Iran's fighter force is a bad joke, decades out of date. It will basically serve as target practice. The S-300s might be more of a threat, but it will be a great opportunity to finally assess its capabilities.
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The Iranian airforce is a fucking joke. Thier best fighters are the Tomcats they kept during the revolution, which are woefully out of date when facing F-22s, F-35s, and our own nearby naval AA.
The S-300s and other SAMs are more of a threat than any plane Iran could put in the air.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
In the spirit of Silent Storm should the worst come and you did say you kinda want an invasion so "Have a Good War."
I speak it in jest but that sentiment can be understood from the media I perceive. Someone serving but never seeing actual action so they're bored or after the action and getting back in civilian life they miss the action.
Didn't Obama bomb a wedding?
Propoganda art can use that to show Trump was more precise to stay on target.
Liberal media finds its new Che Guevara in dead Iranian terror chief Qassem Soleimani
NY Times reporter posts video of Soleimani reciting poetry, while The New Yorker descibes him as "a flamboyant former construction worker and bodybuilder with snowy white hair, a dapper beard, and arching salt-and-pepper eyebrows..."
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Of course the terrorist murderer becomes a new icon for the left.
Liberal media finds its new Che Guevara in dead Iranian terror chief Qassem Soleimani
NY Times reporter posts video of Soleimani reciting poetry, while The New Yorker descibes him as "a flamboyant former construction worker and bodybuilder with snowy white hair, a dapper beard, and arching salt-and-pepper eyebrows..."
Of course the terrorist murderer becomes a new icon for the left.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
The next austere religious scholar eh?Liberal media finds its new Che Guevara in dead Iranian terror chief Qassem Soleimani
NY Times reporter posts video of Soleimani reciting poetry, while The New Yorker descibes him as "a flamboyant former construction worker and bodybuilder with snowy white hair, a dapper beard, and arching salt-and-pepper eyebrows..."
Of course the terrorist murderer becomes a new icon for the left.
Shame there's no tapes of him of what he does with his job. Just imagine it, he has a nice cup of coffee with a visiting reporter all polite and smiles then when the reporter left he goes back to doing what spooks do when sponsoring proxy groups.
Mostly because it seems everyone who has deployed with my MOS wants to go back into it
prinCZess
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I'd like to note this is another of Trump's 'why not commit war crimes?' moments. Targeting cultural sites is...militarily ineffective on its face because no, tombs and libraries and shit aren't sites with any noteworthy contribution to be made in a conflit, and I believe barred by convention anyways. Besides that, it does a pretty good job of playing-into Iran's 'America wants to destroy us' propaganda.
Trump says US ready to strike 52 Iranian sites if Tehran attacks
President Trump says the US will strike key Iranian sites if Iran attacks Americans or US assets.www.bbc.com
So trump has basically told Iran if you attack 52 places will go boom.
Now...Are any of those 52 targets actually cultural sites in such a manner? I sure hope not and cross fingers to think the military advisors at least would smack the dummy on the back of the head and say 'No. Bad Trump', but I'm not as confident of that being the case as I want to be.
Or it's all more posturing BS because Trump loves play-acting(?) the nutjob willing to blow everything up. Which makes him not getting-along with Bolton somewhat confusing, but I suppose Bolton wanted more actual explosions happening?
I dunnow. Just want to raise how screwed-up and actively unhelpful Trump's rhetoric is on that.
I'm pretty sure russia is playing the sympathy card tight now. Soldiers were sent with flowers and a memorial service at the Iranian Embassy in Moscow.
They are treating the biggest terrorist we have killed recently like he was a great and loving leader
They are treating the biggest terrorist we have killed recently like he was a great and loving leader
You don't know what he actually means by "cultural centers", he was being pretty vague. Also 52 targets is clearly an allusion to the 52 American hostages held by Iran in 1981, not an actual, real number of targets (which, in a serious strike meant to be a deadly blow rather than a slap on the wrist, will be at the very least in the high hundreds).
Stop taking him so literally, it makes you look stupid, not him.
