Russian-Ukrainian-Polish Eternal Friendship Thread

[Captain X]

For someone who just attacked me for having "no real argument", it's bafflingly you never stopped to consider your argument here solely consists of "just because" reasoning. Nothing would stop them you say....except for the fact Stalin has been dead for closer to a century now, the CCCP is equally dead for 30 years now and the Russian Federation did nothing of the sort you claimed in Chechnya or in Crimean after 2014. It's weird how none of Russia's ardent Nationalists claim to want to do this, how it's not reflected in any polling of Russians either and how there is no indication whatsoever the Russian Government is interested in doing so.

You're right, History can rhyme, but it also has to be based in verifiable fact with evidence to even be counted as History at all, which is something you need to stop and consider when making this outlandish claims. It's no different at all from the same type of shit that got us into Iraq, which leads me to suspect you're too young to really remember those times.

Soviet atrocities didn't end with the death of Stalin. As for something closer to current events, let's ask one of the countries Russia has taken over since the fall of the USSR just how awesome it is to have been conquered by them. I bet living in Chechnya is all kinds of awesome.

 

[History Learner]

Soviet atrocities didn't end with the death of Stalin. As for something closer to current events, let's ask one of the countries Russia has taken over since the fall of the USSR just how awesome it is to have been conquered by them. I bet living in Chechnya is all kinds of awesome.

Well, if you listen to Marduk, yes; the Russian Federation lavishly subsidizes them giving them a standard of living far higher than their neighbors and comparable to your average Russian. As for Soviet atrocities, can you show me the Post-Stalin Holodomors?

 

[Captain X]

Well, if you listen to Marduk, yes; the Russian Federation lavishly subsidizes them giving them a standard of living far higher than their neighbors and comparable to your average Russian.

Well, for some of them, anyway...

As for Soviet atrocities, can you show me the Post-Stalin Holodomors?

Afghanistan comes to mind, but that's hardly the only example.

 

[WolfBear]

I think you accidently quoted me; someone else said that (I think Marduk?). Also, I probably won't be able to respond much the next few days as a general note; I currently have COVID.

Good luck in recovering. Did you get vaccinated? I hope that you did.

 

[Agent23]

And here we have noted pinko commie Murika hater Tucker Carlson talking about the situation:

 

[Tiamat]

US State Dept. nonessential staff and families to begin evac Monday.

Families of US Embassy personnel in Ukraine ordered to begin evacuating as soon as Monday: officials

The State Department has ordered families of U.S. Embassy personnel in Ukraine to begin evacuating the country as soon as Monday, U.S. officials tell Fox News.

www.foxnews.com

 

[King Arts]

Here's something interesting what Russians think there top 5 enemies and friends are. What do you guys think?

Russia’s top enemies: US, Ukraine, Turkey and Poland

Russians also included Lithuania and Latvia in their list of top foes in a poll.

www.politico.eu

America and Ukraine are at the top.

 

[Marduk]

Here's something interesting what Russians think there top 5 enemies and friends are. What do you guys think?

Russia’s top enemies: US, Ukraine, Turkey and Poland

Russians also included Lithuania and Latvia in their list of top foes in a poll.

www.politico.eu

America and Ukraine are at the top.

It means that their media are working hard, follow orders from above, and the directors deserve a bonus.

Turkey shot up to the third place, with 29 percent of respondents including it among their top five, up from just 1 percent last year. The result is likely due to Turkey’s downing of a Russian war plane in November, the study’s authors told Russian newspaper Vedomosti.

Come on, a shift like that doesn't happen so quickly naturally.

Belarus, Kazakhstan, China, India and Armenia are Russia’s five best friends in the world, according to the poll.

That one they are likely to end up in top 10 anime betrayals with one day. Wouldn't be the first time for Russia.

 

[Husky_Khan]

It means that their media are working hard, follow orders from above, and the directors deserve a bonus.

Come on, a shift like that doesn't happen so quickly naturally.

