SCOTUS Getting Shade Over Roe v Wade

your metabolism requires others to labor and exchange for you to operate. it is dependent. could you be aborted? I want you to stop a bit and think. how many skills would you need to develop to actually be truly independent. how many of the 8 billion people on this world would qualify. you are completely dependent on people you do not know or care for beyond economic exchange to care for you.

as for brain function. i know many around who have no care for politics. no care for inter personal relations. no care for math. no care for science. i am not going to say they have no brain function. but they will keep voting for democrats. i could try and break down economics. climate change. history. any number of issues. but they will tell me to fuck off. that nothing matters and just go play video games and drink. a retard is as alive as Einstein was.
Apples and oranges, I suggest you read what I wrote and try to understand it before spamming me again.

You seem to lack higher brain functioning since you don’t get what others are saying does that mean I can kill I mean abort you?
Please, tell me again how your superstitions and fee-fees are a better gouge of what is sentient and alive than stuff like biology.

I will not be holding my breath for something intelligible to come out of you.

And there you have it, folks, the easiest way to get the Right to forget about everything else is to bait it with abortion.
Forget the deficit, forget about the inflation and the Green need deal/ESG, forget the Swamp, forget WWIII, forget about Hunter's laptop and Epstein, forget about the lockdowns and the mandates, we need to protect unattached zygotes from morning after pills.
 
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Please, tell me again how your superstitions and fee-fees are a better gouge of what is sentient and alive than stuff like biology.

I will not be holding my breath for something intelligible to come out of you.

And there you have it, folks, the easiest way to get the Right to forget about everything else is to bait it with abortion.
Forget the deficit, forget the Swamp, forget WWII, we need to protect unattached zygotes from morning after pills.
I am against abortion but that is not what this is about. You need to understand that the right is a coalition. Diffrent groups allied together to achieve greater purpose. So you need to look at what your allies want, and be willing to give them SOMETHING. They also have to be willing to give up some things. For example I'd be willing to allow full gay rights, in exchange for abortion being banned and legally considered murder unless done to save the mother's life in a medical emergency.
 
Please, tell me again how your superstitions and fee-fees are a better gouge of what is sentient and alive than stuff like biology.

I will not be holding my breath for something intelligible to come out of you.

And there you have it, folks, the easiest way to get the Right to forget about everything else is to bait it with abortion.
Forget the deficit, forget about the inflation and the Green need deal/ESG, forget the Swamp, forget WWIII, forget about Hunter's laptop and Epstein, forget about the lockdowns and the mandates, we need to protect unattached zygotes from morning after pills.
This. Obvious bait is obvious. The left has been hemorrhaging public support lately, so how better to revitalize it without getting into territories unpopular with the corporate donors than by breaking out an old boogeyman?
 
Fighting for a lost cause is not 'hope', it's foolishness and 'false hope' held up by bravado or desperation.

Hope is important, but spreading false hope is one of the best ways to screw people over, or screw them up, in the long run.

Keep dreams and hopes practical, pragmatic, and realistically achievable, don't blow smoke up people's ass just because it make the one doing it feel good.
Hope and grit kept Bastogne in allied hands. Hope is what Koreans had even after they had been pushed back to Pusan Permiiter
 
Hope and grit kept Bastogne in allied hands. Hope is what Koreans had even after they had been pushed back to Pusan Permiiter
Yes , and neither of those were lost causes.

Maintaining hope in something like Russian competence, such as Vatniks do, is what I meant by clinging to false hopes.
 
This. Obvious bait is obvious. The left has been hemorrhaging public support lately, so how better to revitalize it without getting into territories unpopular with the corporate donors than by breaking out an old boogeyman?
Exactly, and all the SJW classic/tradcucks are eating up the bait with such enthusiasm that they've managed to devour the hook, the line, and half of the pole.
 
In fairness, that's because congress rarely bothers to try. Do you think that national gay marriage bill would fail if they tried to pass it today?

Probably not. Manchin I don't know if they'll get, but they should get Collins and probably Murkowski and maybe even Romney and very likely Portman as well due to his gay son Will. But does the US Congress actually have the power to legalize same-sex marriage nationwide? Assuming that Obergefell was decided differently, I mean.
 
I honestly don't believe rights should be up to a majority vote. That's why they are rights. And Congress would only vote for it now because it is already law. If it wasn't law, it'd get filibustered at best. The only reason it got popular in the first case was another court case in Massachusetts showing that normal families could result from it.

From 2003?

Yes, but in that case then it's covered by rape exemptions. I'm not clear on the argument for it when it's not rape.

Rape isn't always easy to prove? Especially when it's incestuous rape?
 
Hope and grit kept Bastogne in allied hands.

