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Zachowon

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With enough certainly and political clout to launch on them? Not necessarily.
Oh we will know and act hopefully before they detonate but should they detonate, everyone will know who did it. Then bring rain of hell down upon them
 

GoldRanger

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Oh we will know and act hopefully before they detonate but should they detonate, everyone will know who did it. Then bring rain of hell down upon them

Sorry, I'd rather not take that risk. Seeing as Israel is tiny, I'm bound to be inside the blast radius no matter where they hit. I know that Israeli and American intelligence agencies are top notch, but they are only human and occasionally have blunders. And the stakes on something like this are way too high.
 

Zachowon

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Sorry, I'd rather not take that risk. Seeing as Israel is tiny, I'm bound to be inside the blast radius no matter where they hit. I know that Israeli and American intelligence agencies are top notch, but they are only human and occasionally have blunders. And the stakes on something like this are way too high.
If it becomes known (and it will very quickly) that Iran has nukes. They will be watched with every asset the US and its close allies have.
I dont want that risk either. I want to prevent them from getting that far. It is a possibility of they make nukes though
 

GoldRanger

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Nukes aren't exactly the sort of thing you can just casually "lose". Add that there's no one else in the vicinity who could have lost said nuke it'd be pretty clear who gave said group a nuke. They'd be fools to think it'd trick anyone let alone the people they just nuked.
I have personal stakes in this. I'm not going to count on the Iranian leader's intelligence and sense of self-preservation to keep myself and my loved ones safe, no thank you. I'd rather count on Israel's ability to do everything to preempt an Iranian nuke.
 

Zachowon

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We will know who would try and attack Isreal. They would most likely aim at a western country and pass the blame, perhaps to nK.
 

Isem

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I have personal stakes in this. I'm not going to count on the Iranian leader's intelligence and sense of self-preservation to keep myself and my loved ones safe, no thank you. I'd rather count on Israel's ability to do everything to preempt an Iranian nuke.
I'm aware. I wouldn't want them to get a nuke either because bluntly I don't see that shit ending well even in a best case scenario. I just don't think that in the hypothetical where they do get a nuke they'd try to pull a stunt like that one with the expectation of it working out well for them.
 

LordsFire

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I have personal stakes in this. I'm not going to count on the Iranian leader's intelligence and sense of self-preservation to keep myself and my loved ones safe, no thank you. I'd rather count on Israel's ability to do everything to preempt an Iranian nuke.

I don't blame you. This is part of why I think that, along with ordering the destruction of the F-22 production line(s), Obama should have been up on treason charges for the Iran deal.

You do not give nuclear weapons to world leading sponsors of terrorism. Especially when they lead their people in chants of 'Death to America.'
 

Zachowon

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I don't blame you. This is part of why I think that, along with ordering the destruction of the F-22 production line(s), Obama should have been up on treason charges for the Iran deal.

You do not give nuclear weapons to world leading sponsors of terrorism. Especially when they lead their people in chants of 'Death to America.'
I think him stopping the F-22 was one of his worst mistakes
 

Knowledgeispower

Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
I think him stopping the F-22 was one of his worst mistakes
Yep we really really really should have made the extra 140 planned F-22s at the minimum. Mind you you I probably think 450ish aircraft should have been built as F-22s and perhaps another 200 aircraft as the proposed FB-22 variant to replace the Strike Eagle. Mind you the F-15x we're getting instead of more F-22s to replace the F-15Cs looks like a very decent aircraft itself whose R@D basically got paid for by foreign orders of F-15# but honestly I'd prefer having both it and more F-22s. Oh and we really shouldn't have banned the F-22 from being exported since between Japan and Israel we could have seen well over a hundred(probably closer to two hundred) additional aircraft being ordered.
 

Zachowon

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Yep we really really really should have made the extra 140 planned F-22s at the minimum. Mind you you I probably think 450ish aircraft should have been built as F-22s and perhaps another 200 aircraft as the proposed FB-22 variant to replace the Strike Eagle. Mind you the F-15x we're getting instead of more F-22s to replace the F-15Cs looks like a very decent aircraft itself whose R@D basically got paid for by foreign orders of F-15# but honestly I'd prefer having both it and more F-22s. Oh and we really shouldn't have banned the F-22 from being exported since between Japan and Israel we could have seen well over a hundred(probably closer to two hundred) additional aircraft being ordered.
We need something that only we have. We have basically sold everything else. Isreal and Japan make their own.

F-22 was and will always be a better fighter craft then it could be as a fighter bomber. F-15 is damn good at its job
 

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Nope, never heard of him. Did hear about Kassem Sulimani a lot for years before Trump whacked him. Not this guy.
Not as famous then in public.

Let's see. From here.

Like many of those tumultuous times he was a busy man. Involved in the US embassy capture. IRGC commander in Lebanon and Syria that bombed a Marine base in Beirut killing 214 service members. Involved with Hezbollah. Short career in the air force. Trusted by Khamenei who gave him political positions as a sign of trust. Fits in the eyes of the supreme leader a Hezbollah government. Dabbled in all the circles there reformist, pragmatic and conservative. Must be angling to be the compromise candidate despite the lack of political experience.
 

Bacle

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Hmm, wonder if this has anything to do with Pompeo's recent trips to Israel and the ME.

Knocking off top leaders in Iran's military (Solemani) and nuclear science groups (this guy) is definitely useful in hindering thier regional goals.

Of course it could just be internal dissidents who did this. The Ayetollah and IRGC have become less and less popular at home these last few years.
 

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