Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

lloyd007

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But, but muh Fulda Gap.

Funny fact, for all the waxing of American planners about Fulda gap, Soviets never planned their main strike there but fuhrter North, through NORTHAG area, Fulda gap would only see supporting attacks, to pin Americans in place.

The main offensive worth of Iran was the capability to hit much of the Soviet oil production with airstrikes, so Soviets would be hard pressed to neutralize this threat.
TBF any NATO vs Warsaw Pact war past the mid 1950's was going to end up like That Scene From War Games and everyone knew it.
 

PsihoKekec

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There were plans for coventional and conventional with limited nuclear exchange (mostly just Germany), but planners acknowledged that escalation to full nuclear war was practically certain.
 
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There is a book called the War that Never Was that deals with a lot of the other theatres of the conflict.

Norway, The Balkans, the Caucasus, The Pacific Theatre and so on.

Central Germany gets the bulk of the attention when talking about Cold War era WW3 scenarios, but isn’t where all the action would take place.
 

Zachowon

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At least here it seems we can agree that Sulei was a good kill and is soemthing that should have happend or at least agree he was a bad guy
 

Arch Dornan

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At least here it seems we can agree that Sulei was a good kill and is soemthing that should have happend or at least agree he was a bad guy
I have a neutral viewpoint on him so I can see his death in terms of who benefits.

But the fearmongering from all that cucking about, is it the loss of what's called soft power or is it just a facade because other countries also do it?
 
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Honestly it’s not that much different than assassinating Bin Laden or Baghdadi.

The only difference is that Suleimani had a state behind him.

Also back before the church commission the CIA assassinated heads of state.

It’s an evolution of US policy, not some moral event horizon beyond which nothing can be predicted. Whether or not you think it was a good thing depends on what you think of US policy.
 

Arch Dornan

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Honestly it’s not that much different than assassinating Bin Laden or Baghdadi.

The only difference is that Suleimani had a state behind him.

Also back before the church commission the CIA assassinated heads of state.

It’s an evolution of US policy, not some moral event horizon beyond which nothing can be predicted. Whether or not you think it was a good thing depends on what you think of US policy.
Church commission?
 

Arch Dornan

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What keeps the regime in power is the fact that in the end, Iranian security forces will shoot their own people if ordered to do so.

Maybe not the regular Artesh conscripts, but the IRGC, and the state police will do so.

Sulemaini was willing to do so.

Unlike in Syria or Libya-there is no real way for a revolutionary movement to acquire arms and supplies. Unless of course the army starts defecting. The borders are far more difficult to get through and the country would likely seal itself off rather effectively from any US/Saudi/Turkish/whatever efforts to start managing some rebellion.

Which is probably why your 2 year Iranian conscript will never actually be in a situation to defect.
 

Arch Dornan

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What keeps the regime in power is the fact that in the end, Iranian security forces will shoot their own people if ordered to do so.

Maybe not the regular Artesh conscripts, but the IRGC, and the state police will do so.

Sulemaini was willing to do so.

Unlike in Syria or Libya-there is no real way for a revolutionary movement to acquire arms and supplies. Unless of course the army starts defecting. The borders are far more difficult to get through and the country would likely seal itself off rather effectively from any US/Saudi/Turkish/whatever efforts to start managing some rebellion.

Which is probably why your 2 year Iranian conscript will never actually be in a situation to defect.
How would it go when the entire state is vulnerable to infection with the virus?

They're still voting despite the infection so expect more infections.

 

GoldRanger

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How would it go when the entire state is vulnerable to infection with the virus?

They're still voting despite the infection so expect more infections.

Interestingly enough, we in Israel also have elections exactly in a week from now. We also have an unknown and currently unknowable amount of infected after confirmed infected South Korean tourists criss-crossed the whole country for a week without any barriers or precautions.
 
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If the virus starts spreading in the Middle East, I wonder if it will effect the ongoing conflicts in the region. And if so how.
 

Bacle

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The Korean tourists were from that crazy cult?
Yep.

It's gotten very weird, very fast on parts of Twitter once that news broke out.

The cults long name some long Korean name but it's tranlation starts with the letters SHIN and ends with the letters JI.

At some point some weeb shortened it to Shinji.

Shinji Ikari's laughing face was then posted behind a collage of different Corona Virus updates. It's...not a comforting image at all to associate with a likely pandemic.
 
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Well there's the fact Iran is pretty much spread as far as it can go. It holds its sway in Iraq and Assad is victorious in Syria, I suspect with Khomeini's death and the elections coming up(or just having passed), its probably trying to reassess its options.
 

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