History Learner
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Reminder for the War Hawks: The U.S. only has 21 combat ready BCTs as of last publicly available data I can find. For context, we needed 23 for Iraq in 2003.
Russian-Ukrainian-Polish Eternal Friendship Thread
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Reminder for the War Hawks: The U.S. only has 21 combat ready BCTs as of last publicly available data I can find. For context, we needed 23 for Iraq in 2003.
Agent23
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You show a lot more sanity than the various neocon chickenhawks.
This despite the fact that boot camps have security and fences around them to keep common sense and sanity out.
Just an old joke around here, universal male conscription and all.
Agent23
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Except Moldova was part of Russia, before there was a Romania.
There is no historic country called Romania, btw, there was Wallachia and Moldavia, proir to that there were a bunch of other empires and principalities ruling over parts of the area, and back in the oh VII century there was an Avar Khaganate, sorry, that part of European history is a bit spotty for me.
In any case, it looks like the Moldovans don't particularly like the Romanians anymore.
Not my area of expertiese, but are Lao and Tahi even the same cultural-ethnic group and do teh lao wnat to be part of greater Tahiland.
I am actually thinking of retiring/investing in one of those countries, so yeah, relevant ask.
If a majority of Austrians are dissatisfied with the current state of affairs and want a second Anschluss, well that is fine with me, Bismarck though, explicitly wanted to keep them out of Germany because they were Catholics, for the record I would rather not have the biggest karen country of the EU grow even bigger, although it would be assmilating a smaller Karen, so, yeah, mixed feelings about that.
No, just fucking no!
Take sausages as tribute, leave the shithole to the Serbs or the Albanians, or the Greeks, don't care if it is a made-up joke country that discriminates against Bulgarians, it is even bigger shitshow than we are.
That would kinda be an improvement over the current crop of Albanian mobsters and religious fanatics running Kosovo under the protection of the USA.
If you meant Serbia, well, I would support them kicking out the invaders from their own, historic lands and protecting Kosovo Serbs.
Off topic I guess but I was just reading the other day about how a lot of Kosovars and Albanians want to unify their two countries. It's an overwhelmingly positive idea in both countries, but the support drops rapidly in Albania if it like... would actually increase their taxes.
Of course Serbia probably wouldn't like it for obvious reasons.
Romania and Moldova would be next most likely... Moldovans are steadily more and more interested in unifying with Romania while Romanians are less interested in unification, though their decrease is like at a lower amount then the Moldovan increase in interest. Plus beyond the growing pains of swallowing up a far more impoverished Moldova, there's an even bigger hiccup in regards to Transnistria which is more diverse and split between three different ethnic groups but a population of only 300,000 people which is kinda sad if it becomes its own almost practically landlocked state plus being a literal enclave in a larger Romanian-Moldovan state.
Off topic I guess but I was just reading the other day about how a lot of Kosovars and Albanians want to unify their two countries. It's an overwhelmingly positive idea in both countries, but the support drops rapidly in Albania if it like... would actually increase their taxes.
Of course Serbia probably wouldn't like it for obvious reasons.
Romania and Moldova would be next most likely... Moldovans are steadily more and more interested in unifying with Romania while Romanians are less interested in unification, though their decrease is like at a lower amount then the Moldovan increase in interest. Plus beyond the growing pains of swallowing up a far more impoverished Moldova, there's an even bigger hiccup in regards to Transnistria which is more diverse and split between three different ethnic groups but a population of only 300,000 people which is kinda sad if it becomes its own almost practically landlocked state.
If Moldova joins Romania, Transnistria becomes independent, joins Ukraine (esp. if Russia will vassalize eastern + southern + central Ukraine), or joins Russia.
King Arts
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Except there was never a Russia in the time period you are talking about 7th century?
Also there was a historic nation called Romania, yes the nation was not unified politically but Wallachians, and Moldavians were Romanian they had the same culture, ate the same foods, had similar festivals, same religion, etc. Honestly Russians never controlled that territory till AFTER the Ottomans were kicked out in the 1800's they helped the Romanians and other Eastern European Christians rebelling from the Turks then took some land, then once ww1 ended Romania took the land back, then Stalin before ww2 took it back again, and kept it ever since.
Moldavia - Wikipedia
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History Learner
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From what has been announced publicly, what NATO/U.S. offered in terms of written response to Russian security requests are complete non-starters. Top it with everything going on about troop deployments into Eastern Europe, and I think it's clear both sides know where this is going now.
I'd be willing to agree to, say, a 10-year or 20-year moratorium on Ukrainian NATO membership, but not to rule it out permanently. Or Ukraine could be permanently neutral while also being allowed to develop its own nuclear weapons for security.
But Yeah, ultimately this is the Ukrainian government's decision to make. Non-Communists in Austria agreed to neutrality in 1955. Will the people of Ukraine ever be interested in a similar course of action? I wonder. They were pre-2014, by and large.
We know from the beginning that Russia is being facetious about these negotiations. Do we ever hear what Russia offered from its side in return for the things it demands? No? That's right, because it offered nothing. This is a list of demands, not a proposition of a serious treaty where both sides get something of plausibly similar value.
