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eh, my problem is when you have CNN talking to a lady who's been here for 70ish years and needs a translator because she doesn't speak English.

I don't mind people being bilingual. I do mind people not speaking English in America.


It’s one thing to require everyone to speak a single language in a compact national body founded on shares blood. We are Not That, explicitly so, so the laws and customs of each nation loyal to the Republic may be expected to be different. There is more than one America. And some of them are children of Bolivar and Iturbide, not Washington. Some are children of Dekanawidah, and again that is a difference we can bridge, because the fundamental shared concepts of governance, allegiance and purpose are the same.
 
are they though?

several of the recent migrant groups have been showing up waving the flags of their home countries.

I am not really pro immigration, I am pro keeping your own culture and language and traditions. People who show allegiance to a foreign power, however, should never be permitted to immigrate.
 
In a nation made up of many different people’s of a diverse background, having a shared national language is even more important.

We have this myth of assimilation, as though it is a powerful force that always happens to any group which comes into a country. That isn’t true at all. The USA was able to assimilate a number of peoples from various countries, though it didn’t always work. People from white and primarily Christian nations did tend to assimilate, but for others there has been more trouble. We still have China Towns, we still have communities of Hasidic Jews who speak Yiddish, we still have the Amish, we still have a massive cultural and political gulf between white and black America, and in recent decades we have growing Hispanic enclaves in various US states. In Europe, there are ethnic/national groups that have failed to assimilate despite living among another nation for longer than the USA has existed.

So assimilation is hard and takes work, even then it’s hardly a sure thing. It’s especially not a sure thing when one side of the political aisle (the side who also happens to almost completely control the media, entertainment, and education) fights tooth and nail to prevent assimilation and to fan the fires of ethnic division within new arrivals. With immigrants of the past, not only were they more racially and culturally similar to the WASP they were living among, but they had a huge impetus to assimilate. Now, the message that immigrants get isn’t that America is great and that they should assimilate and be a part of of America.

This is the message they get:
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No borders and America was never great. If your home country was poor, it is because of the USA and white oppression, you can come here and get some of the money that is rightfully owed you by white America. Our immigrants, for the most part, don’t want to be Americans and the Americans who have the most influence over immigrants (the left) don’t want them to think of themselves as Americans either.

Leftists may hate White Nationalists, but they do have one major belief in common: they both believe that the USA is a white man’s country and that non-whites (people of color as they say now) aren’t real Americans. Of course, the WN’s think that this is a good trait of America and the SJW’s think that this is a bad trait of America. But the SJW’s have the power now to exacerbate the ethnic and cultural chauvinism of immigrants into a political force that ultimately will bring down the USA when we reach a point where the majority of people living in the USA don’t see themselves as Americans but as a distinct ethnic and/or cultural group at odds with America. That is why this massive wave of immigration is so dangerous, along with the way it is being exploited by the identitarian left. Because as identity politics becomes an increasingly dominant part of the American landscape; issues of rights, economics, defense, and general welfare fall to the wayside - as we already see happening. We especially see this happening within the Democratic Party, where their traditional political values are becoming secondary to identity politics and fomenting hatred and discontent among their coalition of the supposedly oppressed - their scapegoat being white, straight, Christian men.

For America to survive, it must be a nation and not an empire. We must have a shared sense of ourselves as a single people with a common history, common values, and common interests. This is what America must be to survive, this is what every nation must be to survive, and this goal is directly at odds with both the agenda and the consequences of massive and unlimited immigration.
 
So weren't also people from Africa travelling all the way to the US to get in illegally too?
Apparently. I'd heard that left-wing activists went around to, or otherwise communicated with, people in various foreign countries, trying to convince them to make the journey to our boarder with Mexico. Promising that the boarder was open, and everyone would be let in. Never bothered to look it up for myself though, so take it with a grain of salt.
 
It's amazing how both sides and even here exaggerate the fuck out of the problem. The vast majority of people aren't losing their jobs to Mexicans. Though if anyone would like to take some pictures of White fruit pickers working for $3 and hour I'd find that shit hilarious.

No, jobs are being lost because they go everywhere but here, (automation too) countries were everyone works at $3 an hour, and those companies got a wonderful tax break from Trump that only costs us a trillion a year. When I say us I don't include those companies because they still don't pay any taxes in the first place.

I honestly don't give two shits about who is coming in from where, it's a mountain made out of a mole hill thanks to both sides shit slinging and there are far more important things to focus on. It doesn't help that thanks to that shit slinging truth and reason were left behind long ago. Your focusing on the small problem at the bottom when you should be looking at the top, and no I don't mean Trump.
 
Word from The Boot. This is a very blatant Rule 2c and 2e violation, a twofer so to speak. DON'T DO THIS
@Lancelot, that isn't exactly true, given the circumstances. The problem is that the Dixiecrats -traitors every one of them, given that they've been part of the CSA, allied themselves with the Nazis, and now they're buddies with Putin's Russia- are incredibly xenophobic and have been edged on by Russia to cause chaos across the world with other far-right groups.
 
It's amazing how both sides and even here exaggerate the fuck out of the problem. The vast majority of people aren't losing their jobs to Mexicans. Though if anyone would like to take some pictures of White fruit pickers working for $3 and hour I'd find that shit hilarious.
A friend of my parents used to work in construction; I say used to, because the local industry became overrun with Hispanic individuals decades ago, most of whom do not speak English, do terrible (but cheap) work, and are likely for the most part illegal immigrants. He then tried to make money mowing lawns; guess what ethnicity dominates that industry too? "The vast majority of people aren't losing their jobs to Mexicans"; who cares? We're not talking about the "vast majority" here; if anyone is losing their job to an illegal immigrant, whether they're from Mexico, Russia, or South Korea (and I didn't just pull these examples out of the ether; they're all here in my local area), it's still a problem.



Relevant to this thread, posting this to spur discussion only.

I want to say that nobody deserves that, because nobody does, but the irony is downright palpable. Unfortunately, I doubt his fellow activist nutjobs have the self-awareness necessary to recognize it, and will probably keep enabling tragedies like this one.
 
Relevant to this thread, posting this to spur discussion only.

Shit if that isn't a coincidence among the many I saw in my lifetime on the news related to the EU migrant crisis.

RL just loves rolling out death by irony.
 
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If one person can get across the wall then it's a complete waste of time and money.

Who cares about how many people it does stop? If it fails at any point it was proof the Democrats are right and we might as well not even guard the border.

Nuance? Never heard of it. It's either 100% successful or it's 0% worth it.

...as long as it's not a Democrat doing something. Then you have to look at intentions and the bigger picture and such.
 
If one person can get across the wall then it's a complete waste of time and money.

Who cares about how many people it does stop? If it fails at any point it was proof the Democrats are right and we might as well not even guard the border.

Nuance? Never heard of it. It's either 100% successful or it's 0% worth it.

...as long as it's not a Democrat doing something. Then you have to look at intentions and the bigger picture and such.
Any fortification given time and effort will be breached.

If people spend time trying to breach it, that time allows security to detect and catch them instead of chasing them inside the border.
 
@GoldRanger

I saw your profile status to be from Israel and I heard of your wall. I just would like to know when Palestinians breach it do they use power tools?

Usually what I heard involved smuggling tunnels or just firing random missiles over the wall.
 

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