea that dealing with the cartels will be worse than Iraq is hilarious and not something a serious person would propose.
Forgotten nothing. Learned nothing.
Nobody should ever defend themselves because it only makes more enemies you can never beat. This is why no war has ever been won in the history of the world and definitely no nation has ever been invaded and defeated in its own territory.
 
Once the cartels are wiped out, the blockade can be lifted and US forces can return home. Want don't want to keep Mexico, we just want to make it so Mexico's problems stop coming north of the border, and easiest way to do that is remove the rot in Mexico itself.
You cannot be so stupid as to think a blockade isn't an act of war! It is possible, maybe, that Mexico might permit US special forces to conduct a sweep of the cartel (I don't think they will ever do that, but it's not completely insane).

It is completely insane to suggest that Mexico, or any country in this globe, would just shrug in response to a blockade lasting.....how long, exactly? How will you even know when the cartels are wiped out? Even in Iraq, at least there was a capital that could be seized as proof of victory. Do you think the cartel leaders will just sit in their mansions like Scarface?

And if you're going to tell me that the Mexicans will just roll over in response to a blockade that will hit everyone in their country, my response is this. What determines whether a nationality is real or not, at the end of the day, is whether the citizens of said nationality are willing to fight for it. If the Ukrainians had rolled over like some had suggested they do in February 2022, that would be proof that the Ukranian identity was a fradulent construct and that Putin was right about them.

So. Do you think that the Mexican nationality is fake, and that Mexicans don't actually exist?
 
You cannot be so stupid as to think a blockade isn't an act of war! It is possible, maybe, that Mexico might permit US special forces to conduct a sweep of the cartel (I don't think they will ever do that, but it's not completely insane).

It is completely insane to suggest that Mexico, or any country in this globe, would just shrug in response to a blockade lasting.....how long, exactly? How will you even know when the cartels are wiped out? Even in Iraq, at least there was a capital that could be seized as proof of victory. Do you think the cartel leaders will just sit in their mansions like Scarface?

And if you're going to tell me that the Mexicans will just roll over in response to a blockade that will hit everyone in their country, my response is this. What determines whether a nationality is real or not, at the end of the day, is whether the citizens of said nationality are willing to fight for it. If the Ukrainians had rolled over like some had suggested they do in February 2022, that would be proof that the Ukranian identity was a fradulent construct and that Putin was right about them.

So. Do you think that the Mexican nationality is fake, and that Mexicans don't actually exist?
I think Mexico is a failed state with a barely functioning gov, and one step above Somalia or Haiti, and that Mexico's continued allowance of the cartel conflict is already an act of war against the US.

We wouldn't need to stop all ships from reaching Mexico, just the ones from the CCP, Russia, Iran, and their axis of evil friends like Maduro and Kim and whoever is running Cuba now.
 
Upon further investigation and research into the Musk situation, I have to pound the gavel once and for all: THERE IS NO ANTISEMITISM CRISIS IN THIS COUNTRY. IT IS ALL LIBERAL PROPAGANDA. I SAID WHAT I SAID.
 
This makes me so mad because it's pretty obvious they're using DEI and race/identity as a shield to push through their ideologically liberal allies into industry and business
They think playing the name game will protect them from Trump's DEI purge, despite the EO specifically saying it applied to this sort of switcho attempt.
 
I mean that is one way to look at it.

Sinaloa are probably our proxies, because they are less brutal and more business-like than most other cartels.

The Zeta's are nasty mofo's who I think work with Iran a lot, the New Gulf cartel are high on their own supply and probably CCP/Russia proxies, TDA is obviously Maduro's proxy, and I'm rather sure that the Mexican government is effectively it's own cartel at this point.
Sounds about right
He even gave the pen that signed it to RFK. That right there tells me something is going to come of this, someone in the government covered this up and that was the first big announcement on it.
Symbolism
I think a special military operation into Mexico will be worse than Iraq. But if you want me to just declare that it will be as bad as Iraq, then sure, I think I can accept that compromise.
Explain, you have yet to make a good argument
 
Declassified files on MLK paint him as a party animal and original diddy before diddy.

Not sure if they're the recent one. User who shared can't tell.
not completely surprising. he did cheat on his wife and the Admin at the time threatened him with going public about the infidelity. it being more serious and there being more to it than just him being a cheater would just make it more threatening.

Edit: reading it though it looks less like a Diddy Party where the goal was to collect blackmail and more like him being a hedonist or degenerate behind closed doors while putting forth a public persona as a pastor and moral man. I can see why they would have felt this would be incredibly damaging to him at the time. nowadays this isn't a big deal beyond MLK being a sacred cow of the civil rights era. him having feet of clay isn't something some groups would take well.
 

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