They can't even throw not invading Ukraine into that, because their officials keep saying that they aren't planning to invade Ukraine, so it would be quite awkward to want payment for not doing something that they technically shouldn't be doing anyway and are claiming that they won't do.
They can't even throw not invading Ukraine into that, because their officials keep saying that they aren't planning to invade Ukraine, so it would be quite awkward to want payment for not doing something that they technically shouldn't be doing anyway and are claiming that they won't do.
Yeah, fair points. Also, again, I just don't feel comfortable making decisions for the Ukrainian government and the Ukrainian people in their place. Let them make their own decisions and face the consequences of whatever decisions they make. But I do think that the West should give them weapons, sancturies, and medical aid in the event of an outright Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Agent23
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Read what I wrote exactly, lol, it covers over a millenia.Except there was never a Russia in the time period you are talking about 7th century?
Also there was a historic nation called Romania, yes the nation was not unified politically but Wallachians, and Moldavians were Romanian they had the same culture, ate the same foods, had similar festivals, same religion, etc. Honestly Russians never controlled that territory till AFTER the Ottomans were kicked out in the 1800's they helped the Romanians and other Eastern European Christians rebelling from the Turks then took some land, then once ww1 ended Romania took the land back, then Stalin before ww2 took it back again, and kept it ever since.
Moldavia - Wikipedia
I am pretty sure the territorial ownership of that area from the 6th century was Avar Khanate, Bulgarian Khanate/Principality/Empire, even Kievan Rus and a bunch of other, western countries like Hungary, Poland and the Ottomans owning the place periods of time, there were Wallachians there, but their territory was much smaller than the modern country of Romania.
And the Romanians actually, lliterally believe themselves some form of final remnant of the Roman empire.
Here, is a timelapse map:
I see no Romania and a much smaller Wallachia.
You Romanian or something?
So?
If we invade Kamchatka Russia will lose the bonus SEVEN armies they get for controlling all of Asia.
Game. Blouses win!
Ahat data is this?
State Dept vows Nord Stream 2 will be a 'hunk of metal at bottom of the ocean' if Russia invades Ukraine
The State Department on Thursday unequivocally warned that if Russia invades Ukraine the Nord Stream 2 pipeline will sit unused at the bottom of the ocean.
www.foxnews.com
Seems like this situation is developing into either something very silly, or very non-public.
Russia keeps repeating that it's not going to invade Ukraine.
Russia is also making demands for far reaching demands of indefinite promises from USA and NATO that mostly aren't acceptable yet offer little to nothing in return.
USA keeps threatening all sorts of things if Russia invades Ukraine.
Are Russians pretending that NATO has no intelligence collection that could possibly detect some of their preparations despite the evidence and common sense?
Are they talking past each other because one or both side's diplomats are idiots?
Is Russia running the biggest IRL shitpost in history to see if western establishment in its currently poor mental and political state just gives them concessions to be left alone?
Did something happen behind the scenes and the escalation is really about that?
Is this a pointless propaganda campaign from Russia's side to convince western public that they won't invade Ukraine... just to make themselves look like lying bastards when they do that anyway?
Or perhaps it is a distraction and Russia will use the conveniently located forces to anschluss Belarus Crimea style, while everyone, and especially Belarus, think they are about to invade Ukraine?
Russia keeps repeating that it's not going to invade Ukraine.
Russia is also making demands for far reaching demands of indefinite promises from USA and NATO that mostly aren't acceptable yet offer little to nothing in return.
USA keeps threatening all sorts of things if Russia invades Ukraine.
Are Russians pretending that NATO has no intelligence collection that could possibly detect some of their preparations despite the evidence and common sense?
Are they talking past each other because one or both side's diplomats are idiots?
Is Russia running the biggest IRL shitpost in history to see if western establishment in its currently poor mental and political state just gives them concessions to be left alone?
Did something happen behind the scenes and the escalation is really about that?
Is this a pointless propaganda campaign from Russia's side to convince western public that they won't invade Ukraine... just to make themselves look like lying bastards when they do that anyway?
Or perhaps it is a distraction and Russia will use the conveniently located forces to anschluss Belarus Crimea style, while everyone, and especially Belarus, think they are about to invade Ukraine?
If so, would they move amphibs from Baltic to Black Sea? They could use those for seacoast takeovers like they are suspected to plan with Odessa.Or maybe the real surprise will be Russian troops in the Baltic countries?
Troops on Ukraine border and in southern Belarus work great for taking over Belarus or Ukraine... not so much for Baltics, would take some time to move them.
Reposting from the Biden thread:
Biden is detached from reality, or his advisors are lying to him. He didn't even know the 4-party talks between Russia, Ukrainian be, France, and Germany were/are happening.
It also seems the pres of Ukraine does not think an invasion is imminent, and Biden reiterated no US troops will be placed in Ukraine, and new sanctions will only happen if Russia actually invades.
What about a flanking maneuver? Russia goes through Belarus and then launches two separate attacks, one south into Ukraine and one west into the Baltics?
Americans have satellites. And recon planes cruising around NATO eastern flank now too.
Good luck hiding movement of many divisions to the north.
Also having both of these fights at the same time would be at pretty serious risk of losing both.
That raises the obvious question of what *is* Biden aware of?