Nope, numerical parity and firepower superiority is what kept the Bastonge, along with German logistical problems

Hope is what Koreans had even after they had been pushed back to Pusan Permiiter
Again, it was numerical superiority and firepower superiority, along with even worse logistical problems for Norks

we can continue the discussions here

https://www.the-sietch.com/index.php?threads/historical-misconceptions.8041/
 
Hardly anyone ever knows what the fuck Zach is posting about. Posts a lot of nonsense and I assume is drunk half the time.
It is either shit-tier coding or he just has a quota of n number of Murika Fuck Yeah posts he has to do per day.
 
I am against abortion but that is not what this is about. You need to understand that the right is a coalition. Diffrent groups allied together to achieve greater purpose. So you need to look at what your allies want, and be willing to give them SOMETHING. They also have to be willing to give up some things. For example I'd be willing to allow full gay rights, in exchange for abortion being banned and legally considered murder unless done to save the mother's life in a medical emergency.
Abortion should be permitted when Incest/Rape/genetic disorders that leave the "baby" a vegetable are concerned.
Morning after pills, and other stuff that prevents implantation should also be permitted.
Abortion up to the time of physical viability outside the womb or neural activity should be considered for legalization as well.

If by gay rights you mean gay marriage and the right to adopt, well, I can't say I have a strong opinion for or against, although some studies on how same sex couples influence child development should be done first.
For better or for worse, society has evolved around heterosexual copulation and child rearing for most of its existence though, so I am not holding my breath for positive or even neutral results.

Also, I am generally against situations where a few hairs on the tail(A minority of the alphabet soup community that wants to get married and adopt children) wags the whole dog, that being society.
I personally view marriage as a breeding and child rearing contract, and it is obviously created to provide the spouses and offspring social support, that contract is lopsided in favor of the female because the female sees a major degradation in working abilities and physical health because of gestation.
However, since there are a lot of pointless childless marriages and men die before women in most cases it is totally pointless to pretend that the objective reason for marriage's existence is still behind the contract.
Also, the whole loving and cherishing until death do us part bit is frigging excessive, guilttrippy, and it doesn't provide any concrete guarantees or penalties.if you view it as just a contract like you do for employment or services, it is a stinking pile of crap.
Honestly, the L part of the alphabet soup is probably the only subgroup where traditional marital contracts make sense.

So, yeah,I see gay marriage as mostly pointless, and at the same time do not think that there is any legal basis to prohibit two consenting adults from going into a contractual relationship.

TL;DR I am in between, yeah, whatever, it is all pointless bullshit anyway,and yeah, stop sperging out over said bullshit, no one wants LGBTQKFCNBBQ to be lynched/made to wear funny hats/undergo electroshock conversion therapy because a church or a baker won't play ball.

Where I draw the line is ironically forcing religious groups to go along with it.
If you want a religious ritual just join the Church of Zeus/Jupiter/Tengri/Perun/LeVey satanism/King Tut and get "married" within that religious tradition.
Or they can just do what we here in Eastern Europe did, and still do, and have a non-religious marriages and "child namings", drinking, silly outfits and gifts and long-winded official speeches included.

And no, I do not care what the interpretations of sexuality in Judeo-Christianity are, if an individual wants to be part of one of those religions and is LGBTQRGBWhatever then it is a matter to settle between that individual and the respective church's canon laws, not secular laws.
 
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Cause that "certain circumstances"? That means almost never after 15 weeks. Not the 24 weeks that Roe v Wade and Casey v Planned Parenthood set.
Does it actually mean that though? There's a lot of wiggle room between "all circumstances" and "no circumstances" and any poll that doesn't make some kind of attempt to suss that out is only good for determining the percentage of absolutists on both sides. And to my understanding when a poll specifically asks about Roe it usually has a lot more than 20% support.
The religious tend to believe it's at conception.
Depends on the religion.
Yeah, this will probably open men to even more false rape claims.
I don't see how, as the baby will be around to DNA test.
 
I don't see how, as the baby will be around to DNA test.

They can claim that they had sex with more than one man in a short period of time and only got pregnant by one of them, no?

Anyway:

 
I don't see how, as the baby will be around to DNA test.
Hoe, we shall call her Candy Cane, gets knocked up because "rubbers are itchy" and she doesn't take morning after pills "cause they taste nasty" or because her pumper swims and "chlorine kills sperm, don't ya know...".
Candy doesn't take action during the period when abortion is permitted because she is too busy doing drugs, whoring herself out on Insta, or binge drinking, sadly the foetus is resilient and somehow manages to survive.

At some point she decides that the belly bloating might not be due to the wierd gas station sushi she ate, and that she is not puking because of cheap tequila.

Uh, oh, she fails the weird pee test, which in her opinion is no proper test, since there are no a, b or c answers she can copy from the nerd next to her.

She does not want a pregnancy to interfere with her career of a fitness model and her sugar daddy and her onlyfans simps are not into preggo shit.

So, she screams rape and points a finger at whoever inseminated her.

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