Lord Sovereign
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I’m literally sobbing. This work of art has touched me on a sublime level. My life is more complete with it.
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I’m literally sobbing. This work of art has touched me on a sublime level. My life is more complete with it.
Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
DarthOne
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(X) Doubt."AI is Love, AI is Life." — God, probably.
Causeimboredrightnow
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Well now I just feel old. I was a little kid when that song came out.
I actually really liked the Rebels episode where Ahsoka was fighting Vader. It ended on a note reinforcing Vaders evil and power, the sacrifice didn’t feel meaningless, and this was after seeing Ashoka beating the brakes off of those inquisitors with Maul. The time travel was shit though.
No real thoughts on Kreia, but Kathleen Kennedy managed to squander a lot of good will and an amazing universe in a half baked money grab. You can stand by a subpar price of media without attacking your most fervent fans. And Episode 7 wasn’t bad when it came out, but it was made infinitely worse when the other sequels arrived.
Typhonis
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Episode 7 missed a golden moment. Having Luke, Han, and Leia reunited one last time.
AspblastUSA
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Agreed, but compared to the malicious and/or incompetent active destruction of Star Wars even that isn't that bad by comparison.
Hilariously, the writers behind Picard saw this and realized there was an opportunity for their own show. The last few episodes of the last season were basically a love letter to tNG fans.
Causeimboredrightnow
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Very creepy/uncanny valley vibes
DarthOne
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Well, it’s AI art, so that’s about expected.
Terthna
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Which only happened because the show had basically already been written off as a loss and abandoned by those responsible for how terrible the first two seasons were, giving the people who actually gave a crap about the franchise and stayed on free reign to do whatever the heck they wanted with it for season 3. Which, while a rousing success, was immediately pounced upon by the very people who almost completely ruined the franchise, as an excuse to return and try to finish the job.
I wish I could say that is a cynical view, but that's most definitely what happened, yeah. Still, we got some good shit out of it at the end, aye?
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
It’s occurred to me that one of the ways they could have “improved” on the base of Kenobi and kept Vader is by having the Dark Lord not be hunting Obi Wan. Have it that there’s another Jedi in the vicinity the Empire is hunting, and let that chap have the cool light sabre fights/be Vader’s chew toy.
Edit: In this situation, all Kenobi can do is hide.
Edit: In this situation, all Kenobi can do is hide.
Typhonis
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Vader is best if used sparingly. He is a storm, a tempest. He arrives and everything before him dies. You have nothing that can stop him and you can only slow him down.
In other words, treat him as a force of nature. That way you don't cheapen his appearance through the hero's victories.
In other words, treat him as a force of nature. That way you don't cheapen his appearance through the hero's victories.
Star Wars: Rebels did this very effectively in Season 2. They only encountered Vader in person once, and that brief encounter absolutely establishes Vader as a terrifyingly lethal powerhouse that the protagonist party can only flee from -- and barely at that.
As far as dueling goes, Vader casually dominates the fight, mostly using one-handed sabre moves and Force TK as he did in TESB,
and the only reason they don't all pretty much instantly die is he's sadistic enough to 'play with his food' and has the classic Force user weakness of underestimating non Force users.
IIRC, it wasn't even that Vader was "playing with his food", but rather that letting the Ghost crew escape was the plan all along. Since there was a tracker in the shuttle that allowed Vader to follow them back to Phoenix Squadron, which Vader then proceeded to single-handedly dismantle.
It's a little of everything. Vader let them run at the end, but he wasn't intending to spare Kanan and Ezra.
That's the encounter in a nutshell. This is basically a five-on-one fight with the entire protagonist Rebel cell fighting Vader, they throw everything they have at him and fight with good teamwork and good use of the environment. . . culminating in successfully knocking him down and dropping a pair of AT-RT walkers on him. Which a few seconds later turns out to have not even scratched him.
Doomsought
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Yeah, there is a reason HK-47 suggests turbolasers when fighting force users.
Agent23
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And there is that lovely shot from Kenobi, where he pulls a ship that just launched back to the ground with the force, then force-tears it's hatch open.