Belarus, Kazakhstan, China, India and Armenia are Russia’s five best friends in the world, according to the poll.

That one they are likely to end up in top 10 anime betrayals with one day. Wouldn't be the first time for Russia.

LOL Armenia....

The link is from 2016. How times change.

 

[Bacle]

 

[WolfBear]

Germany blocks NATO ally Estonia from giving military support to Ukraine as it faces a possible Russian invasion: report

Germany has opposed sending weapons to Ukraine to avoid provoking Russia while also citing Nazi atrocities committed in the region.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Husky_Khan]

Here's an actual article on the Four Party Talks btw:

Political advisers from Russia, Ukraine, France and Germany will hold "Normandy format" talks on eastern Ukraine in Paris on Jan. 25, a source in Russian President Vladimir Putin's administration said on Saturday.

Mykhailo Podolyak, adviser to Ukraine's chief negotiator Andriy Yermak, confirmed that a meeting in Paris was planned but told Reuters a preliminary date had been set for Jan. 26.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-01-22/political-advisers-to-hold-four-way-talks-on-ukraine-in-paris

Also the higher level talks between NATO and Russia are still ongoing so... yeah.

Little Progress Apparent in Ukraine Standoff, but Talks to Continue

US secretary of state holds direct talks in Geneva with Russian counterpart

www.voanews.com

Germany blocks NATO ally Estonia from giving military support to Ukraine as it faces a possible Russian invasion: report

Germany has opposed sending weapons to Ukraine to avoid provoking Russia while also citing Nazi atrocities committed in the region.

www.businessinsider.com

Ironically Estonia wants to send Ukraine Soviet-built D-30 Howitzers but since they came from East Germany and thus Germany originally, Germany is forbidding their export to Ukraine.

 

[Marduk]

These two situations, just exactly what was predicted to happen since many years.
France being ambivalent about Russia stuff? Well, remember how France was selling Russia amphibious assault ships, and had to cancel under NATO pressure? That was in 2014.
Germany getting blackmailed into this kind of behavior between the influence of their pacifist left and greens with their ridiculous energy policy was an inevitability, everyone saw it coming since Nordstream 2 was announced, which was a decade ago. Until their resident green party and related movements and organizations are put under even more scrutiny and hostile propaganda than their resident far right, nothing will change in that regard.

 

[Bacle]

These two situations, just exactly what was predicted to happen since many years.
France being ambivalent about Russia stuff? Well, remember how France was selling Russia amphibious assault ships, and had to cancel under NATO pressure? That was in 2014.
Germany getting blackmailed into this kind of behavior between the influence of their pacifist left and greens with their ridiculous energy policy was an inevitability, everyone saw it coming since Nordstream 2 was announced, which was a decade ago. Until their resident green party and related movements and organizations are put under more scrutiny and hostile propaganda than their resident far right, nothing will change in that regard.

Turns out Western Europe isn't really interested with trying to find an excuse to fight Russia, unlike US neocon and neolibs.

 

[Zachowon]

Well.
Good bye Ukraine. I hope you make thr Russians bleed.
Since it seems people would rather see you be taken over instead of living yourself.

Turns out Western Europe isn't really interested with trying to find an excuse to fight Russia, unlike US neocon and neolibs.

Wow...how can you not see what the government has said.
They have gone out and said they will support and insurgency but not send troops.
Thiugbapperently UK has said it would destroy the world or setting of zrussia invaded Ukraine, so perhaps they are changing thier tune.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Turns out Western Europe isn't really interested with trying to find an excuse to fight Russia, unlike US neocon and neolibs.

I can't keep track. As an American Right Winger I thought I was supposed to consider Poland based and France and Germany as Gay.

Now it's the inverse.

Hold on... let me reshuffle my deck.

Man I fucking love Based Germany and their Green party and France and their MILF Loving Centrist!

Fuck Poland and uhhh whatever... Winged Hussar Neocons.

