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[bintananth]

Augustus was not Romes peak it’s peak was with Trajan and Hadrian.

And, in the form of the Byzantines, held on for hundreds of years in the face Islamic agression and, at best, Catholic apathy if not outright hostility.

Constantinople fell to the Ottomans the same year the English lost Calais to the French: 1453.

 

[Cherico]

Rome reached its peak before Chsristian Rulers.
Augustus

Rome was lucky to get Augustus man did an excellent job.

 

[bintananth]

Rome was lucky to get Augustus man did an excellent job.

Agustus was Julius Ceasar's adopted nephew and killed Julius Caesar's and Cleopatra's son along with the kids she had with Mark Antony while they were defending Egypt from Rome.

 

[Zachowon]

Agustus was Julius Ceasar's adopted nephew and killed Julius Caesar's and Cleopatra's son along with the kids she had with Mark Antony while defending Egypt from Rome.

Yeah.
Because she was a whole of a queen

 

[Cherico]

Agustus was Julius Ceasar's adopted nephew and killed Julius Caesar's and Cleopatra's son along with the kids she had with Mark Antony while they were defending Egypt from Rome.

Yeah, so?

Civil wars suck ass expecially the ones that come at the end of modernity, only one person was going to win that fight and leaving them alive only meant you had the possibility of another civil war. In order for peace to happen some people needed to just plain die, because society got to that point.

 

[King Arts]

Agustus was Julius Ceasar's adopted nephew and killed Julius Caesar's and Cleopatra's son along with the kids she had with Mark Antony while they were defending Egypt from Rome.

While Caesars son probably got killed by Augustus to prevent him from becoming a threat Cleopatras other kids weren’t harmed by Augustus and his wife even took care of them since they weren’t a threat anymore.

 

[bintananth]

Yeah.
Because she was a whole of a queen

I've seen ancient Egyptian coins from that era. Cleopatra was more inbred than I am and those coins say "she had genitic health issues I don't have" and the worst ones I've got are flat feet and a cinnamon alergy.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

I really don't know why people here are trying so hard to dismiss and discredit the destruction of Prussia. It was a genocide, plain and simple. Victim blaming by clqiming they deserved it makes you look like an utter cunt.

 

[Cherico]

I really don't know why people here are trying so hard to dismiss and discredit the destruction of Prussia. It was a genocide, plain and simple. Victim blaming by clqiming they deserved it makes you look like an utter cunt.

their are still germans in the russian exclave in Kalligrad who want independence and to become prussian again. If Russia ever loses power over that small strip of land prussia might just live again. though much smaller.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

their are still germans in the russian exclave in Kalligrad who want independence and to become prussian again. If Russia ever loses power over that small strip of land prussia might just live again. though much smaller.

Hope dies last, after all.

 

[King Arts]

I really don't know why people here are trying so hard to dismiss and discredit the destruction of Prussia. It was a genocide, plain and simple. Victim blaming by clqiming they deserved it makes you look like an utter cunt.

More ethnic cleansing, than genocide. But yes there were atrocities doen to the Germans after world war 2, and many were kicked out of Eastern European nations and forced into Germanys modern day borders.

 

[History Learner]

Iran is gaining the upper hand in the Middle East:

"This past March, months before Netanyahu’s ouster, China signed a $400 billion agreement with Iran that altered the correlation of forces in the Middle East. That pact more or less guaranteed that Tehran could resist Western sanctions because it gave them a reliable market for the sale of their oil. The massive Chinese investment in Iranian infrastructure, which dwarfs the money they spent in Israel, as well as the prospect of even greater cooperation between the two countries decisively strengthened the major regional threat to Israeli security."​

 

[Husky_Khan]

Saudi Arabia removes its Ambassador to Lebanon after the Lebanese Minister of Information made comments critical of the Saudi-led Intervention in Yemen.

Mr Kordahi, who was speaking before he became a minister, called the conflict "futile" and said the Houthis were acting in "self-defence".

Both Saudi Arabia and the rebels have faced international criticism over alleged atrocities in Yemen.

But the Lebanese government said Mr Kordahi's remarks did not reflect its position.

Relations between Lebanon and Saudi Arabia have worsened in recent years. The Iran-backed militant group Hezbollah, which also backs the Houthi rebels in Yemen, has grown in strength in Lebanon.

Mr Kordahi is a member of a political bloc allied to Hezbollah.

Within hours of the Saudi announcement, nearby Bahrain also expelled its Lebanese ambassador.

Lebanon is grappling with a deepening economic crisis and political infighting.

