Rejectionist Alternate History Idea Novel

A Foggy Night In Coimbra and random notes
  • TheRejectionist

    TheRejectionist
    He was alone in this room, he couldn't see , he couldn't talk. They had broken his arms, his legs and nearly cracked open his skull, feeling the blood flowing into the mouth like a miniscule waterfall and there was nothing he could have done to prevent such outcome for himself, because it was like a rigged game of chess, they had freely moved while he was with his hands chained both metaphorically and in reality, denying any concrete chance of defiance or defense, cruel manipulative and shadowy bastards who were following a never truly buried creed and nefarious intentions not even the biggest conflict in human history could kill, their minions following another and not realizing they were pawns of them, a delirium competing in a race where nobody liked they only two competitors, because they were both awful options to back or to bet on, because their victory was an outcome nobody wanted except the dreadfully deranged.


    << Where's the file?>>


    He couldn't hear or speak but silence would still have been the answer.


    << Where's the file? >>


    Even if he knew the language of his captor, he wouldn't have replied. The hammer felt like a tickle even though the previous hits he received made him shout screams of rage. Why am I going through this? What beckoned in his mind was this constant question, haunting him into a never ending darkness, corrupting the little sanity he had left, pouring outside like his blood.


    << I wanted it out >>


    His captor didn't care.


    << I remember I asked you a question. >>


    A few seconds to recollect the thoughts dancing like dervishes.


    << Again, where is the file? >>


    The hammer hit the left shoulder. Again, you felt nothing went before it would have caused him pain. A sardonic grin appeared on his face :


    << Even if you guys win it's not going to last forever. Last time they betrayed you and if it wasn't for the steel bastard's paranoia the dark skeletal wolves would have eaten you all >>


    << Are you insane? >>


    << Talking about insanity, who do you worship figlio di puttana? Last time I checked…>>


    << Silence you Mediterranean reactionary! You people are nothing but capitalist dogs! >>


    << I do not serve an idol, I serve only the truth >>


    << What are you even rambling about? >>


    << Ignorant slaves, when will you finally take notice? >>


    The last hit was to the head, making Tarantino's movies look like a joke.


    << I can't believe we lost time with this shithead >>


    << Comrade Reinoehl, calm yourself. >>


    Reinoehl was a devout follower of the cause, but he was a demanding, hazardous ordeal to control every time, even if he wouldn't flinch when an order was given. The Purpose had given him everything he was looking for in the past : acceptance, a way of life and an ideal, something he and the generation before not only desired but needed with nihilistic desperation.


    << Yes commandant comrade Kulinski >>


    << Now, let's get the reactionary out, so collaborationist enforcers do not follow a possible trail to us.>>


    << Yes commandant >>


    The body of the Italian was not heavy as he had expected, the guy probably had avoided eating for weeks when he was fleeing the Red Shield, maybe he thought there was a possibility he and Reinoehl or someone else would poison him, but for a variety of reasons, they had to come up close and personal.


    << What is our order, comrade commandant Kulinski? >>


    << Our orders are to wait further orders,comrade Reinhol >>


    << Why should we wait? Don't we have a cartridge to find? >>


    << We do, but comrade general secretary Grundmann want us to be patient. >>


    Reinhol could barely keep silent but didn't thought of uttering or mumble when he heard the name of Werner, the last ally of the Communist cause, after all : France was united but the capitalist in Marseille had taken control, Poland and Vietnam had embraced the West with the Baltic Republic, there was little room for the revolution.

    Grundmann was the last bastion of Communism and heir of the recently dead Posadas, but Grundmann was also very old and there were fears his successor, whoever he might be, would betray the revolutionary ideals of the former.

    He was a respected name, so when an underling like Reinhol was questioning orders or anything close to it, Kulinski just named him. It was much more effective.


    << Focus Reinoehl>>


    The body was smelling, anyone who had a functioning nose could tell before being dead he hadn't washed himself in months, Kulinski couldn't imagine how the corpse would reek.


