Transgender Rights

[Husky_Khan]

She.

"Identifies as" means crazy, not accurate.

Yeah I'm just being whimsical. I usually do the verboten thing and address peeps by their preferred pronoun or whatever even in cases like this where there isn't any personal interaction unless I don't want to. But if they look like a female or whatever, I just call them those descriptors as a manner of convenience as opposed to ideological endorsement even if the latter can be implied to whatever small degree.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

I think he realized his niche in the Conservative sphere.

Local FOX channels are generally better then national ones.
It is also TN. A Conservative safe zone

Local news in general is kind of the last holdouts for real journalism.

 

[Zachowon]

Though this is definitely nit all of it, maybe the source thay leaked it will leak more in the future of it

 

[ParadiseLost]

Honestly I'm kinda surprised that the left didn't just own the first trans male mass shooter - would've been a good opportunity to push for more therapy for transitioning trans men.

Mass shooting is such a male crime that its practically gender affirming.

 

[Simonbob]

Honestly I'm kinda surprised that the left didn't just own the first trans male mass shooter - would've been a good opportunity to push for more therapy for transitioning trans men.

Mass shooting is such a male crime that its practically gender affirming.

Because therapy is a sign that something's wrong.

And they can't admit that trans is something wrong.

 

[Bacle]

Reddit is permanently suspending any account that shares/posts the images of the manifesto.

 

[Jormungandr]

Because therapy is a sign that something's wrong.

And they can't admit that trans is something wrong.

Yup.

Even people who suffer from genuine gender dysphoria need therapy and mental health assistance before they decide on anything like medical treatments/transition surgeries, to find the best path for them personally... well, they used to, at any rate.

Ever since the trans-trender craze started, medical "professionals" just have dollar signs in their eyes and are fast tracking anyone and everyone through what used to be a thorough and actually helpful process for genuine sufferers.

Trans-trenders these days come from a variety of backgrounds; dumb kids thinking it's a subculture like being emo/goth, the groomed, the mentally ill (e.g. depression, schizophrenia, bipolar disorders, personality disorders, et cetera) that need therapy for different reasons, people who are in denial about their sexuality, et cetera.

To imply these people need therapy is to imply that their choices of going Trender is wrong, and that it directly attacks what they perceive to be a critical part of their identity/existence.

 

[Simonbob]

To imply these people need therapy is to imply that their choices of going Trender is wrong, and that it directly attacks what they perceive to be a critical part of their identity/existence.

After I posted it, I realised something.

The main group who freak are not that. It's worse than that. They were told "Trans are to be protected, and you're not a good person if you don't" and thus, no insult to Trans is allowed.

No matter the truth. No matter the suicide rate, the depression, the medical issues, the inherant crippling.


When you never have to think about it, you never know what you're really supporting. Don't care, either.

 

[Scottty]

This is a very silly definition. Pretty much everything is grooming or brainwashing then. Teaching kids American values and civic virtue constitutional issues patriotism tolerance what is right and wrong. Lol

Parents raising their children to follow the same beliefs and values that they themselves believe in is natural and normal. Equating that pedophile teachers indoctrinating children into sexual perversion? There's something deeply wrong inside the heads of people who accept that.

But Atheists started the whole "teaching your religion to your children is child-abuse" nonsense well before this whole pedo-grooming thing was in the public eye. Though I wonder if there wasn't always some sort of link there...

 

[Jormungandr]

Parents raising their children to follow the same beliefs and values that they themselves believe in is natural and normal. Equating that pedophile teachers indoctrinating children into sexual perversion? There's something deeply wrong inside the heads of people who accept that.

But Atheists started the whole "teaching your religion to your children is child-abuse" nonsense well before this whole pedo-grooming thing was in the public eye. Though I wonder if there wasn't always some sort of link there...

shrug That's also true, and it's a normal part of child-rearing -- but aside from the people doing it making such contexts completely different (your family versus malicious actors such as grooming teachers), the methodology is pretty similar: Impart ideas and ideals into young, malleable minds to make them think as you do. It's just that one is utterly horrific (especially with "trans babies" or "non-binary babies") and one actually has use in creating a functional person.

I'm equating the methodologies, nothing else.

 

[Aldarion]

shrug That's also true, and it's a normal part of child-rearing -- but aside from the people doing it making such contexts completely different (your family versus malicious actors such as grooming teachers), the methodology is pretty similar: Impart ideas and ideals into young, malleable minds to make them think as you do. It's just that one is utterly horrific (especially with "trans babies" or "non-binary babies") and one actually has use in creating a functional person.

I'm equating the methodologies, nothing else.

Not necessarily.

Babies are actually hard-wired to learn from their parents, and that starts from birth. Therefore, actual methodology has to be significantly different. Likewise, parenting may be psychologically hard-wired as well:

How Parenting Is Hard-Wired

New research reveals how the brain coordinates the tasks of parenting.

www.psychologytoday.com

Grooming however may well be psychologically damaging even if we ignore what the groomers are teaching kids.

 

[evilchumlee]

So we are going to ignore the sheer number of male pedophiles who go after boys? Doesn't count as gay because they are kids?

Bullshit

I'm not saying all gay people are pedophiles, but I am saying a lot of pedophiles are gay.

That's kind of the point. Sexuality is more complex than that. I know the conservative mind only understand everything in binary black and white, but most things have more nuance.

Alot of these people who are otherwise straight men go after boys. To a pedophile, it generally doesn't matter if it's a boy or a girl. It matters that they have access, and it's a child. It's a fucked up, demented sexuality. Pedo's are opportunistic predators, they go after what they can get.

It's "gay", sure. But i'm not sure doing one same-sex act makes one "gay" as a whole, especially in the context of pedophilia where the gender is often irrelevant to the pedo.

