Transgender Rights

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Yeah except both options just result in a bunch of hags bitching about 'why won't men give me infinite free attention anymore?'. Lovely. X_X
Because it's common knowledge that women deserve to get free shit by mere virtue of existing.

Hate to say it but Sink or swim. Either don't give them or enable them and live with the consequences. I don't agree with Shipmaster on a lot of things, but I'll sort of use one of his arguments here. Your choice of bedfellows is not a democracy, you choose those you enable under most circumstances.

Most of the pretenders came about because nerds thought they could pull a Frankenstein or a Pygmalion and "Remake them in their image" as proper "geek girls" in spite of all of the red flags screaming the contrary. It would be like if a Top G (Andrew Tate Fan) or a crypto bro thought they'd be able to win me over if they appeased me just enough, despite the fact I have openly made it clear I think both Andrew Tate and Crypto Bros are a prime example of the degradation of society that prey on the feelings of hopelessness that exist within the week of vulnerable. No amount of appeasement or external pressure is going to sway someone whose convictions are that strong. That person is going to have to come around on their own accord and the person wanting to have someone like them would be better off finding someone who already has a similar interest to what they do or someone who is far more receptive.

Most nerds for whatever reason were not carefully observant of the red flags and now many of them have been left embittered and broken as a result on top of some of them already being somewhat broken to begin with.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Hate to say it but Sink or swim. Either don't give them or enable them and live with the consequences. I don't agree with Shipmaster on a lot of things, but I'll sort of use one of his arguments here. Your choice of bedfellows is not a democracy, you choose those you enable under most circumstances.

Eh? The fact that individuals have virtually no power on their own means you cannot choose to enable who you want.
Who cares that I don't donate to E-thots, there's endless zombies who are willing to do it on my behalf, and then some.
But the only way you can make change is to make your position clear and explain why it works. My point is that women are going to bitch either way, so you might as well go all the way instead of half-assing it.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Eh? The fact that individuals have virtually no power on their own means you cannot choose to enable who you want.

that mentality is dangerous. You have power and agency to somebody somewhere. To say you have no power is to essentially say you could die tomorrow and be thrown in a ditch and no one will miss you, that you are worthless and can be easily replaced, just an NPC. Are you an NPC? IF you are an NPC then what are you even doing here?

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

that mentality is dangerous. You have power and agency to somebody somewhere. To say you have no power is to essentially say you could die tomorrow and be thrown in a ditch and no one will miss you, that you are worthless and can be easily replaced, just an NPC. Are you an NPC? IF you are an NPC then what are you even doing here?

Mate, just because truths can be uncomfortable, doesn't mean you should ignore them. If anything it just means you should be realistic and make realistic decisions instead of fanciful ones.

To put it another way, how would 'you' solve the great 'female problem'? How would 'you' get them out of male spaces?
Because you as an individual are up against about 50% of the population, plus another 20% of the males, and 90% of the Governments.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

To put it another way, how would 'you' solve the great 'female problem'? How would 'you' get them out of male spaces?

I can't save the world. I'm not going to entertain that I can and I'm not going to try. Let the world save itself if it has the will or let it sink. I'm going to do what's best for me and my own, my friends, and those I meet face to face, and I'll be darned if I let some nameless hoards dictate how much I enjoy life. They can try to ruin my hobbies, take my job, heck they can take my freedom in the "merican" sense, but short of killing me, they cannot take away one important thing.

"I THINK THEREFORE I AM."

and if they do take that away from me via nanomachines or whatever. then...I'm dead so what does it matter anyway? If so many here on the sietch thinks it's up to the right to save the world....it explains so much.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

but short of killing me, they cannot take away one important thing.

I THINK THEREFORE I AM.

Heheheh, lobotomy goes brrrrrrr!

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Heheheh, lobotomy goes brrrrrrr!

Uh dude.

and if they do take that away from me via nanomachines or whatever. then...I'm dead so what does it matter anyway? If so many here on the sietch thinks it's up to the right to save the world....it explains so much.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Uh dude.

You wouldn't be dead. ;D

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

You wouldn't be dead. ;D

I'd be dead in the ways that matter. Seriously dude you're not doing some sort of gotcha.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

The Internet was never going to be "neutral", and you're naive to ever think so.

I beg to differ, it used to be. If it once was. It can always be.
I hate the notion that just because something has changed, means it must remain in it's inferior altered state. That's the opposite of progression, it's stagnation.

 

[Jormungandr]

I beg to differ, it used to be. If it once was. It can always be.
I hate the notion that just because something has changed, means it must remain in it's inferior altered state. That's the opposite of progression, it's stagnation.

Like many infant technologies, which it (the Internet) was in the 90's and early 00's, women being 304's wasn't as widespread as it is today because it was a) still being adopted by mainstream society and b) still a lot cruder. That, and society actually looked down on sex work back then, and sexual activity between partners was, ya know, kept between partners, even in electronic format.

But all of it still existed, as it had during other forms of media such as print, telephones, et cetera -- it was just out of sight for most users and was not mainstream compared to today's world, so it didn't affect them. That's where your perception of the early Internet being neutral comes from, I think.

Sex chat rooms existed. Sending porn existed. Even basic sex VoIP existed for sex chatting.

With the Internet maturing and social-media becoming a thing, it just brought all of this to the surface and encouraged more and more women to be 304's, so it spread like bacteria on moulding bread. It was basically inevitable.

