Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread
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Im hoping its us.
Iran is stating its sabotage already apparently.
www.al-monitor.com
Also an Iranian dissident group, according to the above article, launched a cyberattack on Iran's parliament last Tuesday.
What we know about Iran's gas pipelines explosions
Iran has experienced several explosions, fires and other disruptions in recent years, and some of them have been blamed on the United States and Israel.
www.al-monitor.com
Also an Iranian dissident group, according to the above article, launched a cyberattack on Iran's parliament last Tuesday.
Iran is stating its sabotage already apparently.
What we know about Iran's gas pipelines explosions
Iran has experienced several explosions, fires and other disruptions in recent years, and some of them have been blamed on the United States and Israel.
Also an Iranian dissident group, according to the above article, launched a cyberattack on Iran's parliament last Tuesday.
Has the CIA started funding said disadent group yet?
DarthOne
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Is water wet?
Report: U.S. Carried Out Covert Cyberattack on Iranian Spy Ship
Three U.S. officials have confirmed an operation to hack the computer systems of an Iranian spy ship, identified as the converted freighter Behshad. T...
maritime-executive.com
ummm...is "Duh" sufficient enough a response to this?
Poe
Well-known member
Why wouldn't they? They've spent months, years depending on who you ask, humiliating the US because they know we aren't going to do shit to them. I lean isolationist but if you're going to be the world police and present a strong image that requires actually attacking those who are attacking you directly.
"Fuck fuck games" in your dreams. The current admin will ask really nicely for them to stop and if they don't they'll make sure to shoot something after giving them a weeks notice to guarantee there's not actual iranian losses.
DarthOne
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Oh that’s a good one.
Not possibly. If they want to build a naval base, it's about as direct of a challenge to the treaty as there can be.
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Why has Iran claimed Antarctica? Should the world worry?
Navy Chief Rear Commander Admiral Shahram Irani said Tehran has ‘property rights’ in the South Pole where it is planning to build a naval base. The Antarctic Treaty, signed in 1959, prohibits nations from constructing military bases, testing weapons and disposing radioactive waste in the region
www.firstpost.com
Any single major western surface warship or nuclear submarine is capable of sinking anything Iran has that may be viable to send there.
Territorial claims in Antarctica - Wikipedia
Argentina and New Zealand may struggle with arranging a decent combatant to send there but still, they are closer than Iran and may scrounge up one or two, and NZ is close with Australia.
Norway has a logistical problem in getting ships there, but at least it's in NATO and EU so may outsource the gesture there.
Or is it going to be the Marie Byrd Land that's officially unclaimed, but in theory the "Great Satan" itself has a claim to?
Man, if Milie ends up hitting Iran's naval assets before the US does, that's going funny shit.Not possibly. If they want to build a naval base, it's about as direct of a challenge to the treaty as there can be.
Why has Iran claimed Antarctica? Should the world worry?
Navy Chief Rear Commander Admiral Shahram Irani said Tehran has ‘property rights’ in the South Pole where it is planning to build a naval base. The Antarctic Treaty, signed in 1959, prohibits nations from constructing military bases, testing weapons and disposing radioactive waste in the region
Any single major western surface warship or nuclear submarine is capable of sinking anything Iran has that may be viable to send there.
So, which one of those seven's claim will they intrude upon?Territorial claims in Antarctica - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Argentina and New Zealand may struggle with arranging a decent combatant to send there but still, they are closer than Iran and may scrounge up one or two, and NZ is close with Australia.
Norway has a logistical problem in getting ships there, but at least it's in NATO and EU so may outsource the gesture there.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
No, the real joke here isn't that they're playing chicken with the nations who have established claims there.
...It's the idea that Iran has what it takes to run a successful military base in the Antarctic.
That is not a hospitable place, and while Iran isn't as hot a climate as the Arabian peninsula, it's still a place that isn't remotely close to the kind of climate and hazards that Antarctica will throw at you.
Plus, they're not exactly a wealthy nation and Antarctica is more than six thousand miles away from their shores.
They can go ahead and try to build a base there. It'd be a shit-show, cost them a lot of money for no functional benefit, and almost certainly get a bunch of their own people killed. They might be able to keep it 'operational' for a certain value of such, but it's much more likely that they'd either get everyone they station there killed over the antarctic Winter due to a failure to adequately supply them, or need to be rescued by someone else.
Plus, if any serious world power decides to do anything about it, there's jack-all Iran would be able to do to support it.
...It's the idea that Iran has what it takes to run a successful military base in the Antarctic.
That is not a hospitable place, and while Iran isn't as hot a climate as the Arabian peninsula, it's still a place that isn't remotely close to the kind of climate and hazards that Antarctica will throw at you.
Plus, they're not exactly a wealthy nation and Antarctica is more than six thousand miles away from their shores.
They can go ahead and try to build a base there. It'd be a shit-show, cost them a lot of money for no functional benefit, and almost certainly get a bunch of their own people killed. They might be able to keep it 'operational' for a certain value of such, but it's much more likely that they'd either get everyone they station there killed over the antarctic Winter due to a failure to adequately supply them, or need to be rescued by someone else.
Plus, if any serious world power decides to do anything about it, there's jack-all Iran would be able to do to support it.
It will cost a lot of money, but only in the sense of a common person, not a lot-lot in the budget of a wannabe regional superpower with oil revenues based budget that's already backing several major paramilitary groups and doesn't care about its population living in third world squalor if that's what it takes.
It's easy to arrange if you have millions of dollars to throw left and few more to throw right. It's the equivalent of few ballistic missiles that Houthis mostly chuck into the sea, and who do you think pays for those.
Some countries, including not exactly hi tech ones, had bases there since early 1900's, first one was 1898, i think they can cope with even commercial modern tech, if they got some aid and consulting from Russia for all their favors that would help them avoid making truly stupid mistakes in terms of environment.
The political mistakes to be made though, advisors from Russia won't save them there.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Sure, it'll 'only' cost tens or a hundred+ million, but that doesn't change the fact it serves them no useful purpose, and Islamic culture practically guarantees they're going to get a bunch of their people killed.
Antarctica is far away from every single nation Iran might have to seriously worry about. The only 'allies of our enemies' it's remotely close to are Australia and NZ, and what are the Iranians going to use an Antarctic base for relative to those two nations?
Unless there's something major I'm missing, it's all risk and no gain.
The problem is we don't know what they are planning to do with it. If it's merely having the base and breaking international treaties with its existence, it may be a waste of money (unless it's in cooperation with some other country Iran is friends with that wants a precedent or separate partner to do something more), but what if there are further plans?
Considering the recent foray of Iran and its proxies into open aggression against civilian shipping based on its ownership and routes rather than flag, it opens up several disturbing options.
PeaceMaker 03
Well-known member
Funny thought Iran gives 3rd parties rockets to attack Saudi Arabia, Israel, and International shipping.
The funny part is if someone gave a 3rd party Iranian rockets ( captured from smuggling attempts) and they attacked Iran's Khark<Kharg> island oil platforms.
90% or more of Iran's oil flows through Khark Island. Boys will be boys give them a rocket and well they attack people they do not like.
The funny part is if someone gave a 3rd party Iranian rockets ( captured from smuggling attempts) and they attacked Iran's Khark<Kharg> island oil platforms.
90% or more of Iran's oil flows through Khark Island. Boys will be boys give them a rocket and well they attack people they do not like.
They will threaten to melt the ice unless we all convert to Islam.