 

[Marduk]

Turns out Western Europe isn't really interested with trying to find an excuse to fight Russia, unlike US neocon and neolibs.

Who needs to find excuses to fight Russia, when Russia will gladly supply them in any quantity you ask for.
Of course Russia would rather take what it wants without needing to fight for it, hence their shady deals with Germany - which would be the one country that's big, economically powerful, influential in the region, and based on geography interested in not seeing a Russian push to the west.
Hence the ex-KGB professionals have arranged for their politics to be subverted into putting a Russia held leash on themselves via Nordstream and Green energy politics, with a generous dose of ol' useful idiot leftist pacifism to be sure.
Now when properly leashed, they cannot afford to do shit about it.

On the other hand, France and Germany are just 2 countries out of over 2 dozens.

Also congratulations on kicking UK out of Western Europe, wow we didn't notice this happened.

 

[Bacle]

Wow...how can you not see what the government has said.
They have gone out and said they will support and insurgency but not send troops.
Thiugbapperently UK has said it would destroy the world or setting of zrussia invaded Ukraine, so perhaps they are changing thier tune.

I have not seen any of that, at all, from Western European powers, particularly France or Germany.

Also, with talks going on, you view puts the horse before the carriage, and frankly show why Europe is not trying to bring the US in on these talks.

The US is already a laughing stock, and more and more nations are taking their security and international relations back from just parroting DC.

I can't keep track. As an American Right Winger I thought I was supposed to consider Poland based and France and Germany as Gay.

Now it's the inverse.

Hold on... let me reshuffle my deck.

Man I fucking love Based Germany and their Green party and France and their MILF Loving Centrist!

Fuck Poland and uhhh whatever... Winged Hussar Neocons.

Avoiding a war with Russia over Ukraine is not a bad thing, and the paranoia the Pole's feel is why I have also said we should not remove our troops from there, the Baltics, or the Balkans.

Who needs to find excuses to fight Russia, when Russia will gladly supply them in any quantity you ask for.
Of course Russia would rather take what it wants without needing to fight for it, hence their shady deals with Germany - which would be the one country that's big, economically powerful, influential in the region, and based on geography interested in not seeing a Russian push to the west.
Hence the ex-KGB professionals have arranged for their politics to be subverted into putting a Russia held leash on themselves via Nordstream and Green energy politics, with a generous dose of ol' useful idiot leftist pacifism to be sure.
Now when properly leashed, they cannot afford to do shit about it.

On the other hand, France and Germany are just 2 countries out of over 2 dozens.

Also congratulations on kicking UK out of Western Europe, wow we didn't notice this happened.

The UK is not Western Europe, or did you forget Brexit was a thing?

 

[Marduk]

The UK is not Western Europe, or did you forget Brexit was a thing?

So what is it now? East Asia?
Brexit according to Bacle:

UK has decided that it doesn't want to have such close political relations with France and Germany (which was, considering their current difference in course of actions, confirmed yet again), but geographically, it didn't move a single inch, and still is a NATO country.

 

[Zachowon]

I have not seen any of that, at all, from Western European powers, particularly France or Germany.

Also, with talks going on, you view puts the horse before the carriage, and frankly show why Europe is not trying to bring the US in on these talks.

The US is already a laughing stock, and more and more nations are taking their security and international relations back from just parroting DC.
Avoiding a war with Russia over Ukraine is not a bad thing, and the paranoia the Pole's feel is why I have also said we should not remove our troops from there, the Baltics, or the Balkans.
The UK is not Western Europe, or did you forget Brexit was a thing?

Any Russian incursion into Ukraine would be disastrous, UK's Johnson says

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Thursday warned Russia that any kind of incursion into Ukraine would be a disaster for the world, saying the London stood squarely behind the sovereignty and integrity of Ukraine.

www.reuters.com

Marduk posted earlier that US would fund an insurgency.

Fun thing.
The refugee crisis will be at a whole new level for friendly countries out there.
But again, you seem to only care if Taiwan is at risk. Screw any other Sovereign country