Transgender Rights

[Blasterbot]

In other cases, however, hydro is an environmental disaster. And it usually destroys precisely the most fertile land available.

So we have a choice between bird genocide machines, land destruction and... nuclear energy. I know what I would choose.

pretty much all the green energy things can work. in some limited areas. geothermal works great if you are in the right spot. solar? can work if you have reliable sunny days most of the year and a way to store that energy or have a backup for the evenings or cloudy days. wind? if you are in the right areas that have consistent winds that don't regularly get too intense and cause damage to the machine works fine. just like solar on some days you are on a reserve or backup system if you want to make it work. Tidal actually works fine too. just don't expect massive returns from it. Hydro? depends on very local conditions and in a fair number of cases where it is good we have already built there.

I agree that nuclear is the best option right now if people are serious about wanting to reduce greenhouse gases. the fact that so many who claim to want that refuse nuclear energy is a significant part of why I can't take them seriously. I get people who say even if it isn't there yet if we invest enough into the technology it will get there eventually. very few give ground when I bring up that Nuclear power would be great to reduce the emissions now and buy time for that technology they want to bet the farm on to catch up to their dreams.

 

[Aldarion]

pretty much all the green energy things can work. in some limited areas. geothermal works great if you are in the right spot. solar? can work if you have reliable sunny days most of the year and a way to store that energy or have a backup for the evenings or cloudy days. wind? if you are in the right areas that have consistent winds that don't regularly get too intense and cause damage to the machine works fine. just like solar on some days you are on a reserve or backup system if you want to make it work. Tidal actually works fine too. just don't expect massive returns from it. Hydro? depends on very local conditions and in a fair number of cases where it is good we have already built there.

I agree that nuclear is the best option right now if people are serious about wanting to reduce greenhouse gases. the fact that so many who claim to want that refuse nuclear energy is a significant part of why I can't take them seriously. I get people who say even if it isn't there yet if we invest enough into the technology it will get there eventually. very few give ground when I bring up that Nuclear power would be great to reduce the emissions now and buy time for that technology they want to bet the farm on to catch up to their dreams.

Problem is that all the "green" solutions are extremely temporally and/or geographically limited.

Geothermal? You need the ents.
Solar? As you said, you need sunny days.
Wind? Strong winds.
Tidal? Depends on geography.
Hydro? Depends on geography, and also mostly utilized already.

And except for the hydro, none of them can store the excess energy generated and release it on demand. Battery stacks required to do so would be absolutely massive, and procuring all the materials for them an ecological disaster on its own.

As a result, they can work only as secondary / backup sources of energy. For now at least - and I have hard time seeing how that will change - nuclear energy is the only reliable non-fossil source of energy.

And it is also debatable how green some of these really are. Solar panels contain significant amounts of toxic metals and other toxic materials. These get released into environment when panels break - and they break often. Wind turbines are basically dedicated bird genocide machines. Dams also affect environment, and I really don't think we have space for many more significant dams.

 

[Blasterbot]

Problem is that all the "green" solutions are extremely temporally and/or geographically limited.

Geothermal? You need the ents.
Solar? As you said, you need sunny days.
Wind? Strong winds.
Tidal? Depends on geography.
Hydro? Depends on geography, and also mostly utilized already.

And except for the hydro, none of them can store the excess energy generated and release it on demand. Battery stacks required to do so would be absolutely massive, and procuring all the materials for them an ecological disaster on its own.

As a result, they can work only as secondary / backup sources of energy. For now at least - and I have hard time seeing how that will change - nuclear energy is the only reliable non-fossil source of energy.

And it is also debatable how green some of these really are. Solar panels contain significant amounts of toxic metals and other toxic materials. These get released into environment when panels break - and they break often. Wind turbines are basically dedicated bird genocide machines. Dams also affect environment, and I really don't think we have space for many more significant dams.

agreed they all as they stand tend to be only good for limited/supplemental energy production. some are better than others and all are very dependent on location. is why I think greens who just yell "MOAR WIND AND SOLAR" don't know shit about it. I don't know a whole lot about it either. I just know that they all got their own limiting factors and throwing money at them won't solve them.