    << You don't want to be caught today, unless you want end up in the hands of the African Army and the Red Berets>>


    Reinoehl didn't reply to Kulinski, he had already had to deal with the Riffian troopers of Spain and their Carlist commanders, nasty deal, barely got alive

    could be read on his face.


    << There, it is near the Mondego river, just a few more minutes and we are done with this clown >>


    << What we do with the body? >>


    << Let's ask New Swabia when we put in the van then we drive… I will ask them personally >>


    They entered the van from behind, using the fog around the Mondego to not be spotted.


    << Good. We are safe now. >>


    There were Riffian and Ultramarine soldiers everywhere, the Portuguese and the Spanish were taking seriously the meeting between the Union for the Mediterranean Commonwealth and the Collective Security Treaty Organization, with both kingdoms having a keen interest to keep everything going smoothly before and after the upcoming Coimbra Conferences.

    After he double checked the doors of the van were closed, controlling the body didn't have any surprises. Maybe we missed something, Kulinski said to himself, but it wasn't the case, all orifices and the multiple pockets of the young dead man's jacket were empty of any indication or clues where they could find the cartridge, resting his face and had on his hands palms. If he had any cartridge, we would have found it at his home or in his backpack, you can't hide something that big up your ass.

    He pulled up his sleeve to check his armblet, the latest model of arm-strapped portable computers from Kombinat Mikroelektronik Erfurt; the polychromatic display illuminating his face like a light shining in the darkness.


    << Calling Novaya Shvabiya. Over >>


    Static filled the back of the van.


    << Novaya Shvabiya in. What is your current status? >>


    << Subject secured. No signs of the data we were looking for >>


    << Registered. Dispose of him. We are sending one of Volksflugscheiben to bring you back here for your next debriefing.Novaya Shvabiya out>>


    << Kulinski out.>>


    One thing Kulinski hated more than failure was the weather of Antarctica, granted, he thought,we don't have many locations to be safe. Michael was likewise of the same idea, however for a different reason : Reinoehl was the type of would-be revolutionary who wanted to eradicate enemies of the worker'struggle out in the open,which couldn't be done anymore without the approval of their Berliner and Hollywoodian backers.


    << They should be in Coimbra in fifteen minutes. >>



    Mobility Assembly Research Cooperation Omnicompetence for Partecipation Of Learning Organization




    Leaders of the Soviet Union :




    Leaders of the Soviet Union


    Lavrenty Beria 1943-1946


    Zhukov 1946-1974


    Kirill Semyonovich Moskalenko 1974-1985


    Alyaksandr Ryhoravich Lukashenka 1985-1996


    Sodruzhestvo Suverennykh Gosudarstv


    Vozhdkantsler


    Alyaksandr Ryhoravich Lukashenka


    Ministero of Culture


    Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn (1990-2008)


    Aleksandr Gelyevich Dugin (200:cool:


    Minister of Education


    Igor Shafarevich (1990-2017)


    Minister of Economy


    Grigory Alexeyevich Yavlinsky (1990-)


    Minister of Interior


    Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky (1990-2020)


    Minister of Foreign Affairs


    Nursultan Ábishuly Nazarbayev



    NUKED CITIES GERMANY


    Nürnberg


    Heilbronn
     
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    A snippet of my beginning of the future fiction I had planned for Brazil
  • TheRejectionist

    TheRejectionist
    A BABY STEP



    Brazil, 2026




    Augustin Armada, if that was his real name, could have been anything as a person, but no one who has met him before the Putsch would have imagined the young English professor as more than a language teacher. A cosmopolitan middle class with a Master degree in teaching and surprisingly to this day, his University course was ironically Humanities, which would explain his self definition of being politically a Sankarist, Amilcarist, Netoist among other things (1)

    The details of the coup are sketchy at best except for the following conversation supposedly recorded by the autocrat himself.





    AA: We can't go on like this.


    ?? : What do you mean?


    AA: Have you seen what is happening with our dear overlord up there?


    ??: I...have. The situation is like a powder keg. Makes me wonder how much time we have left before we have to face a new world.