Tell that to everyone on SB... they are taking it literally
Even taking it literally...
"Cultural centers", in context of Iran, may well mean "islamic revolution propaganda dissemination facilities and indoctrination centers", which of course are plentiful there, rather than UNESCO world heritage list sites or such.
And taking it extremely literally:
That would be quite a gray area, even assuming the equivalents working in Iran itself, rather than territories of other countries.
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Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
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Military Occupation Specialty
prinCZess
Warrior, Writer, Performer, Perv
Yes, and he shouldn't have been--at least not in such an avenue as referencing 'sites important to Iranian culture'. It doesn't put any distance between the Islamic Republic and Iranian people or culture--and the one is not a good reflection of the other, as years of protests suppressed through shooting people demonstrate. Trump played into an Iranian propaganda piece by being overgeneral in such a way.
He was on a roll of multiple tweets anyways. Adding a few words in place of vague 'cultural centers' to suggest government facilities, state propaganda/television/whatever facilities, or what-have-you in his twitter-threat wouldn't have earned the objection. Trump didn't do that, so I'm going to object to it, because the dude needs to engage brain before jumping to twitter. Is he going to blow up the tomb of Cyrus or Qom? Almost undoubtedly no. He can take two seconds to make clear that's not the case and avoid giving the Iranian theocracy a good bit of grist for their propaganda mill--especially when the 'cost' is being more accurate and not being dumb on twitter.
Even not taking him literally and treating it as Trumpian rhetoric ala his earlier 'lets do war crimes' it's a dumb look for Trump.
Pretty sure Trump was tongue-in-cheek referencing blowing up that 'countdown to Israel's destruction' clock.
Yokkiziikzekker
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If Iran staged a coup in America, we would rightfully be mad at them for decades as well.
EDIT: On a somewhat-related note...
Erdogan denies telling Rouhani slain general was a ‘martyr’
Russian media reports the Turkish leader told his Iranian counterpart that he feels ‘sorry for the loss’ of the senior military leader
By TOI STAFF and AFPToday, 5:51 pm 1
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, right, greets Iran's President Hassan Rouhani before a meeting at the Cankaya Palace, in Ankara, Turkey, September 16, 2019. (Presidential Press Service via AP, Pool)
A spokesman for Recep Tayyip Erdogan denied that the Turkish president had called Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani a “martyr” on Sunday following a Russian media report that he had used the laudatory term.
Citing an unnamed Turkish official, Turkish state news network TRT World reported that Erdogan had offered his condolences to Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and urged him to avoid an escalation with the US following the airstrike that killed the top commander, but “did not use ‘martyr’ to describe him.”
Turkish Media reported that Turkey, a NATO member and official US ally, had been working to defuse tensions between Tehran and Washington. Tensions have risen between Turkey and the US in recent months over the former’s 2018 incursion into norther Syria.
Lolyearight you totally fawned over him you lying dictatorial piece-of-shit...
EDIT: On a somewhat-related note...
Erdogan denies telling Rouhani slain general was a ‘martyr’
Russian media reports the Turkish leader told his Iranian counterpart that he feels ‘sorry for the loss’ of the senior military leader
By TOI STAFF and AFPToday, 5:51 pm 1
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, right, greets Iran's President Hassan Rouhani before a meeting at the Cankaya Palace, in Ankara, Turkey, September 16, 2019. (Presidential Press Service via AP, Pool)
A spokesman for Recep Tayyip Erdogan denied that the Turkish president had called Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani a “martyr” on Sunday following a Russian media report that he had used the laudatory term.
Citing an unnamed Turkish official, Turkish state news network TRT World reported that Erdogan had offered his condolences to Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and urged him to avoid an escalation with the US following the airstrike that killed the top commander, but “did not use ‘martyr’ to describe him.”
Turkish Media reported that Turkey, a NATO member and official US ally, had been working to defuse tensions between Tehran and Washington. Tensions have risen between Turkey and the US in recent months over the former’s 2018 incursion into norther Syria.
Lolyearight you totally fawned over him you lying dictatorial piece-of-shit...
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