T-X Terminator vs. random space marine.

Agent23

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Ok, you all know the drill.

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VS.

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Both are dropped in the middle of a random modern day city with descriptions of the other and explicit orders to eliminate the enemy.

Scenario 1) Our generic space marine of the marines Generic Chapter has all of his standard wargear.

Scenario 2) The space marine is dropped in without his armor and weapons, but somehow magically his increased size is not being noticed by the locals via act of plot.He also has 20k USD and the addresses of all the local arms dealers.

Fight!
 
Agent23 said:
Ok, you all know the drill.

Space_Marine_by_StationX.jpg


VS.

2000px-Kristanna_TX020.jpg



Both are dropped in the middle of a random modern day city with descriptions of the other and explicit orders to eliminate the enemy.

Scenario 1) Our generic space marine of the marines Generic Chapter has all of his standard wargear.

Scenario 2) The space marine is dropped in without his armor and weapons, but somehow magically his increased size is not being noticed by the locals via act of plot.He also has 20k USD and the addresses of all the local arms dealers.

Fight!
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1.Unless Marine have plasma weapons,T-X win
2.T-X win.
 
Have to disagree with @ATP

1. T-X gets stomped. It's programmed to hunt humans. The Space Marine, in Armor, is an entirely different animal and will be able to pull the terminator apart. It's faster than the T-X, stronger, and wearing tank armor.

2. T-X might win. An unarmored SM is just as strong as the T-X. So it can't just throw the Marine around in hand-to-hand. The Space Marine might still be faster. Decades to centuries fighting all sorts of aliens, demons and heretics will mean that the T-X will be something inside the Marine's experience. The T-X has to survive long enough to learn and adapt tactics. Edge goes to the Space Marine here.
 
The Whispering Monk said:
Have to disagree with @ATP

1. T-X gets stomped. It's programmed to hunt humans. The Space Marine, in Armor, is an entirely different animal and will be able to pull the terminator apart. It's faster than the T-X, stronger, and wearing tank armor.

2. T-X might win. An unarmored SM is just as strong as the T-X. So it can't just throw the Marine around in hand-to-hand. The Space Marine might still be faster. Decades to centuries fighting all sorts of aliens, demons and heretics will mean that the T-X will be something inside the Marine's experience. The T-X has to survive long enough to learn and adapt tactics. Edge goes to the Space Marine here.
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Let agree to disagree.
In my opinion,robot AWLAYS would be faster then humans -becouse it do not have neurons and muscles,but electronics,which mean faster reaction.
 
ATP said:
Let agree to disagree.
In my opinion,robot AWLAYS would be faster then humans -becouse it do not have neurons and muscles,but electronics,which mean faster reaction.
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That's certainly true from what we know now. It gets weird where the Space Marines are addressed. The sheer amount of genetic chicanery that's done to them makes them exceedingly no longer human. They can take the average modern round and not give a crap. Even if they do suffer injury, the amount of trauma they can endure is while remaining near full capability is...frankly, quite staggering
 
Agent23 said:
Ok, you all know the drill.

Space_Marine_by_StationX.jpg


VS.

2000px-Kristanna_TX020.jpg



Both are dropped in the middle of a random modern day city with descriptions of the other and explicit orders to eliminate the enemy.

Scenario 1) Our generic space marine of the marines Generic Chapter has all of his standard wargear.

Scenario 2) The space marine is dropped in without his armor and weapons, but somehow magically his increased size is not being noticed by the locals via act of plot.He also has 20k USD and the addresses of all the local arms dealers.

Fight!
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depends. Are we dealing with the toned-down version of the Warhammer Space marine or the ridiculous meme version of the Warhammer space marine?
 
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if we are talking the more toned-down space marine then the T-X has a chance of putting up a good fight and even winning. If we are talking about the ridiculously overpowered Space Marines...yeah, the T-X is doomed.
 
The Whispering Monk said:
Have to disagree with @ATP

1. T-X gets stomped. It's programmed to hunt humans. The Space Marine, in Armor, is an entirely different animal and will be able to pull the terminator apart. It's faster than the T-X, stronger, and wearing tank armor.

2. T-X might win. An unarmored SM is just as strong as the T-X. So it can't just throw the Marine around in hand-to-hand. The Space Marine might still be faster. Decades to centuries fighting all sorts of aliens, demons and heretics will mean that the T-X will be something inside the Marine's experience. The T-X has to survive long enough to learn and adapt tactics. Edge goes to the Space Marine here.
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A quibble here - the Terminatrix, or T-X, was designed by SkyNet to hunt and eliminate other Terminators. This is why the Arnie one was not confident of winning.
Secondly, "she" need not fight alone. In the movie, the T-X demonstrated the ability to subvert other machines and "recruit" them to her side.
 
Scottty said:
A quibble here - the Terminatrix, or T-X, was designed by SkyNet to hunt and eliminate other Terminators. This is why the Arnie one was not confident of winning.
Secondly, "she" need not fight alone. In the movie, the T-X demonstrated the ability to subvert other machines and "recruit" them to her side.
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1. You're right, I forgot about that. So her odds are now better in Scenario 2. She's still boned in Scenario 1.

2. What machines would be able to help her...cuz there aren't any other terminators?
 
The Whispering Monk said:
1. You're right, I forgot about that. So her odds are now better in Scenario 2. She's still boned in Scenario 1.

2. What machines would be able to help her...cuz there aren't any other terminators?
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Anything computer-controlled. Or even manually pilotable. With her shapeshifting abilities and so on, she could in principle infiltrate some supposed-to-be-secret places and walk out of there with some nukes.
 
Scottty said:
Anything computer-controlled. Or even manually pilotable. With her shapeshifting abilities and so on, she could in principle infiltrate some supposed-to-be-secret places and walk out of there with some nukes.
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Depends on the Marine. All of them are Psykers from low end self enhancement psykers to shatter planets Librarians.
 
All of the on-board weaponry the T-X has? I'm pretty sure that the average Space Marine (in armour) has encountered worse in 40k.

One advantage I think the T-X would have would be in physical strength versus an unarmoured Marine (key word unarmoured), as they are said to be leagues above prior Terminator models (which the T-850 can bench-press hydraulic doors on one fuel cell than two, and the T-X can rip someone's head off from their shoulders using a forefinger and a pinky [T3 novel?] in strength, and even then it'd probably take damage from a superhuman Marine (albeit the Marine being a glass cannon) in the process.

That's the only way I can see a T-X killing a Marine -- superhuman or not, unless those muscles and tissue are beyond titanium in strength/durability, they'd still get their heads ripped off if a T-X gets in close to an unarmoured marine.

The other would be deception, in that it could use its mimetic polyalloy to get close to a Marine to try something.

Otherwise, as much as I love Terminators, the 40k Galaxy has thrown at Space Marines much, much worse stuff in terms of weaponry. Hell, the fucking necrons are a good example.
 
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