Business & Finance TikTok Thread

Shipmaster Sane

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Why do you want to see Tiktok "gutted"?
Chinese cyberpunk espionage corporations are bad.

The worst interests of those in power in China are the best interests of every free and decent person (or those who wish to be) on this planet. Even if nothing else bad news for China is cause for celebration.

TikTok isn't much worse than Vine or YouTube. It has a younger demographic so it is a lot louder and dumber, but as a platform is doesn't seem especially bad.

I don't think what China is doing with Tiktok is substantially worse than the way metadata is freely turned over to the Five eyes by Apple, Google, and their ilk.
China is ultimately worse than apple, google, and their ilk. They're bad, China is worse.


I don't think it is a meaningful improvement. We're still being spied on continuously. All this does is cut one avenue one power used to gather data. The space left behind by removing Tiktok is going to be filled by somebody else. All this does is shuffle around the pieces.
Shuffle around pieces enough and you solve the puzzle.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
How many damn times do I have to tell yall, We are not spying on you in any way.
If the companies do that is them, unless we have a warrant is the only way
After Snowden, I don't think you are going to see many people buy that anymore.

And the way intel assets were abused during Crossfire Hurricane to try to smear Trump doesn't help your case either.
 

Zachowon

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After Snowden, I don't think you are going to see many people buy that anymore.

And the way intel assets were abused during Crossfire Hurricane to try to smear Trump doesn't help your case either.
Why does anyone trust Snowden when he literally knows very little....
How little? I cant say.
Of course you'd say that.
Of course I would 😁

But in seriousness we do not spy on US persons without a warrant, and the FBI or DOJ or DHS supervising for their needs.
 

Rocinante

Russian Bot
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After Snowden, I don't think you are going to see many people buy that anymore.

And the way intel assets were abused during Crossfire Hurricane to try to smear Trump doesn't help your case either.
And as Snowden pointed out recently, they'll never really stop. They stop doing one thing when busted and then move on to another.

Snowden exposed the wire tapping. It's more likely they've moved on to data collection.

After what Snowden exposed, if you don't think they're spying on us, you're delusional. They had hundreds of millions of phone records. He didn't expose some small operations. Let's not forget how big what he exposed actually was.

Does anyone really think they've changed? "Oh man Snowden was right, we should totally change our ways"
 

Zachowon

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And as Snowden pointed out recently, they'll never really stop. They stop doing one thing when busted and then move on to another.

Snowden exposed the wire tapping. It's more likely they've moved on to data collection.

After what Snowden exposed, if you don't think they're spying on us, you're delusional. They had hundreds of millions of phone records. He didn't expose some small operations. Let's not forget how big what he exposed actually was.

Does anyone really think they've changed? "Oh man Snowden was right, we should totally change our ways"
The dude literally knew nothing about what he "Claimed" to know.

Sadly I can not do anything else to defend my point but whine and complain because it is still all classified
 

Zachowon

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Understandable that you may not be able to discuss it, but the documents speak for themselves, and we know what the NSA was up to, spying on millions of Americans.

It makes sense not to trust them after they've violated our trust so brazenly.
When there is a whole part of what was going on that they can not tell you because it will actively ruin a lot of necessary stuff...
Plus I literally work with people who were in the same time he was in, the NSA that is.
 

Zachowon

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I don't know that I really buy this. I mean the TikTok and the Chinese government is worse than Google and Apple, sure. But Apple and Google plus the surveillance states in the US and Europe are about comparable and are the ones I actually have to interact with.
No. Because unlike the US and Europe, we wont arrest you for speaking your mind like China does or use it to steal your data and use it for further evil schemes
 

Shipmaster Sane

You have been weighed
I don't know that I really buy this. I mean the TikTok and the Chinese government is worse than Google and Apple, sure. But Apple and Google plus the surveillance states in the US and Europe are about comparable and are the ones I actually have to interact with.
Only one of them murdered a hundred million people.
 

worm that walks

Sexual Bolshevik
No. Because unlike the US and Europe, we wont arrest you for speaking your mind like China does or use it to steal your data and use it for further evil schemes
Only one of them murdered a hundred million people.
I don't know how aware y'all are of the history of the US and European colonial powers, but... their ain't as much difference as you are imagining.
 

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