Alot of pedophiles are gay, sure. Alot of pedophiles are straight, as well. There is no actual evidence that suggests gay people are any more likely to be pedophiles than anyone else. It's just... facts. I get it, we don't like gay people here, but we shouldn't just ignore reality.

 

[ParadiseLost]

Alot of these people who are otherwise straight men go after boys. To a pedophile, it generally doesn't matter if it's a boy or a girl. It matters that they have access, and it's a child. It's a fucked up, demented sexuality. Pedo's are opportunistic predators, they go after what they can get.

It's "gay", sure. But i'm not sure doing one same-sex act makes one "gay" as a whole, especially in the context of pedophilia where the gender is often irrelevant to the pedo.

Basically, its like a dude in prison: not gay, but all he has access to is other men, so...

 

[King Arts]

That's kind of the point. Sexuality is more complex than that. I know the conservative mind only understand everything in binary black and white, but most things have more nuance.

Alot of these people who are otherwise straight men go after boys. To a pedophile, it generally doesn't matter if it's a boy or a girl. It matters that they have access, and it's a child. It's a fucked up, demented sexuality. Pedo's are opportunistic predators, they go after what they can get.

It's "gay", sure. But i'm not sure doing one same-sex act makes one "gay" as a whole, especially in the context of pedophilia where the gender is often irrelevant to the pedo.

Alot of pedophiles are gay, sure. Alot of pedophiles are straight, as well. There is no actual evidence that suggests gay people are any more likely to be pedophiles than anyone else. It's just... facts. I get it, we don't like gay people here, but we shouldn't just ignore reality.

Basically, its like a dude in prison: not gay, but all he has access to is other men, so...

What is this nonsense? Doing it once doesn’t make you gay? Guess if I kill somebody then I’ve I’m not a murderer.

 

[evilchumlee]

Basically, its like a dude in prison: not gay, but all he has access to is other men, so...

It's not super far off, but not quite the same. Some similarities though. Rape in general usually has an aspect of power dynamic over just straight sexuality. Prison gay stuff is more out of... necessity? They want it, and there's only one thing available, so... it is what it is.

Pedo's, by and large aren't specifically attracted to a sex... they're attracted to children. They might have a preference in their twisted mind that might also be opposite of the sexuality otherwise, and generally that has more to do with some of power things than actual physical attraction.

What is this nonsense? Doing it once doesn’t make you gay? Guess if I kill somebody then I’ve I’m not a murderer.

So if you have had sex with 400 women, and did something a guy once, you are a "gay man" now?

It seems more nuanced. Even your example, if you kill somebody are you a murderer? Not necessarily? There are lots of people who have killed someone but did not murder them. If someone invaded your home and you killed them in self defense, are you a murderer? Or are you... someone who had killed someone...

"Gay" is being sexual attracted to the same sex. I think it's entirely possible to perform a sexual act with the same sex without necessarily being sexually attracted to the same sex.

 

[King Arts]

It's not super far off, but not quite the same. Some similarities though. Rape in general usually has an aspect of power dynamic over just straight sexuality. Prison gay stuff is more out of... necessity? They want it, and there's only one thing available, so... it is what it is.

Pedo's, by and large aren't specifically attracted to a sex... they're attracted to children. They might have a preference in their twisted mind that might also be opposite of the sexuality otherwise, and generally that has more to do with some of power things than actual physical attraction.



So if you have had sex with 400 women, and did something a guy once, you are a "gay man" now?

It seems more nuanced. Even your example, if you kill somebody are you a murderer? Not necessarily? There are lots of people who have killed someone but did not murder them. If someone invaded your home and you killed them in self defense, are you a murderer? Or are you... someone who had killed someone...

"Gay" is being sexual attracted to the same sex. I think it's entirely possible to perform a sexual act with the same sex without necessarily being sexually attracted to the same sex.

Nope I reject this definition gay is someone who has sexual acts with the same sex. Attraction does not matter much.

 

[evilchumlee]

Nope I reject this definition gay is someone who has sexual acts with the same sex. Attraction does not matter much.

I guess we can just leave it there then, as we're no longer speaking the same language. Gay is, literally in the English language, being sexually attracted to the same sex.

The act is what is largely irrelevant. Surely preforming a same sex sex act would put one somewhere on the spectrum, but reality is more nuanced than a simple "on/off" switch.

 

[DarthOne]

Good run down of the situation with the shooters manifesto.

 

[Ixian]

That's kind of the point. Sexuality is more complex than that. I know the conservative mind only understand everything in binary black and white, but most things have more nuance.

Alot of these people who are otherwise straight men go after boys. To a pedophile, it generally doesn't matter if it's a boy or a girl. It matters that they have access, and it's a child. It's a fucked up, demented sexuality. Pedo's are opportunistic predators, they go after what they can get.

It's "gay", sure. But i'm not sure doing one same-sex act makes one "gay" as a whole, especially in the context of pedophilia where the gender is often irrelevant to the pedo.

Alot of pedophiles are gay, sure. Alot of pedophiles are straight, as well. There is no actual evidence that suggests gay people are any more likely to be pedophiles than anyone else. It's just... facts. I get it, we don't like gay people here, but we shouldn't just ignore reality.

I have zero issues with gay people, I'm bisexual myself.

I do have an issue with people who downplay the sheer number of gay people that are in fact pedophiles.

News flash, pedophilia isn't a sexual orientation. It is a mental illness and crime. Like, holy fuck, being a pedophile doesn't override your sexual orientation, because it isn't a sexual orientation itself.

 

[evilchumlee]

News flash, pedophilia isn't a sexual orientation. It is a mental illness and crime.

It's all three of those things.