Prime Minister Najib Mikati said he was "deeply sorry" about the Saudi decision and would work to repair relations.

The Minister of Information, Mr. Kordahi, was a member of the political bloc aligned with Hezbollah but the Prime Minister expressed sorrow over the Saudi decision and said he'd work to repair relations which is all the more important now considering Lebanon's steady decline in many metrics that only accelerated since the Beirut Port Blast.

 

[ATP]

Yet Russia is still around and kicking.

Of course, because Prussians were just Germans at that point, and Germany didn't care.

Madness in politics of course helps nothing, not science, not economy, not even military.

My point exactly. They had their system, and they applied it to their polity, no more, no less. They invested no effort in the delusional hubris of pretending that the law of their land should bind them the same way on and in regard to all other lands too. Law of the land is of the land, that's the sane way. On international arena though, they didn't say ultima ratio regum for nothing.


Iran's new government picked a fight with Israel's ally, USA, during revolution, as their first act.


They are islamists, they hired half of these torturers for themselves and trained more.
Iran has trained terrorists against France, UK, Israel, USA and even India, so by that logic they are a fair target for pretty much half the world.

And they do treat is as second target, for now. They invest more effort into Iraq, Yemen and Lebanon since forever, if Israel was their first target they would not be conserving Hezbollah forces for local uses and even Syria. They shit talk Israel a lot though because it is free to shit talk and it buys them PR with Arabs.

No more than Russia, certainly. But Russia itself is a tough question.

Have some perspective.
Rome did fine for centuries without Christian rulers, so can we.

1.KGBstan ,not Russia.There is small russian minority,but most would serve whatever take power .If martian conqer them,they would be martians.
2.No,prussians owned germany.And when their state cease to be,they follow anybody in charge.Now germans,turks tomorrow.
3.True,but without Truth you have no science in long run.And you could not follow both fist and truth.
4.States could last that way.But when you deny uniwersal truth,you eventually go for fist law.
5.Since when Izrael cared about USA? they almost sink USA ship,and later sold F.16 plans to China.
6.And if izrael do not attacked them,they would not do even that.
7.KGBstan,not Russia.Very easy question - they do whatever in their opinion help their ruling mafias.
8.When christians were minorities.Now we are still majority in many countries - but always ruled by pagans or satanists.

About Iran - according to what i knew,from 650 till 1925 they were ruled by turkish dynasties/earlier mongols and arabs/
Turks do not forget that,nor iranian.And there are few turkish tribes in Iran.
During Karabach war,they supported armenians becouse of it.And now they are facing stronger turks.
So,we have two islamic powers fighting each other,and Iran is weaker.
We should either did nothing or support weaker/Iran/ ,but Izrael is supporting stronger.Madness.Turks do not forget that Palestina was once theirs.Jews are suicidal.But,since they lie about polish death camps,they probably always were.

 

[Marduk]

1.KGBstan ,not Russia.There is small russian minority,but most would serve whatever take power .If martian conqer them,they would be martians.

Yet they aren't Mongols, French, Poles or Germans. Somehow.

2.No,prussians owned germany.And when their state cease to be,they follow anybody in charge.Now germans,turks tomorrow.

Political control is one thing, but that's just for the elites, what language and culture did Prussians have? Somhow the same one as Germans all along.

3.True,but without Truth you have no science in long run.And you could not follow both fist and truth.

Sometimes the fist and the truth are the same thing.

4.States could last that way.But when you deny uniwersal truth,you eventually go for fist law.

That's a luxury concern to have, to worry about what law you will go for.
What most worry about is that no matter what truth they believe and what law they practice, the fist law will go for them, and not give a single damn about what they believe. Only how much resistance they can put up.

5.Since when Izrael cared about USA? they almost sink USA ship,and later sold F.16 plans to China.

Why do you repeat "interesting" memes about events you apparently have little idea about? Because if you did, you wouldn't repeat them as such simple points.

6.And if izrael do not attacked them,they would not do even that.

They would. Stop projecting your own way of seeing world on islamists. They follow theirs, they don't care about what excuses you think up for them, though they will nod along to those who beg to be their useful idiots.

7.KGBstan,not Russia.Very easy question - they do whatever in their opinion help their ruling mafias.

From their perspective, its more than that, its keeping their options open. They also can see what's happening in USA and Europe, they aren't stupid.

8.When christians were minorities.Now we are still majority in many countries - but always ruled by pagans or satanists.

Even when Christians and Satanists didn't exist yet.