 

[Jormungandr]

Green options require niche areas. They're all dependant on having the right conditions in an area e.g. Iceland with its geothermal, Norway and the UK with tidal, countries with desert areas for solar, et cetera.

Nuclear? All you need is a body of water nearby for cooling. Hell, you could build one in the middle of a fucking desert, so long as you had massive cooling tanks filled underneath somewhere.

Nuclear waste? We can reprocess that shit back into fuel. We've been able to do that for decades, despite the Greens' bullshit saying otherwise.

"It's a finite resource, though!" When you "only" have enough that's the size of a small mountain, and when you only need like a few pounds for... what, a hundred years of power-generation? Yeah, nuclear material being "finite resources" mean fuck all.

But this is the trans-trender thread.

 

[Aldarion]

But this is the trans-trender thread.

Any possibility Left would start fighting for rights of trans-nuclear powerplants self-identifying as solar windmills?

 

[Jormungandr]

Any possibility Left would start fighting for rights of trans-nuclear powerplants self-identifying as solar windmills?

Okay, that actually made me openly laugh.

Here's your deserved Like, good sir!

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Problem is that all the "green" solutions are extremely temporally and/or geographically limited.

Geothermal? You need the ents.
Solar? As you said, you need sunny days.
Wind? Strong winds.
Tidal? Depends on geography.
Hydro? Depends on geography, and also mostly utilized already.

And except for the hydro, none of them can store the excess energy generated and release it on demand. Battery stacks required to do so would be absolutely massive, and procuring all the materials for them an ecological disaster on its own.

As a result, they can work only as secondary / backup sources of energy. For now at least - and I have hard time seeing how that will change - nuclear energy is the only reliable non-fossil source of energy.

And it is also debatable how green some of these really are. Solar panels contain significant amounts of toxic metals and other toxic materials. These get released into environment when panels break - and they break often. Wind turbines are basically dedicated bird genocide machines. Dams also affect environment, and I really don't think we have space for many more significant dams.

This is off topic but it needs to be said. The oil industry is the number one group who funds green movements and there is a reason for that. They know all these "green" solutions are an impractical waste of time. Nuclear energy on the other hand is a realistic solution that genuinely poses a threat to the oil and coal industries. In short the greens are a bunch of dumbasses who if they did the smallest amount of research would be demanding a shift to nuclear energy. There are also some other factors in that it would create a bunch of potential weapons grade material but we are gonna have o get over that sooner rather than later.

 

[Captain X]

As long as we need to make steel, there is need for coal. And unless someone makes a much better battery, nuclear would be no threat either.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

As long as we need to make steel, there is need for coal. And unless someone makes a much better battery, nuclear would be no threat either.

People aren't using the coal powered electric cars to make steel though, they're using em to drive.
You can cut down massively on particulate pollution and emissions if you only use the coal for stuff you 'have' to use it on. As you said, like steel.

 

[Agent23]

As long as we need to make steel, there is need for coal. And unless someone makes a much better battery, nuclear would be no threat either.

Or you can increase "baseload" production and sell the diffidence cheaply.
Crypto miners for example, will love that, as will cloud providers that sell spot capacity.

Energy is life, we will find a way to use the excess generated by from nuclear.

For transportation you could just use more metro, rail and make the Trolleybus great again, maybe by improving the trolley polls and adding some capacitors so that a few minutes of disconnect will not force it to stop.

Places that have nice, flat geography, and wide, straight streets can benefit a lot.

And there is hydrogen, too, just crack water and store it the way you store natural gas, maybe even use the same infrastructure.
Hell, use it to ferment waste into biogas faster.

That does not mean that oil will go away anytime soon.

 

[bintananth]

And there is hydrogen, too, just crack water and store it the way you store natural gas, maybe even use the same infrastructure.

