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PsihoKekec

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To work with them on military projects, the establishment still happily handed them the keys to the world economy.

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Slovenian-Israeli upgrade M-55S. Israeli 105 mm L7/51 gun and reactive armor, Slovenian made computer FCS with laser rangefinder and night light amplification. Also new radio, intercom, laser warning suite and meteorological sensor. It gained weight though, decreasing it's mobility.
 
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Aaron Fox

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To work with them on military projects, the establishment still happily handed them the keys to the world economy.
First, they didn't 'give the keys to the world economy', they slotted China into the world economy so they don't get ideas about expansionism. Remember, the "Trade or else" geopolitical doctrine is the major contributor to world peace in general via the 'make the price of trade practically nonexistent' method.
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Slovenian-Israeli upgrade M-55S. Israeli 105 mm L7/51 gun and reactive armor, Slovenian made computer FCS with laser rangefinder and night light amplification. Also new radio, intercom, laser warning suite and meteorological sensor. It gained weight though, decreasing it's mobility.
Not bad, could have some improvements but we're talking a decades-old tank getting serious upgrades that it was never designed for.

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The M5A2 Schwartzkopf from EndWar. It uses a RAVEN (Rarefaction Wave Gun) 20mm on the top, a 120mm smoothbore, a 12.7mm HMG, and a 7.62NATO LMG standard, but can be upgraded with a 40mm metal storm system and a guided MAYHEM round that is labeled HESH. The biggest difference between this tank and the Abrams is that it's half the tonnage and uses nanocomposite armor and a lot of active defense systems (and these systems are effective enough that -in essence- acts like a scifi shield that you have to batter away to actually harm the vehicle or infantry squad).
 

PsihoKekec

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Nope.But that would be soviet army
Exactly, that would be a Soviet army and if you paid attention you would have noticed that their weapons tended to be simpler for maintenance than their Western equivalents. Complexity level of maintenance corresponds to the unit readiness levels, which was very important to Soviet planners, so designers were pressed to do away with unneeded complexities.

Oh and for the other members, when ATP goes on one of his regular derailment rampages it is best to just ignore him and continue debating about the original topic, you cant shake him out of his wehraboo convictions.
 

Zachowon

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Exactly, that would be a Soviet army and if you paid attention you would have noticed that their weapons tended to be simpler for maintenance than their Western equivalents. Complexity level of maintenance corresponds to the unit readiness levels, which was very important to Soviet planners, so designers were pressed to do away with unneeded complexities.

Oh and for the other members, when ATP goes on one of his regular derailment rampages it is best to just ignore him and continue debating about the original topic, you cant shake him out of his wehraboo convictions.
Eh, the Sherman was a great piece of work when it came to ease of maintenance.
 

Tiamat

I've seen the future...
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A tank i have become to know well...
And a tank I have argued with another analyst about.
It is the iconic Russian tank.
And a guy claims it can kill an Abrams

The guy's name wouldn't be Sparks, would it...??

The T-54/55 tanks are kind of like the Energizer Bunny, Soviet style....it keeps going, and going, and going. That said....sending that against any model of the Abrams only works if you want a quick method to turn the T55 into recyclable scrap. No, actually, considering the Soviet's issues with metallurgy, that may be debatable if they're worth scrapping to begin with.
 

Aaron Fox

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The guy's name wouldn't be Sparks, would it...??

The T-54/55 tanks are kind of like the Energizer Bunny, Soviet style....it keeps going, and going, and going. That said....sending that against any model of the Abrams only works if you want a quick method to turn the T55 into recyclable scrap. No, actually, considering the Soviet's issues with metallurgy, that may be debatable if they're worth scrapping to begin with.
Actually, the Soviets were pretty good with their metallurgy. It was the composites that gave them all sorts of trouble (that and electronics). Please note that it was the Soviets that managed to make single-casting titanium sub screws and perfected titanium sub hulls. We actually had to basically operation paperclip the personnel after the USSR collapsed to get a hold of that capability.
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
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The guy's name wouldn't be Sparks, would it...??

The T-54/55 tanks are kind of like the Energizer Bunny, Soviet style....it keeps going, and going, and going. That said....sending that against any model of the Abrams only works if you want a quick method to turn the T55 into recyclable scrap. No, actually, considering the Soviet's issues with metallurgy, that may be debatable if they're worth scrapping to begin with.
A intel guy from a unit higher then mine.
Dude made the argument "If they shot from the side" when talking about out of date North korean ones
 

Marduk

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The guy's name wouldn't be Sparks, would it...??

The T-54/55 tanks are kind of like the Energizer Bunny, Soviet style....it keeps going, and going, and going. That said....sending that against any model of the Abrams only works if you want a quick method to turn the T55 into recyclable scrap. No, actually, considering the Soviet's issues with metallurgy, that may be debatable if they're worth scrapping to begin with.
"Could" is a big word. Any tank with a half decent gun "could" kill an Abrams, or any other modern MBT, if it got the first shot and got a good hit on the side, somehow. The chances of that happening in combat conditions are a different matter though.
 

ShadowArxxy

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It's funny how half of these men would have no idea what to do with a tank if they had one.

It's also remarkable how much Patton's appearance doesn't fit his personality. Neither did his voice, which was actually rather soft and high-pitched -- his habit of using profanity was specifically to compensate for that. George C. Scott really nailed his personality in the movie, but at the same time, Patton only wished that he looked and sounded like that.
 

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