About Iran - according to what i knew,from 650 till 1925 they were ruled by turkish dynasties/earlier mongols and arabs/
Turks do not forget that,nor iranian.And there are few turkish tribes in Iran.
During Karabach war,they supported armenians becouse of it.And now they are facing stronger turks.
So,we have two islamic powers fighting each other,and Iran is weaker.
We should either did nothing or support weaker/Iran/ ,but Izrael is supporting stronger.Madness.Turks do not forget that Palestina was once theirs.Jews are suicidal.But,since they lie about polish death camps,they probably always were.

Meanwhile in reality, both Iran and Turkey are more concerned about here and now than about what happened during times when they were ruled by governments that they both have overthrown by revolution. And they have to, because Middle East is not some kind of simple "two powers" situation like you are saying here. Its a clusterfuck. There's Iran and Turkey, sure, but there are also Americans with Gulf States and its need for stable oil market, China with its need for oil, and Russia with its need to balance all the above against each other to weaken them and get oil prices higher, not to mention there's even EU flailing around uselessly.

 

[King Arts]

Meanwhile in reality, both Iran and Turkey are more concerned about here and now than about what happened during times when they were ruled by governments that they both have overthrown by revolution. And they have to, because Middle East is not some kind of simple "two powers" situation like you are saying here. Its a clusterfuck. There's Iran and Turkey, sure, but there are also Americans with Gulf States and its need for stable oil market, China with its need for oil, and Russia with its need to balance all the above against each other to weaken them and get oil prices higher, not to mention there's even EU flailing around uselessly.

That's not the middle east though. Those are foreign actors getting involved in the middle east. The middle east has three main groups, they can be subdivided further but three large ones. Iranians/Persians, Turks, and Arabs. The Persians want to recreate the Persian Empire of antiquity, the Turks are just plain evil and want to dominate not just the middle east but Europe as well. The Arabs for the most part are too stupid to be anything but the puppets and slaves of others.

 

[Marduk]

That's not the middle east though. Those are foreign actors getting involved in the middle east. The middle east has three main groups, they can be subdivided further but three large ones. Iranians/Persians, Turks, and Arabs. The Persians want to recreate the Persian Empire of antiquity, the Turks are just plain evil and want to dominate not just the middle east but Europe as well. The Arabs for the most part are too stupid to be anything but the puppets and slaves of others.

Yes, those are foreign actors involved, but some of these actors are either major powers or current/wannabe superpowers, so their say matters a lot.

 

[GoldRanger]

Yemen: Ballistic missile fired by Houthi rebels kills 11 civilians, including children

A ballistic missile that was fired by Yemen's Houthi rebels hit a house in Marib, killing Nearly eleven people, comprising women and children

m.republicworld.com

11 Yemen civilians, mostly women and children, are dead by an Iranian-supplied Houthi rocket. I'll await the world's resounding condemnation, which I'm sure is coming any day now... aaaaany day now...

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Yemen: Ballistic missile fired by Houthi rebels kills 11 civilians, including children

A ballistic missile that was fired by Yemen's Houthi rebels hit a house in Marib, killing Nearly eleven people, comprising women and children

m.republicworld.com

11 Yemen civilians, mostly women and children, are dead by an Iranian-supplied Houthi rocket. I'll await the world's resounding condemnation, which I'm sure is coming any day now... aaaaany day now...

That would mean consistency from the world...not hypocrisy. So...don't hold your breath.

 

[ATP]

Yemen: Ballistic missile fired by Houthi rebels kills 11 civilians, including children

A ballistic missile that was fired by Yemen's Houthi rebels hit a house in Marib, killing Nearly eleven people, comprising women and children

m.republicworld.com

11 Yemen civilians, mostly women and children, are dead by an Iranian-supplied Houthi rocket. I'll await the world's resounding condemnation, which I'm sure is coming any day now... aaaaany day now...

And how many cyvilians died from saudi missiles ? How much of those missiles come from Izrael ? nobody cared then,so why somebody should care now?

About @Marduk - let agree,that we disagree on prussian and KGBstan.And Truth in science.And nature of states.

About Iran - islamist rule Afganistan,but Iran is another matter.They are as much nationalists as muslim.And their main enemy since muslim conqest were other muslims,first arabs,now turks.
If Izrael do not provoked them,they would be happy killing them.
And since Turkey is stronger then Iran,attacking Iran mean helping Turkey.Since they never forget that Palestina was their property,what Izrael is doing is asking for death by turks hands.Becouse Turks,unless iranians,never have problems with genociding somebody.