Store hydrogen the way we store natural gas? Ha, that's a good laugh. Keeping hydrogen liquid means 20K or colder.

It also leaks through damn near everything so the industries which do use bulk quantities of hydrogen generally aren't going to keep large amounts of it sitting around in storage.

But anyways, this is the Transgender Rights Thread. Can we please get back on topic?

 

[Agent23]

Store hydrogen the way we store natural gas? Ha, that's a good laugh. Keeping hydrogen liquid means 20K or colder.

It also leaks through damn near everything so the industries which do use bulk quantities of hydrogen generally aren't going to keep large amounts of it sitting around in storage.

But anyways, this is the Transgender Rights Thread. Can we please get back on topic?

Do we keep natural gas in a liquid state?

I don't think so, and LNG needs to be cooled to around -170 degrees celsius IIRRC.

But the preassurized bottles and cisterns used for backup power generation and cooking and cleaning aren't vernier flasks, either.

 

[Abhorsen]

A video from a detransitioner:

 

[Carrot of Truth]

A video from a detransitioner:

That shit is depressing, So many are irreversibly fucking their bodies up and likely shortening their lives. The fact that this is being encouraged by certain parties is utter insanity.

 

[Abhorsen]

That shit is depressing, So many are irreversibly fucking their bodies up and likely shortening their lives. The fact that this is being encouraged by certain parties is utter insanity.

See, the thing was, that was a 'happy' video. Yes, shit can happen, but she recognized that this shit happened, and ultimately got through it and feels that life is still worth living. There is hope even in the saddest circumstances.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Florida Judge Blocks Trans Ban: 5 Scathing Remarks That Will Be Cited Everywhere

A massive legal victory emerged out of Florida this morning. In a scathing rebuke, Florida Judge Hinkle used legislators own statements against them and partially blocked the trans care ban there.

www.erininthemorning.com

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Florida Judge Blocks Trans Ban: 5 Scathing Remarks That Will Be Cited Everywhere

A massive legal victory emerged out of Florida this morning. In a scathing rebuke, Florida Judge Hinkle used legislators own statements against them and partially blocked the trans care ban there.

www.erininthemorning.com

Think it's time to start ignoring the Federal government and question its legitimacy.

 

[Agent23]

That shit is depressing, So many are irreversibly fucking their bodies up and likely shortening their lives. The fact that this is being encouraged by certain parties is utter insanity.

Eugenics and population control.

I am fine with adults doing this shit, because it reduces the numbers of idiots in the gene pool and the planet.

But children?

Fuck no.

 

[DarthOne]

Eugenics and population control.

I am fine with adults doing this shit, because it reduces the numbers of idiots in the gene pool and the planet.

I’m not. Because it’s how we got into this sick mess. No man or woman is an island and allowing this nonsense has sickened society.

 

[Bear Ribs]

How it started:

‘A travesty’: Outrage swells over York Catholic board’s rejection of Pride flag

Education minister Stephen Lecce said Tuesday he is disappointed by YCDSB’s vote not to fly the flag at its head office in Aurora, but stopped short of ordering the board to do so.

www.thestar.com

Kids decided to protest a Catholic school supporting Catholicism and were utterly horrified at the results.



Dang these kids are fragile. "They were looking at us and judging us?" "It was violent, people threw pride bracelets in the street." "They were more harassing us than supporting us?" A girl is crying over a rubber band thrown at her head?

And now they feel they aren't safe.

York Catholic District Board students 'deserve to be safe' after alleged violence erupts at LGBTQ2S+ walkout

Students attending York Catholic District School Board (YCDSB) schools are calling on the board to help make LGBTQ2S+ students and staff feel safer at school, after peaceful demonstrations were met with violence last week.

www.cp24.com

YCDSB Students for Change said St. Brother Andre saw "some of the worst forms of hate ever seen in the YCDSB."

I wish I went to a school so safe that "Looking at us and judging us" and dancing on a flag was the worst form of hate ever seen.