The War in Afghanistan

ATP

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They are even weaker than India. What can they do?

Not much,but are loyal.And China build harbour on Ceylon,which could made them ally in the future.I read about Thailand and Indonesia becoming more pro -China,too.Althouft they certainly are not loyal allies now.
in Africa they have a lot of infrastructure,but they buyed goverments there,and common people hate them.There are certainly no loyal allies there.
 

Zachowon

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Umm I don’t think you want to say that in a thread on Afghanistan no offense. But if we keep winning like this we will be more than a laughing stock.
Letting the enemy know how we do things makes us ineffective and we love
 

ATP

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One polish writer/Ziemkiewicz,i think/ compared Biden to Kiereński,who destroyed russian army becouse he feared military puth/gen Korniłow really attemted that/
And was completly unaware of fact,that Lenin is planning his own puth - becouse for him there was no enemies on the left,only right.
So,Biden is destroing USA army becouse he is fearing of army puth - when he should be wary of more leftist politician,like Kamala,who would replace him and made USA even more leftist.

We would see if it is true,or not.
 

Terthna

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Letting the enemy know how we do things makes us ineffective and we love
In individual battles, maybe; but we've lost every single war we've been involved in since the second World War, in large part because of that mindset that keeps rejecting the very idea of our government and military being accountable to the American people.
 

Zachowon

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In individual battles, maybe; but we've lost every single war we've been involved in since the second World War, in large part because of that mindset that keeps rejecting the very idea of our government and military being accountable to the American people.
But it has nothing to do with our intel.
 

Bassoe

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In individual battles, maybe; but we've lost every single war we've been involved in since the second World War, in large part because of that mindset that keeps rejecting the very idea of our government and military being accountable to the American people.
All the third world military misadventures we lost have one thing in common, our leaders weren't threatened in them. Compare the cold war, when the soviets openly wanted to kill all the american leaders and had weapons capable of carrying out said threat, meaning the leaders faced an actual threat to themselves, not merely the lives of their pawns and their rules of engagement they okayed then, specifically, 'we are only being prevented from outright genociding you with nuclear weapons because you also have nuclear weapons so if we tried it, we'd both die.'
 

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All the third world military misadventures we lost have one thing in common, our leaders weren't threatened in them. Compare the cold war, when the soviets openly wanted to kill all the american leaders and had weapons capable of carrying out said threat, meaning the leaders faced an actual threat to themselves, not merely the lives of their pawns and their rules of engagement they okayed then, specifically, 'we are only being prevented from outright genociding you with nuclear weapons because you also have nuclear weapons so if we tried it, we'd both die.'
Counterpoint: Vietnam, which was a part of the greater geostrategic maneuvering of the Cold War.
I think this is very indirectly true, because the problem is a bit different - misadventures happen when the political leadership is trying to use military means to achieve obviously non-military objectives, and on top of that highly limit and micromanage the military means. Like the widely identified problem of attempting nation building.
As long as the objective is something like "kill x, destroy y, occupy area z" the US military can do that fine.
In a situation of direct threat, of course it gets much easier for politicians to frame the mission in proper military objectives, while more optional misadventures give them the luxury of being able to screw around with many non-military objectives, restrictions and fancies.
 

Bassoe

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Counterpoint: Vietnam
By getting involved in Vietnam at all, we lost. The average American citizen wouldn't be affected in the slightest regardless of if Vietnam was ran by a leftist Soviet puppet regime or a rightist American one, only if they were legally enslaved by the draft and sent to die in a godforsaken foreign jungle for the whims of neoconservative military planners and profit of military-industry complex megacorporations.
 

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