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Floridaman

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Well technically you can get an automatic weapon, just as long as you are willing to pay thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars, for all the proper paperwork and permits, have your personal life heavily scrutinized, and of course, the automatic weapon has to have been made in the year of 1989 or older or so I recall, so the best you can get after jumping through all the hoops and paying out all that cash is something about three decades behind what the government gets.
Exactly, so it isn’t the same, you are stuck with obsolete weapons, if the worthless politcos want me to agree to any new limitations, they should first lead by example.
 

bintananth

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Exactly, so it isn’t the same, you are stuck with obsolete weapons, if the worthless politcos want me to agree to any new limitations, they should first lead by example.
If you're a firearms manufacturer you are not limited to obsolete full-auto. Heck, with enoungh money Thompson's submachine guns with 100rd drum magazines - which the US didn't issue to soldiers during WWII* - are available.

That's the gangster gun from the 1920s and not obsolete by any stretch of the immagination.

* The drums were too heavy and awkward. Army-issued Thompsons use 20rd or 30rd box magazines.
 

Ixian

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If you're a firearms manufacturer you are not limited to obsolete full-auto. Heck, with enoungh money Thompson's submachine guns with 100rd drum magazines - which the US didn't issue to soldiers during WWII* - are available.

That's the gangster gun from the 1920s and not obsolete by any stretch of the immagination.

* The drums were too heavy and awkward. Army-issued Thompsons use 20rd or 30rd box magazines.

Ehhhh, I mean yeah a Thompson will do what it's supposed to do, but there is a reason it's not still standard issue, mainly to do with the fact that it is an obsolete weapon. Not useless, but certainly lacking many of the incremental improvements that have been made in the field of firearms in the near century since the Thompsons release. Like this is a nearly 100 year old design. We have made some improvements in the field since.

And really this is all tangential, because regardless of if a Thompson can compete with an M4, you are limited to the Thompson, and it has been made as hard to get as legally possible (and many would argue flatly unconstitutional).

Edit: The design of the Thompson is in fact over 100 years old, and the firearm has been in production for 101 years for clarification.
 
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Zachowon

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One should also note that modern body armor would make a Thompson pretty useless as it also wasn't the most accurate on full auto with drum, and only marginally with stick
 

Stargazer

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Jan 6th was a really obvious false flag.

The locks being released from the inside, the guards moving barricades aside and waving people in, the Feds planted in the crowd encouraging people to follow them inside and start trouble, them refusing to call up the national guard beforehand like Trump wanted, them refusing to release all the footage from Jan 6th.

They want Jan 6th as a excuse to try and disqualify their political opponents from being able to run.

They've tried it several times already.

I wouldn't go as far as calling it "false flag", but there's definitely something fishy about it. I work at a government building in DC. My coworkers and I were told to stay home the day of the inauguration. They knew there was a risk something could happen, but the Capitol wasn't properly secured? Why aren't the people who made that call being brought before this show commission?
 

Bigking321

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Why aren't the people who made that call being brought before this show commission?
Because they are the one that MADE the commission. Specifically Nancy Pelosi.

The commission isn't about any actual investigation. It is 100% bs propaganda to try and undermine Trump and anyone that supports him.

It's also the first time in history that the opposition members of the commission weren't picked by the opposition party.

They were picked by Nancy and she picked the most hateful anti republican anti Trump people she could. Liz Cheney and Adam kinzinger.

It's purely a witchhunt and they have broken several rules, like leaking private info to the media, altering evidence, sending the fbi after people, having people detained for over a year in solitary confinement without a hearing or trial on misdemeanor charges (though I'm not sure if the commission itself is responsible for that atrocity), and ignoring any evidence of stuff being odd or it not being a insurrection.

Mark my words. This bs will be thought of as worse than the McCarthy stuff in the history books.
 

Bacle

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I wouldn't go as far as calling it "false flag", but there's definitely something fishy about it. I work at a government building in DC. My coworkers and I were told to stay home the day of the inauguration. They knew there was a risk something could happen, but the Capitol wasn't properly secured? Why aren't the people who made that call being brought before this show commission?
Because the person who made the call to keep the Nat Guard out was Pelosi, and make Gen Milley, who had to have known about the glowie/IC agent provocateurs in the crowd.