Was the early Internet better in terms of culture and such, despite its technological crudeness? I'd have to say yes. Was all the sex stuff still there but hidden away? Also yes.

 

[LordsFire]

Like many infant technologies, which it (the Internet) was in the 90's and early 00's, women being 304's wasn't as widespread as it is today because it was a) still being adopted by mainstream society and b) still a lot cruder. That, and society actually looked down on sex work back then, and sexual activity between partners was, ya know, kept between partners, even in electronic format.

But all of it still existed, as it had during other forms of media such as print, telephones, et cetera -- it was just out of sight for most users and was not mainstream compared to today's world, so it didn't affect them. That's where your perception of the early Internet being neutral comes from, I think.

Sex chat rooms existed. Sending porn existed. Even basic sex VoIP existed for sex chatting.

With the Internet maturing and social-media becoming a thing, it just brought all of this to the surface and encouraged more and more women to be 304's, so it spread like bacteria on moulding bread. It was basically inevitable.

Was the early Internet better in terms of culture and such, despite its technological crudeness? I'd have to say yes. Was all the sex stuff still there but hidden away? Also yes.

This fits pretty well with what I remember of that time period.

As another element, it absolutely is still possible to go to parts of the internet not overrun with THOTs; for all their other political nonsense, Spacebattles is actually a good example of this. It's an entirely text-based interaction platform, so attention whores just don't bother going there.

Any social media that inherently integrates regular image posting is probably a lost cause though.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

This fits pretty well with what I remember of that time period.

As another element, it absolutely is still possible to go to parts of the internet not overrun with THOTs; for all their other political nonsense, Spacebattles is actually a good example of this. It's an entirely text-based interaction platform, so attention whores just don't bother going there.

Any social media that inherently integrates regular image posting is probably a lost cause though.

Spacebattles has pronouns in your face. You would be shocked on how many simps there are who treat "She/Her" as something that must be worshipped.

I actually know SB'ers who pretended to be women on the site, who have stated they were treated much nicer when they had dumb anime girl avatars and pretended to be female.

 

[LordsFire]

Spacebattles has pronouns in your face. You would be shocked on how many simps there are who treat "She/Her" as something that must be worshipped.

I actually know SB'ers who pretended to be women on the site, who have stated they were treated much nicer when they had dumb anime girl avatars and pretended to be female.

This doesn't change the fact that it isn't a website where pretty girls are able to use their looks to defraud foolish boys and men of their money, time, and futures.

I suppose I should add some specificity to my statement: 'Looks-based attention whores' don't bother going there.

I can think of a few attention whores and drama queens on the site; they're not girls using their looks to manipulate and destroy men though.

 

[mandragon]

Women wanting attention and men fawning over their looks for their own personal gains have been prevalent in every piece of media since time began -- even graffiti back in ancient Roman and Egyptian times.

The Internet, and by extension the soc-med boom in the late 00's, is just the most recent iteration of this trend, and one where they can expand their attention-seeking to its fullest extent because of how capable it is.

The Internet was never going to be "neutral", and you're naive to ever think so.
EDIT:

Yeah, we need men's only gyms back.

On the plus side, this attention-seeking 304 got herself banned. She ain't coming back.

Well before Egypt we have cave paintings of tits.

 

[Typhonis]

Porn comes from a Roman word, I think, that translates to 'looking at pictures of prostitutes.'

 

[Buba]

Well before Egypt we have cave paintings of tits.

I find your post immature, as the word is spelt b00bies.

Porn comes from a Roman word, I think, that translates to 'looking at pictures of prostitutes.'

No, it comes from the Elves. Galdriel's husband was known as Teleporno, because ... well, you know ...

Was not the word for sex workers "lupa" i.e. she-wolf, in Latin? Hence lupanar for "shewolfden", i.e. brothel?

 

[Ixian]

Feminists don't represent all women or even tye majority despite their claims to the contrary. These freaks are a threat to all women and shouldn't exist

Would you kindly point out where I said all feminists were women? Turns out their are plenty of idiot men who are part of that misandrist ideology as well.

 

[Captain X]

Since when did the internet of the '90s and early 2000s not have open and obvious porn everywhere? One of the reasons Google got so big was because their search engine looked at the actual content of pages instead of looking at the meta tags put in the header by the person who made the web pages (because there was a certain amount of trust there in the beginning) and the porn peddlers would just fill up their meta tags with all kinds of random shit just to appear in more search results. The fact search engines stopped doing that is one of the few improvements the nu-internet has. I mean, I have nostalgia for the old internet, too, but that's mainly over the lack of censorship and how easy it was to make your own website if you learned even basic HTML.

Anyway, getting off topic I suppose...

 

[Rocinante]

Since when did the internet of the '90s and early 2000s not have open and obvious porn everywhere? One of the reasons Google got so big was because their search engine looked at the actual content of pages instead of looking at the meta tags put in the header by the person who made the web pages (because there was a certain amount of trust there in the beginning) and the porn peddlers would just fill up their meta tags with all kinds of random shit just to appear in more search results. The fact search engines stopped doing that is one of the few improvements the nu-internet has. I mean, I have nostalgia for the old internet, too, but that's mainly over the lack of censorship and how easy it was to make your own website if you learned even basic HTML.

Anyway, getting off topic I suppose...

Oh the internet of the 90s was a wonderful thing.

Looking up information on the white house? Porn.

Looking up pictures of Bigfoot? Also porn.

These are just two of them that i remember bejng famous. You'd find porn by accident ALL THE TIME. Lol