Business & Finance TikTok Thread

Zachowon

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I don't know how aware y'all are of the history of the US and European colonial powers, but... their ain't as much difference as you are imagining.
I dont think you are aware of how miniscule the numbers of deaths America has caused that could be considered what the CCP did.
Like..
There was good reason for they the colonial powers dod what they did.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
I dont think you are aware of how miniscule the numbers of deaths America has caused that could be considered what the CCP did.
Like..
There was good reason for they the colonial powers dod what they did.

Not always even remotely close to true. Even then, with all the nasty things that happened under Colonialism, these days it's fashionable to grossly exaggerate those crimes, and minimize crimes committed by others, particularly communists.

Only what happened in Congo remotely approaches the level of horror of what Communists accomplished, and even then it's generally only the highest estimates that can approach the lowest estimates of what happened under Stalin and Mao.
 

Zachowon

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Not always even remotely close to true. Even then, with all the nasty things that happened under Colonialism, these days it's fashionable to grossly exaggerate those crimes, and minimize crimes committed by others, particularly communists.

Only what happened in Congo remotely approaches the level of horror of what Communists accomplished, and even then it's generally only the highest estimates that can approach the lowest estimates of what happened under Stalin and Mao.
It is a favorite of "LOOK WE DID BAD TOO!" to try and make Communism look good
 

Shipmaster Sane

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I don't know how aware y'all are of the history of the US and European colonial powers, but... their ain't as much difference as you are imagining.
There were not even 100 million indians to kill, and if you think comparing the actions of the american and pre-american governement from hundreds of years ago to now is even remotely comparable to comparing the actions of the Chinese government to itself from well inside of one century, I dont know what to tell you besides that's ridiculous.

Iterations of the American government have committed offenses against groups of people, at a tremendously smaller scale than China, the vast majority of which are further generationally removed from the present day.
 

worm that walks

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There were not even 100 million indians to kill, and if you think comparing the actions of the american and pre-american governement from hundreds of years ago to now is even remotely comparable to comparing the actions of the Chinese government to itself from well inside of one century, I dont know what to tell you besides that's ridiculous.

Iterations of the American government have committed offenses against groups of people, at a tremendously smaller scale than China, the vast majority of which are further generationally removed from the present day.
There were like, 400 million Indians when the famines under the British Empire occurred and that was less than a century ago, so I'm not sure where you're getting your data.
 

LordsFire

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Ah that makes more sense.

I mean the US was still committing genocide. The fact it was on people already reduced to a fraction of their original numbers by plague doesn't really make it better.

'Genocide' in the sense that almost everybody understands the term to be, IE trying to exterminate an ethnic group, or 'genocide' in the 'technically correct but almost nobody will think you mean this' sense that means 'trying to destroy the culture of a society.'

Because there were certainly attempts to destroy the cultures of some Indian tribes. Attempts to systematically exterminate the people? That I've not seen or heard of.

The USA certainly committed a number of wrongs in its interactions with some of the native tribes. Some of them were even fairly horrific. Not a one even approached butchering millions, and deliberately starving to death millions more.

They're also generally accepted and understood to be bad things at this point. People are still trying to whitewash what communism and atheism have wrought.
 

Shipmaster Sane

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I'm saying bragging that your mass murder is smaller is a pretty pathetic grounds for claiming moral superiority.
Ah so we're conflating what I actually said, which was "China is worse" with a strawman, got it.

And we're still ignoring the temporal difference (because there absolutely is a difference between the level of modern continuity and culpability when comparing china's government from one generation ago and America's government from several hundred years ago), and the fact that America has broadly condemned the abusive actions of it's past, where as China gleefully celebrates theirs, which are several orders of magnitude greater in scale.
 

Husky_Khan

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The TikTok Deadline Saga has been pushed back into December after the Trump Administration told the company they had 90 days to find a new buyer back in August.


Looks like the fate of this company and its potential deal with Oracle/Wal-Mart may fall under the auspices of the Biden Administration if they get inaugurated.
 

Husky_Khan

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And TIKTOK is back baby!!! Biden has dropped Trumps executive order intended to prevent new downloads of the Chinese owned TikTok and WeChat apps in America.


Though Biden did order a Commerce Department Security review.
 

Rocinante

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And TIKTOK is back baby!!! Biden has dropped Trumps executive order intended to prevent new downloads of the Chinese owned TikTok and WeChat apps in America.


Though Biden did order a Commerce Department Security review.
Tiktok was never gone though
 

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