The people who truly orchestrated Jan 6th are also the ones running this committee, because we live in a nuclear armed banana republic now.

But many still by the MSM narrative of Jan 6th, so they can keep it going, and there is pretty much nothing we can do about it.

Because all the Right knows how to do is lose fast, or lose slow, and the cope about a 'Red Wave' presupposes the Dems wouldn't just cheat again, or make their own election fraud claims to foul it up.

We are no longer a 'United' nation, were are a post-Constitutional oligarchy pretending to be a republic and the tools of the gov know this, but don't care, because they either were in on it, or are trapped in enlistment contracts made when they though Trump would get 4 more years.

The US gov is illegit at the moment, and will probably never be legit again, so people need to figure out how to live in that sort of future.
 

Cherico

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Because they are the one that MADE the commission. Specifically Nancy Pelosi.

The commission isn't about any actual investigation. It is 100% bs propaganda to try and undermine Trump and anyone that supports him.

It's also the first time in history that the opposition members of the commission weren't picked by the opposition party.

They were picked by Nancy and she picked the most hateful anti republican anti Trump people she could. Liz Cheney and Adam kinzinger.

It's purely a witchhunt and they have broken several rules, like leaking private info to the media, altering evidence, sending the fbi after people, having people detained for over a year in solitary confinement without a hearing or trial on misdemeanor charges (though I'm not sure if the commission itself is responsible for that atrocity), and ignoring any evidence of stuff being odd or it not being a insurrection.

Mark my words. This bs will be thought of as worse than the McCarthy stuff in the history books.

History will not look upon the current branch of democrats very kindly in a 100 years. But it unfortantly takes that long for people to see through the lefts bullshit. AKA wilson was fucking horrible.
 

bintananth

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Ehhhh, I mean yeah a Thompson will do what it's supposed to do, but there is a reason it's not still standard issue, mainly to do with the fact that it is an obsolete weapon. Not useless, but certainly lacking many of the incremental improvements that have been made in the field of firearms in the near century since the Thompsons release. Like this is a nearly 100 year old design. We have made some improvements in the field since.

And really this is all tangential, because regardless of if a Thompson can compete with an M4, you are limited to the Thompson, and it has been made as hard to get as legally possible (and many would argue flatly unconstitutional).

Edit: The design of the Thompson is in fact over 100 years old, and the firearm has been in production for 101 years for clarification.
Tommy guns use .45ACP. That's the pistol round meant to be used by the semi-automatic M1911 with "spray-and-pray" at close quarters while someone with a Tommy gun is reloading as quickly as possible.

It is not a rifle round.

EDIT: M1911s are 7+1 sidearms. Tommy guns are "in you go" for things like room sweeping when you're the first one through the door during urban combat.
 
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Zachowon

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Tommy guns use .45ACP. That's the pistol round meant to be used by the semi-automatic M1911 with "spray-and-pray" at close quarters while someone with a Tommy gun is reloading as quickly as possible.

It is not a rifle round.

EDIT: M1911s are 7+1 sidearms. Tommy guns are "in you go" for things like room sweeping when you're the first one through the door during urban combat.
You do know Sub machine guns are supposed to be short range. That's like saying a CZ Scorpion in 9mm is going to be good at long range.

You do know Thompsons had a semi auto switch right? And were decent at range in an age without body armor.

I dont even get why this matters
 

bintananth

behind a desk
You do know Sub machine guns are supposed to be short range. That's like saying a CZ Scorpion in 9mm is going to be good at long range.

You do know Thompsons had a semi auto switch right? And were decent at range in an age without body armor.

I dont even get why this matters
Which was exactly my point. They were designed for close range close quarters.

Using something for what it wasn't designed for just makes it look bad.
 

Ixian

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Tommy guns use .45ACP. That's the pistol round meant to be used by the semi-automatic M1911 with "spray-and-pray" at close quarters while someone with a Tommy gun is reloading as quickly as possible.

It is not a rifle round.

EDIT: M1911s are 7+1 sidearms. Tommy guns are "in you go" for things like room sweeping when you're the first one through the door during urban combat.

I was making a broader generalization about the inequality in what the average citizen can get vs what the security details of politicians can get.

What I wasn't doing was making an exact technical specification between the two firearms, because they don't actually matter to the point I was making.
 

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