1 It has never seen the Emperor.
2 The Emperor and Primarchs are stars of Psyker force. A TX appearing as the Emperor would fail. It would trigger the Marine to attack the Blasphemy before him.
T-X Terminator vs. random space marine.
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2 The Emperor and Primarchs are stars of Psyker force. A TX appearing as the Emperor would fail. It would trigger the Marine to attack the Blasphemy before him.
Necrons are perhaps the most relevant example.
IIRC, is it necrons or the eldar that primarily use plasma weaponry? That's the T-X's default weapon, which is... sort of underpowered compared to the plasma guns seen in 40k, heh.
Also, I think the very idea/concept of the necrons came from the original Terminator movie's T-800. I mean, if you were watching that movie for the first time, it's a nightmarish shock.
The T-800 rising from the burning wreckage as an endoskeleton is exactly what Cameron saw in his nightmare which inspired the movie itself, apparently.
If "she" plays it smart enough, he'll be the one facing a full-out attack from the military, when attempts by the local police to do something about the guy in a funny suit wandering around a city with a gun fail, while "she" gets evac'd along with all the other civilians.
Eventually if all else fails he'll get hit with a nuke, or a "rod from God".
While Space Marines are tough they are not invincible. If the Army, Air Force or heaven help him the Navy starts chucking at him. Armor or no Armor he is gonna die.
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Key word is playing it safe.
It didn't show that much intelligence in the movie aside for taking control of several early terminators with which it was already compatible since they were built as part of the Skynet project.
A key part of the whole "ruthless killer robot" vibe is the extreme singlemindedness with which a Terminator unit will pursue it's programmed goal. But that has never precluded doing some prep, getting hold of needed equipment, etc.
A TX sent by SkyNet to terminate a Space Marine is certainly going to know enough about the target to understand that just walking up to him and shooting plasma bolts isn't going to work.
Agent23
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It tried that with Connor and his future GF, and Arnie?
A normal human will die to the TX's built-in weaponry.
And it did not initially know that an Arnie (T-850 I think) had been sent back. I think it figured that out after their fight.
Agent23
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I think that skynet should have been aware of the possibility that time travel might have fucked shit up for it in the previous timeline.
After all, very advanced terminator tech was finding its way to the past, and there were the various records of the actions of prior terminators, including what Sarah Connor was saying.
It is also aware of the existence of time travel technology, so either it was dumb enough not to program the T-X with that contingency or the T-X was dumb enough to not plan for it.
Going further, after multiple timelines and Xeelee-style tech uplifts Skynet was still not capable of destroying humanity, despite the nuclear Armageddon that is Judgement day and all of the sweet toys it has access to.
Skynet and by extension all of its proxies are shit tier A.I. IMHO.
And this raises the thorny question of what exactly happens, from SkyNet's own point of view, when it sends a unit back into the past.
It powers up the machine, the robot vanishes, and.. then what? Does it actually remember having done that?
Or does it deduce each time that a previous version of it must have done so?
Assuming that it's actual goal was to make humanity extinct, rather than to enslave humanity for its own benefit. The problem for the AI is that if it values its own continuation, it needs to have the means of maintaining and replacing the hardware on which it depends. Who runs the mines, the factories, the shipping, the processing?
Does it have enough robots to do all that? Does it even know how to do all that?
Agent23
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I think it is canon that Skynet saw humanity as a threat and wanted to exterminate it.Also, I am pretty sure that the terminators and other equipment it made use of were built in automated factories.And this raises the thorny question of what exactly happens, from SkyNet's own point of view, when it sends a unit back into the past.
It powers up the machine, the robot vanishes, and.. then what? Does it actually remember having done that?
Or does it deduce each time that a previous version of it must have done so?
Assuming that it's actual goal was to make humanity extinct, rather than to enslave humanity for its own benefit. The problem for the AI is that if it values its own continuation, it needs to have the means of maintaining and replacing the hardware on which it depends. Who runs the mines, the factories, the shipping, the processing?
Does it have enough robots to do all that? Does it even know how to do all that?
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The machine spirits of the marine's power armor?
Agent23
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And the aftermath of the Abominable Intelligence clusterfuck that kicked off the Age of Strife.
The machine spirit would kill any Terminator stupid enough to try connecting. Those AI have an actual metaphysical component. A soul, with Psychic potential at that. Utterly loyal to the Imperium unless physically compromised by warp shenanigans.
Most Space Marines do not care about casualties of civilians if the emperor's will and the imperium is in danger.
Hahahahahaha.
He would be able to dodge everything but nukes fired at him, and MAYBE tank cannon.
They can see gyrojet bolter rounds coming at them.
The Navy wouldn't be able to hit a man sized target, well "man" sized target that can take the whole known small arms of the world eothout a dent.
Remember, Autoguns are not considered the best weaponry to use against a Soace Marine. Hell, lasers arnt even that effective. .95 cal Bolters are effective, and that is just the weakest generally.
And do remember our mikitary pales in comparison to that of the 40k military.
Saturation strike. Like I said When the Air Force and the Navy stops playing nice it is a scary thing. Everything in a 5 mile radius will be leveled.
You'll need a direct hit with a MOAB or tac Nuke to kill Terminator armor. If he's a Grey Knight you'll need strategic weapons. Those fuckers are all at least low end Alpha class Psykers.