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As opposed to our government that doesn't and does so any way? :p
Chad yes. Mandatory reminder of my extreme contempt for the isolationist theory of foreign policy and hostility to Islamism.
I'm not some shitlib ideologically wed to the idea of all cultures, societies and philosophies being equally desirable, they aren't.
It's very telling that isolationists in English speaking locales like here always obsess about how USA should follow it, but never, ever give even 10% of that effort towards pushing isolationism on rival powers.
Again, i think isolationism is a great idea... to inflict on one's enemies. By force if necessary. Though of course its easier, safer and cheaper to do it with bullshit than by force, that only comes into view when said enemies have no patience for bullshit. OTOH USA is very hard to use force against, but at the same time it has way too much patience for bullshit for its own good.
And i'm not the one who came up with that, many governments in fact use this idea in form of sanction and containment policies.
Considering your known opinions on grand geopolitical issues, it may even be the same application of isolationism you are practicing.
 
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Eh, geography is still a factor, and Iraq and Iran may be neighbors, but their topography is quite different, and the amount of mountain fighting needed to subdue Iran via invasion is not something any amount of political will power can overcome, without hitting the nuclear button on most of the nation of Iran.

I wasn't even thinking nation building, just the sheer physical challenges of any sort of invasion of Iran due to geographic realities.
That's fair mountains are a mother f*cker to fight in
 
Iran has a population that hates the ayatollah and the IGRC
So what? people in Iraq hated Hussain,too.Look who is ruling there now.
Only lasting effect was murdering or exiling local christians,who lived there from Apostles times.

If you want the same in Iran,start your war - bbut blood of both american soldiers and local christians would be on your hands.
 
Very common actually.

Most of the military knows war is around the corner and either are waiting or getting out because of it.

And because war keeps soldiers and the military experienced
 
Right, I keep forgetting that he’s actually that self-centered.

Wonder how common that sort of attitude is in the military especially these days.
He's unhappy sitting on a base, so he wants thousands or hundreds of thousands of people to die just so that he can feel important.

He's admitted himself that he wants war to feel important because he feels like his career is a waste sitting in a base.
 
He's unhappy sitting on a base, so he wants thousands or hundreds of thousands of people to die just so that he can feel important.

He's admitted himself that he wants war to feel important because he feels like his career is a waste sitting in a base.
Omg that isn't the sole fucking reason.
And no I am not bored of sitting on a base.
I am bored of our nation not willing to gain experience that it will need come the next major war.

Do you know what happens when yhe US has no experience fighting when the war comes?
You have 1942 US Army in Africa doing a fucking horrible job.
You have an America that loses more lives because it wasn't prepared.


Do I want war so I can do more then sit on a base in the US?
A little.
But I would rather my nation and my brothers in arms to be ready for a war then to go into the next one like we did in 42.
 
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Omg that isn't the sole fucking reason.
And no I am not bored of sitting on a base.
I am bored of our nation not willing to gain experience that it will need come the next major war.

Do you know what happens when yhe US has no experience fighting when the war comes?
You have 1942 US Army in Africa doing a fucking horrible job.
You have an America that loses more lives because it wasn't prepared.


Do I want war so I can do more then sit on a base in the US?
A little.
But I would rather my nation and my brothers in arms to be ready for a war then to go into the next one like we did in 42.
"We need a war so we'll be ready for war" is fucking retarded. We're either ready or not, you just want the war.

This doesn't even make logical sense. You're worried that we aren't ready for war, so you..want war? To get us ready for the war, that you think we aren't ready for?

You, basically: "We're not ready for war with China because we don't have enough experience, so we need to go to war with China."

We just spent 20 years at war. We have experience. Now you just want more so you can feel important.
 
Omg that isn't the sole fucking reason.
And no I am not bored of sitting on a base.
I am bored of our nation not willing to gain experience that it will need come the next major war.

Do you know what happens when yhe US has no experience fighting when the war comes?
You have 1942 US Army in Africa doing a fucking horrible job.
You have an America that loses more lives because it wasn't prepared.


Do I want war so I can do more then sit on a base in the US?
A little.
But I would rather my nation and my brothers in arms to be ready for a war then to go into the next one like we did in 42.
And,for next major war,you want genocide christians in Iran and Armenia,just like Bush friends genocided christians in Iraq.
Tell me,what those people did to you?
 
And,for next major war,you want genocide christians in Iran and Armenia,just like Bush friends genocided christians in Iraq.
Tell me,what those people did to you?
Oh fuck off with these retarded takes. Bush didn't genocide shit, ISIL did it, aka Sunni islamists, so you shill for Shia islamists that keep Christians as glorified hostages for the same reason, so that useful idiots will cry for them if anyone wants to kick their ass for doing islamist things.
 
