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DarthOne
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Oh good god, fuck no.We are getting live action Thrawn.
Star Wars' Admiral Thrawn Reportedly Getting Live-Action Treatment
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Bear Ribs
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So to discuss something I found mildly interesting, I was searching fics at AO3 and happened to click Star Wars Sequel Trilogy fics. What jumped out at me as I scrolled through was that the first page was almost all AU, mostly shipfics set in the modern day.
Of the first few fics, there's an AU about Rey and Kylo being gods in love, one actually set in the ST era but featuring a Sith OC, an AU where the cast starts a band with, apparently, Justin Timberlake, an AU High School Reylo fic, a modern day AU that's apparently trading on the current riots and setting a Reylo romance amidst police brutality, one actually set in the ST era about Kylo cloning Hux's corpse in order to make a harem of Huxes (and that's not a phrase I ever imagined myself writing), a modern day AU with Kylo as a barrista, a modern day AU with Hux marrying Rose Tico, etc.
I wonder if there's something to be gleaned from this, I feel like I could gain some insight here but I'm not sure what. It seems to me that it says something significant about the world that people like the characters but don't actually want to play in that sandbox. Does anybody else have any thoughts on what the implications are?
Of the first few fics, there's an AU about Rey and Kylo being gods in love, one actually set in the ST era but featuring a Sith OC, an AU where the cast starts a band with, apparently, Justin Timberlake, an AU High School Reylo fic, a modern day AU that's apparently trading on the current riots and setting a Reylo romance amidst police brutality, one actually set in the ST era about Kylo cloning Hux's corpse in order to make a harem of Huxes (and that's not a phrase I ever imagined myself writing), a modern day AU with Kylo as a barrista, a modern day AU with Hux marrying Rose Tico, etc.
I wonder if there's something to be gleaned from this, I feel like I could gain some insight here but I'm not sure what. It seems to me that it says something significant about the world that people like the characters but don't actually want to play in that sandbox. Does anybody else have any thoughts on what the implications are?
What you need to glean from this is that there are almost no good fics in sequel star wars. The setting is underdeveloped and uninteresting compared to other time periods, so the only interesting thing might be the characters. But the characters are also from the sequels, so not so much. There was potential, but it was wasted. Phasma could have been the classic noble villian/father to her men type (as she was in some of the related books from what I've heard). Nope, let's kill her off for little gain. Finn could have had a ton of angst for killing his former brothers in arms. Nope, he's totally fine with it. Snoke? Nope, kill him off. Rey? HA! Also, let's butcher the trio from the first movie for kicks and giggles. The only character that was well done was Kylo Ren, who perfectly portrays a wannabe Darth Vader who never will be good enough. His anger had no control, while Vader's was always under control (in the OT, not the prequels).
And one wannabe Darth isn't enough for even a pairing fic. That's why it's almost all shit.
Certified_Heterosexual
The Falklands are Serbian, you cowards.
What's this almost talk? There hasn't been so much as a scrap of decent SW content since 2014. No, not even The Mandalorian was good, you've just got Stockholm Syndrome.
If you want new good Star Wars content, flip the House of Rat the bird and create it yourself.
Bigking321
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I would argue that the mandalorian is the closest Disney star wars has gotten to being good and whether it crosses the line into being good or not is going to be pretty subjective from person to person.
I personally loved the first couple of episodes, hated the middle, and was meh on the end. That's infinitely better than the other stuff Disney made. Any port in a storm.
... It definitely has issues though. Loooots of issues.
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I honestly don’t think Solo is that bad. It’s basically the Brian Daley trilogy albeit loosely.
Shrike and Beckett
Q’ira is a dark mirror of Bria
And so on.
I give it a 5/10.
And that’s my absolute most generous review.
Its average and suffers from a weak villain, lots of redirecting, and a lack of clear direction for Han-is he an idealist already? Or is he a rogue with a heart?
Best parts have to be Emilia’s beautiful brunette look, the inserted Wookieepedia references, and um homage, I guess.
Shrike and Beckett
Q’ira is a dark mirror of Bria
And so on.
I give it a 5/10.
And that’s my absolute most generous review.
Its average and suffers from a weak villain, lots of redirecting, and a lack of clear direction for Han-is he an idealist already? Or is he a rogue with a heart?
Best parts have to be Emilia’s beautiful brunette look, the inserted Wookieepedia references, and um homage, I guess.
Almost all shit here referred to fanfic about the new stuff, not what disney put out.
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ST fanfic is like all bad. YOC is saying that's due to Disney Wars being a bad foundation to start with.
Ah, that's what I was saying as well.
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Then you don't disagree, he's just being acerbic and you misunderstood each other.
Basileus_Komnenos
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Yeah I saw that article too. I feel like they're doing too much with all these cameos and it might oversaturate things. I liked how self-contained the Mandalorian was, and how split off it was from the main canon. I was kinda iffy about the Asokha cameo, but I definitely don't want Thrawn just to see him be pointlessly added for a few minute scene.
That article says that Ezra might also return which I really dread. I really didn't like Ezra bridger and felt like he was annoying. Many scenes like the Asokha's fight against Vader or Maul confrontation with Kenobi had a lot of the tension interrupted by some of Ezra's annoying quips. One example of this, is as Asokha and Vader are fighting with the somber music playing, the camera shifts to Ezra dumbly saying that "he needs more training."
Despite the good things that Filoni has done, I was very ticked with how he nerfed Thrawn making him in some ways resemble a Saturday Morning Cartoon villain who lets the heroes escape with their massive plot armor. Legends Thrawn would have easily mopped the floor with them. I hated how Thrawn was beaten by the dumb Macguffin of Space Whales. That was so ridiculous.
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The only reason thrawn was brought on was because they wanted a bone to throw legends fans.
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
And it would have worked if he had only appeared in the Battle of Atollon. Instead they kept him around
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
Phoenix Squadron should not even be on the radar of a Grand fucking Admiral. Legends Thrawn, for sure, would have wiped them all out in the first episode if forced, but he wouldn't. He'd look at one of his subordinates and say "Would you handle this? I've more important matters to attend to," let alone get carried off to god knows where by veritable tentacle monsters.
On that tangent, what Filoni did to Thrawn is symptomatic of what he did to the Empire. He made them laughable Saturday morning cartoon villains which completely destroyed tension. Even Battle Droids drowned heroes in their superior numbers from time to time.
I don't understand how the creator of the Clone Wars managed to fuck up so badly with Rebels.
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Well as I understand it, the issue was Lothal was basically a local rebellion. However they made it an interdimensional gateway and thus everyone from thrawn to the emperor was involved on it.
For the heroes to not be destroyed easily, they had to make the empire into cartoon ineptitudes.
Not that I ever watched Rebels anyway.
For the heroes to not be destroyed easily, they had to make the empire into cartoon ineptitudes.
Not that I ever watched Rebels anyway.
DarthOne
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I did. I regret it.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
Threat escalation got out of hand, essentially? Could you imagine if they'd just kept Lothal an industrial backwater with a small Imperial garrison? And I don't mean Stormtroopers, I mean regular Imperial Army, preferably a native regiment raised on that world. Star Destroyers would be practically unheard of in that part of the Galaxy, with the Ghost legging it whenever Imperial frigates show up. A Star Destroyer actually making an appearance would be to the effect of this.
Seriously, the story would have been immeasurably improved if they'd just kept the scale down and added a bit more grittiness. It would have been as beloved as Clone Wars.