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I've heard not very. Supposedly they're better than say Malaysia, but lately I think I've been hearing different.How secular are the Muslims in Indonesia?
I've heard not very. Supposedly they're better than say Malaysia, but lately I think I've been hearing different.How secular are the Muslims in Indonesia?
Is it being replaced by Arabic (Saudi & Muslim Brotherhood), Iranian, & Pakistani-style Islam aka "Be as fundamentalist and Salafist and Khwarjite as fuck" Islam?Folk Islam in rural Indonesia has some Hindu and pre Hindu elements in it. That form of Islam is going away due to modernization and urbanization.
from what i've read Iran is in the opposite boat of Saudi Arabia. Iran has a fundamentalist government and a comparatively moderate population especially amongst the youth but Saudi Arabia has a comparatively moderate government and a far more fundamentalist people. Comparatively is the operative word here.a guy I work with is moving them and they are more relaxed then the middle east. Women don't have to wear hijabs, in fact most dont.
Well there is always one thing both can agree on: blame the Jews for every little thing under the sun.from what i've read Iran is in the opposite boat of Saudi Arabia. Iran has a fundamentalist government and a comparatively moderate population especially amongst the youth but Saudi Arabia has a comparatively moderate government and a far more fundamentalist people. Comparatively is the operative word here.
Well there is always one thing both can agree on: blame the Jews for every little thing under the sun.
I've come to really feel the majority of Middle Eastern (and Iranian) governments are run by white supremecist, neo-nazi, "alt-right" (whatever that means), Muslim Identitarian (for the monarchies & Iranians), KKK'ers who get butt kissed by everyone because they have oil.
Pundits on various sides then try to present one massively anti-semitic group who is very, very, very slightly "moderate" (not really) as being so different from another massively anti-semitic group.
When in reality both would probably blow up Jews just because.
He is a Christian, considering he knew that asshole pastor for years and attended his church for years.Most Indonesian Muslims seem pretty chill. There's one famous one named Barack Hussein Obama, who could almost pass for a Christian.
TBF, Hitler was friends with the Sultan of Jerusalem who congratulated the dude for what he was doing to the Jews
That's quite excessive. Are they going to get hung drawn and quartered too? An executioner like Jihadi John will film an execution video and show the price for defying the state?Iranian wrestling champion receives a double death sentence
Iran's Supreme Court confirmed two death sentences for Navid Afkari along with six years and six months in prison and 74 lashes, while his brothers Vahid and Habib were also jailed.www.dailymail.co.uk
The elusive bonus double death sentence PLUS six and a half years in prison PLUS 74 lashes!!!
I forgot how cosmopolitan and progressive and advanced Iran has become. Stories like these are excellent reminders.
The elusive bonus double death sentence PLUS six and a half years in prison PLUS 74 lashes!!!
I think it is a mis-translation do to two different people getting executed.In which order will the punishments be administrated?
Iranian wrestling champion receives a double death sentence
Iran's Supreme Court confirmed two death sentences for Navid Afkari along with six years and six months in prison and 74 lashes, while his brothers Vahid and Habib were also jailed.www.dailymail.co.uk
The elusive bonus double death sentence PLUS six and a half years in prison PLUS 74 lashes!!!
I forgot how cosmopolitan and progressive and advanced Iran has become. Stories like these are excellent reminders.
The perks of being the modern client state isn't it?It's quite telling when you consider that Saudi Arabia is even worse...
But they also do as Uncle Sam says, so get a pass on their crap.
No, in America you can be sentenced to death twice as well, which is useful if one gets overturned on a technicality.I think it is a mis-translation do to two different people getting executed.
Oh, did something like that happen?No, in America you can be sentenced to death twice as well, which is useful if one gets overturned on a technicality.