Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2

Oh, I know, which is why it would be a challenge.

Still, Putin's kids are leverage points, and we need all of those over him the west can get.
You really don't understand the East do you? As a Tzar the prevalent attitude is "I can always father another heir."

Daughters are useless as leverage. Sons are only semi-useful as hostages
 
You really don't understand the East do you? As a Tzar the prevalent attitude is "I can always father another heir."

Daughters are useless as leverage. Sons are only semi-useful as hostages

Sounds like the situation with Japan during WW2. The only way to stop Japan was to literally vaporize two of its cities and force the emperor to watch.
 
Sounds like the situation with Japan during WW2. The only way to stop Japan was to literally vaporize two of its cities and force the emperor to watch.
The emperor was literally a figurehead. The shoguns actually in power wanted to keep fighting even after the nuking.
The emperor effectively staged a revolution against the shoguns, seizing power simply so he could surrender to the USA
 
Great. The fucker's going senile on us just like Joe. But unlike Joe, Trump's determined to fuck us all over. I forsee a painful four years. Our tractor parts are made in Canada, my beef goes to Mexico. The local manufacturers are already raising prices using the tariff as an excuse. Price gouging assholes.
 
Great. The fucker's going senile on us just like Joe. But unlike Joe, Trump's determined to fuck us all over. I forsee a painful four years. Our tractor parts are made in Canada, my beef goes to Mexico. The local manufacturers are already raising prices using the tariff as an excuse. Price gouging assholes.
wat?
 
Great. The fucker's going senile on us just like Joe. But unlike Joe, Trump's determined to fuck us all over. I forsee a painful four years. Our tractor parts are made in Canada, my beef goes to Mexico. The local manufacturers are already raising prices using the tariff as an excuse. Price gouging assholes.
All tariffs are on hold
 
Great. The fucker's going senile on us just like Joe. But unlike Joe, Trump's determined to fuck us all over. I forsee a painful four years. Our tractor parts are made in Canada, my beef goes to Mexico. The local manufacturers are already raising prices using the tariff as an excuse. Price gouging assholes.
Uh, wrong thread, I think you meant to post this elsewhere.
 
Part of what's so offensive about the war, is how both Russian leadership and Democrat politicians playing games insist on running this war in extremely wasteful ways, costing enormous amounts of lives on both sides.
Sometimes, this seems to be the whole point.

Some very few people have pointed out how putin has been conscripting minorities. Altering the demographics of russia. Normally the west would be screaming genocide. Instead the west has been screaming "we need more dead russians! kill every orc" while killing mostly non-slavic russian conscripts.

Meanwhile for the democrat part, this has been a massive money laundering scheme.
Elon musk had to forcibly fire and physically remove the people in charge of transactions of USAID (US foreign aid department) because they were physically barring him from accessing the data. So they had to be fired and booted out the door before the data was accessed.

MSM has been running bullshit about how "chilling" and "scary" and "totalitarian" it is for musk to get access to that data and make it available to public.

Meanwhile, once he got access to the transaction info, musk revealed that USAID is ALL graft.
He expected to find a few worms in the apple and instead found a bowl of worms with no apple.
Posted some pictures showing transcripts.

There were also some interesting catches like, a huge opponent of his investigation was found to have laundered at least 52 million dollars into his own pocket through USAID.
 
Instead the west has been screaming "we need more dead russians! kill every orc" while killing mostly non-slavic russian conscripts.
No need to kill Russians - they've had a below replacement rate bithrate for decades, they are dying out on their own.
 

For all who think Russia's Very Special Military Operation is going well and the West is lying about their losses...
At least Russia can add another category to their world leading records.

Ale leje się wojsko,którego Bóg i wiara jest car - car gniewny,umrzem,rozweselim cara!
Sorry,but soviets never cared about how many of their soldiers die.

Back to politic in Ukraine - when Zelensky go to Kupiansk meet soldiers,there were 3 flags there - and UPA genociders banner was higher then banner of Ukraine.
They really want lost that war.

In old polish city Lwów they made monument of genocider from UPA,Roman Szuchewycz..And rebuild his museum destroyed by soviets in 2024.

And, their version of Holy Mary is with UPA genociders like Bandera and Szuchowycz.

When soviets have Holy Mary with genocider Sralin.
Really,both sides are worth each other.
 
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Sean Hannity was always fairly pro-Ukrainian AFAIK. He agreed with Sean Penn on Ukraine when the invasion started and last year, or the year before actually debated RFK Jr on the issue. I think this is Jake Broe projecting his own bias regarding Fox News IMHO.
A lot of people refuse to acknowledge that most people don't give a damn enough to actually belong to a "side" in this conflict that is happening on the other side of the world from them.
They cannot fathom someone being neutral about the subject, or holding any kind of centrist views.

> "How can you possibly say that Nato encroachment started this conflict, and yet also say that Putin is a dicatator!!!"
> "You must pick a side! You must say that russians are evil orcs in need of genocide and ukrainians and the western countries who puppet them are actually all innocent saints and angels!"
 

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