Oh fuck off with these retarded takes. Bush didn't genocide shit, ISIL did it, aka Sunni islamists, so you shill for Shia islamists that keep Christians as glorified hostages for the same reason, so that useful idiots will cry for them if anyone wants to kick their ass for doing islamist things.
Reatarded takes? Bush let islamist take power,so he is responsible for christians genocided in Iraq.If Hussain still ruled,they would be not genocided.
And Hussain had notching to do with 11.09.He do not had A bomb,too.

And now only Iran stand between Armenia nad genocide.And you want them removed ,becouse...USA could run from Iran after turks genocide all armenians.And current islamist would be replaced by another islamists.

Becouse it is what you could have in muslim countries - current leaders who persecute christians,but let them live,or islamists who would kill/enslave them all.

Tell me,why do you hate christians there so much?

And why Izrael should get help,but Armenia not?
 
Reatarded takes? Bush let islamist take power,so he is responsible for christians genocided in Iraq.If Hussain still ruled,they would be not genocided.
How do you know? Can i have your crystal ball or whatever you use to know what would happen in alternate realities?
Islamists killed Christians, the fuck does Bush have to do with it. Bush had no responsibility to handhold government of Iraq forever. If was stupid to let Iraq elect a government, but that's not just on Bush, the whole western leadership and many beyond it wouldn't tolerate other options. Who knows, maybe Hussein would have let islamists genocide them too. Hell, maybe he would have genocided them himself. Your fanboyism of Hussein and trust in his wise and fair rule in case he was still alive is endearing, but he won't send you any gifts for it, he's dead.
And Hussain had notching to do with 11.09.He do not had A bomb,too.
He was still scum who gassed his own citizens, why do you care for him.
And now only Iran stand between Armenia nad genocide.And you want them removed ,becouse...USA could run from Iran after turks genocide all armenians.And current islamist would be replaced by another islamists.
Armenians wanted to be friends with Russia and with Iran who are also friends with each other, let them deal with their threats, we're not Russians, we're not in CSTO, wrong address.
If they are too busy, they can stop invading Ukraine in favor of fulfilling their alliance duties, we would be more than fine with that. We'll start worrying about the security of Armenia when Armenia joins NATO or CSTO starts caring about our security.
Becouse it is what you could have in muslim countries - current leaders who persecute christians,but let them live,or islamists who would kill/enslave them all.
So, hostages. Only terrorists hold the blame for killing hostages, not the people who refused to obey terrorists. If the leaders really cared about the Christians they would get rid of the islamists. But no, they hold them on a leash, like a terrorist holds a knife next to a hostage's throat.
Tell me,why do you hate christians there so much?

And why Izrael should get help,but Armenia not?
Israel is an ally of our main ally.
Armenia is an ally of our main enemy and our main ally's enemies.
 
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How do you know? Can i have your crystal ball or whatever you use to know what would happen in alternate realities?
Islamists killed Christians, the fuck does Bush have to do with it. Bush had no responsibility to handhold government of Iraq forever. If was stupid to let Iraq elect a government, but that's not just on Bush, the whole western leadership and many beyond it wouldn't tolerate other options. Who knows, maybe Hussein would have let islamists genocide them too. Hell, maybe he would have genocided them himself. Your fanboyism of Hussein and trust in his wise and fair rule in case he was still alive is endearing, but he won't send you any gifts for it, he's dead.

He was still scum who gassed his own citizens, why do you care for him.

Armenians wanted to be friends with Russia and with Iran who are also friends with each other, let them deal with their threats, we're not Russians, we're not in CSTO, wrong address.
If they are too busy, they can stop invading Ukraine in favor of fulfilling their alliance duties, we would be more than fine with that. We'll start worrying about the security of Armenia when Armenia joins NATO or CSTO starts caring about our security.

So, hostages. Only terrorists hold the blame for killing hostages, not the people who refused to obey terrorists. If the leaders really cared about the Christians they would get rid of the islamists. But no, they hold them on a leash, like a terrorist holds a knife next to a hostage's throat.

Israel is an ally of our main ally.
Armenia is an ally of our main enemy and our main ally's enemies.
1.Bush destroyed Hussain regime - so,is responsible for what come next there.Why are you fanboy of Bush? he did nothing good for USA.

2.Yes,he was scum.USA killed him,and let worst scums genocide christians there.Which made Bush worst scum then Hussain,too.

3.What Russia? and Moscov abadonned Armenia.Iran is their only ally now - and not invading Ukraine.

4.Poor naive child,all muslims are islamists.Some civilised,like iranians,other not,like turks or arabs.
You could choose between dictators or,at best,Kings which keep all under their shoes,persecute christians,but let them live -
Or,islamists who would murder/enslave all christians.

And USA keep destroing dictators,and replacing them with islamists.Either you are lead by idiots,or dudes who want christians there dead.

4.Izrael would be unimportant if Jesus do not lived there once.If we do not want take Holy Land again,we should not interfere which pagans rule there.
 

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