The War in Afghanistan

King Arts

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You know the way the British are handling the situation is also dumb they are trying to get everyone out. In the SB thread someone said that the British were told don’t count how many people there are just get them out.

I am not completely heartless women and children I could accept as refugees, but when you look at that picture of a plane stuffed full of people 75 percent of the people you see are men. Letting in inverted men is not good. Women is a different story.
 

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
The boys are enjoying themselves. :D

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I never realised but they must know about Ice cream Biden and pose to make fun of him.
 

AndrewJTalon

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Why in the fuck will these morons not shut off access to their fucking apps to terrorists?! Are they really that misguided? That stupid? That arrogant?

... Yes. Yes they are.
 

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Guess it was too amusing for Sharia.

Their leaders who saw that must have scolded them and decreed it haram.

Why in the fuck will these morons not shut off access to their fucking apps to terrorists?! Are they really that misguided? That stupid? That arrogant?

... Yes. Yes they are.
Even fucking warlords know they can shut down communications so the plebs can't organise easily.
 

DarthOne

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U.S. forces can’t help Americans flee to Kabul airport, Pentagon chief says


KEY POINTS
  • The Pentagon acknowledged that it does not currently have the capability to safely escort Americans in Kabul to the airport for evacuation.
  • The Defense secretary’s admission comes after the U.S. Embassy in Kabul issued a dire warning to U.S. citizens there stating that it “cannot ensure safe passage” to the airport.
  • The U.S. is currently relying an agreement with the Taliban to guarantee the safe passage of Americans.

Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin speaks during a media briefing at the Pentagon, Wednesday, Aug. 18, 2021, in Washington.
Alex Brandon | AP

WASHINGTON – The Pentagon on Wednesday acknowledged that it does not currently have the capability to safely escort Americans in Kabul to the airport for evacuation as the Taliban consolidate control in Afghanistan’s capital.

“I don’t have the capability to go out and extend operations currently into Kabul,” Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said when asked about those who cannot reach the gates of Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul because they are behind Taliban


“And where do you take that? How far can you extend into Kabul and how long does it take to flow those forces in to be able to do that,” Austin said.

The Defense secretary’s admission comes after the U.S. Embassy in Kabul issued a dire warning to U.S. citizens there stating that it “cannot ensure safe passage” to the airport.

The U.S. is relying on an agreement with the Taliban to guarantee the safe passage of Americans. Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman said earlier Wednesday that “it appears that the Taliban’s commitment for safe passage for Americans has been solid,” while noting she doesn’t know “every case.”

Austin vowed that the U.S. is “going to evacuate everybody that we can physically and possibly evacuate and we’ll conduct this process for as long as we possibly can.” The Pentagon chief said the U.S. is coordinating with the Taliban to create passageways for people to get to the airfield.

U.S. Army Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters the airport is currently secure with nearly 5,000 U.S. troops on the ground and the Taliban “are not interfering with our operations.” However, the situation “is still volatile and can change quickly,” Milley said.


“There are threats we are closely monitoring and if at any moment we can identify a specific threat we will take immediate military action without any hesitation in accordance with our rules of engagement. The Taliban and every other organization in that country knows it,” the general said.

“We are the United States military, and we will successfully evacuate all American citizens who want to get out of Afghanistan. They are our priority No. 1,” Milley said alongside Austin.

The general, when asked about extracting people behind Taliban lines with troops, said the military has the “capability to do other things if necessary,” but said executing such an option is a “policy decision.”

“In addition, we intend to evacuate those who have been supporting us for years, and we are not going to leave them behind. And we will get as many out as possible,” Milley added.

In a letter, Senators Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) and Mitt Romney (R-UT) urged the U.S. not to forget journalists and support staff in Afghanistan and to ensure evacuation flights for them continue.

Addressing Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas, the two senators said there are an estimated 200-plus journalists and support staff, with their families, still seeking to evacuate Afghanistan.

The New York Times tweeted late Wednesday night that “our brave colleagues in Afghanistan made it to safety.” The publication said 65 families — or 128 men, women and children — were headed to freedom.

The State Department acknowledged that the Taliban are apparently blocking some Afghans from reaching the airport.
“We have seen reports that the Taliban, contrary to their public statements and their commitments to our government, are blocking Afghans who wish to leave the country from reaching the airport,” Sherman said.

Milley said the Pentagon is currently averaging about 20 sorties of cargo aircraft evacuation flights every 24 hours. Sherman said 2,000 people have been evacuated in that period, and the State Department will soon invite 800 Afghan special immigrant visa holders to board flights to the U.S.
“I did not nor did anyone else see a collapse of any army that size in 11 days.”
U.S. Army Gen. Mark Milley
CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF
The Pentagon confirmed Tuesday that U.S. Central Command chief Marine Corps Gen. Kenneth McKenzie had been in regular contact with Taliban leaders. Pentagon spokesman John Kirby declined to provide further details of those talks. There have yet to be any high-level talks between the Pentagon and the Afghan military since the country’s collapse, Kirby added.
Despite being vastly outnumbered by the Afghan military, which has been assisted by U.S. and NATO coalition forces for the last 20 years, the Taliban entered Kabul on Sunday.

Within hours, Taliban insurgents seized the presidential palace in a stunning development that saw the exodus of now-deposed Afghan President Ashraf Ghani. On Wednesday, the United Arab Emirates confirmed that Ghani was living in exile within the kingdom.


In separate news briefings, President Joe Biden and NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg placed the blame squarely on the Afghan national government for the dramatic and swift Taliban takeover.

From the Pentagon, Milley offered his perspective.

Milley said that while some U.S. intelligence assessments had found that an outright Taliban takeover was possible, the timeframe varied from “weeks, months and even years” after the U.S. withdrawal.

“I did not nor did anyone else see a collapse of any army that size in 11 days,” Milley said.


Translation:
Unless we go out and somehow manage to collect the Americans stranded throughout Kabul over the next 24-48 hours, they are going to die.

This is where we are. Biden knows this. The American military leadership knows this. Yet they're too busy trying to save their asses, assign blame and rescue natives that they can bring to America and use to grab votes (either by offering gibs or the threat that the Big Bad GOP will give them back to the Taliban).

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When Pepe is a better negotiator than the actual governments....


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Zachowon

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U.S. forces can’t help Americans flee to Kabul airport, Pentagon chief says





Translation:
Unless we go out and somehow manage to collect the Americans stranded throughout Kabul over the next 24-48 hours, they are going to die.

This is where we are. Biden knows this. The American military leadership knows this. Yet they're too busy trying to save their asses, assign blame and rescue natives that they can bring to America and use to grab votes (either by offering gibs or the threat that the Big Bad GOP will give them back to the Taliban).

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When Pepe is a better negotiator than the actual governments....


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They were basically given strict orders to defend the Airport. Not go into Kabul.
Breaking that could cause fire fights where soldiers and civilians are killed.

My question is, why the fuck would you stay there after the first fuckijg day the military pulled out....
 

SoliFortissimi

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Eh, looks like that whole clown show is over. Good. Now only for the Americans to get themselves out, and we shall see if bribes can do what bombs could not- get the Taliban to behave.
 

Husky_Khan

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Eh, looks like that whole clown show is over. Good. Now only for the Americans to get themselves out, and we shall see if bribes can do what bombs could not- get the Taliban to behave.

Nah the Taliban have given the US til September 11th of this year to ship our asses and assets out of the Kabul Airport.

Our boys and girls will be home by Christmas! (for the most part)
 

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