    AA: Exactly. Our country has already went through enough. From Manaus to Salvador, from Ilheus to Florianopolis. While you could argue that our situation is better

    than others. It isn't enough. I am sick and tired of the Congress and our President. Either we act now or we will be complicit in what horrible fate awaits us next.


    ??: So, what are you proposing.


    AA: First and foremost, if we wish to escape whatever the Americans and the Chinese are planning to do to each other, we will have obstacles and roadblocks everywhere from any institution.


    ??: You want to get rid of them.


    AA: Incapacitate them. I am no murderer.


    ??: I don't think we can keep it bloodless.


    AA: Most of our history we had them blodless.


    ??: YES...and no... The public is polarized, not as much as the United States, we don't have daily bombings or protests but... let me be clear. We can succeed, I can assure you, however how is an entirely different matter. Also, we hadn't one in sixty-two years. We have no idea how the general population will react!


    AA: We will give them reason to be in favour of what we will do.


    ??: You are the Humanist. I am a socialist who happens also to have several tank divisions on my side. (2)


    AA: Speaking of divisions. Who else with us ?


    ?? : The commander of BOPE. (3)


    AA: How...I am...


    ??: Surprised ? We are not the only ones tired of the current situation. I also was surprised considering me and him are polar opposites, but long story short he told me he is goddamn tired Brasilia has never done anything slightly positive in the last forty-nine years and wants, as much as us, a concrete, positive change.


    AA: What was his price?


    ?? : I just told you.


    PAUSE. NOISES OF HEAVY BREATH.


    AA : I almost can't believe it. It fills me with joy.


    ?? : I feel the same my friend. I feel the same.


    AA: How much time we have left before everyone is in position?


    ?? : 72 hours.


    AA : Well, lets get ready then.


    END OF RECORDING.
     
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    GRAPHICS PART 3.1
  • TheRejectionist

    TheRejectionist
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    Tito and Churchill aren't chums in this timeline.

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    Shitty map of Cold War Italy

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    Rifle from this timeline.
    Didascalo from alternatehistory.com :

    Imbel stands for "Brazilain Military Industries" and the model you picked for the picture is called IA-2 (Imbel Assault 2) it's a 5.56 NATO rifle (the fist of it's kind fully produced in Brazil (The other models used by the brazilian military were a personal version of the FAL rifle, also made by imbel and the HK-33 for the air force both 7.62x56 but i might be mistaken on that because i'm writing this at 4am)
    In addition to that a few nice comments tha could help your story, this rifle is only sold to the army and is for exclusive use of the military, but it has proven itself a very reliable durable, easy to operate and cheap rifle (around 1200 dollars on the actual conversion) so two nice rules for you, if it falls in wrong hands, it wassold by a corrupt military or factory officer and second, due to all the quotations above it woul prove itself a very good rifle for militias, private armies and rebels, since it was made to be fought in all brazilian terrain that goes from cities, rainforest and deserts...

     
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    What If Operation Gallop Was A Success ? Part 1
  • TheRejectionist

    TheRejectionist
    Thanks,but it would be more funny if Italians created Astartes !
    Better world - it is shame what happened to Kurds and armenians in OTL.
    Why Poland become larger? if i remember correctly,Beria planned bigger germany,not poland.

    P.S Is Italy allied with soviets,or fight them in alliance with european commies ?

    There is a story I am doing right now where Beria is killed by Werwolf insurgents.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


    DEATH OF A LEADER


    Kolya held his PPSh-41 with the camera. He had survived another day of the Great Patriotic War and what a day it was, with Zaporozhye into Soviet control once again. Maybe this war will be over soon and I will be back to Leningrad. It did cost a lot of lives, but Skachok was a success if one didn’t consider the fact their comrade commander Nikolai Fyodorovich Vatutin was dead by a stray bullet from the Fascists and the problem of the fuel which had been resolved just for Skachok was now again an issue.

    << Kolya! Come here ! >>

    It was Danil, the Cossack Commissar, who for some reason wasn’t a bastard asshole as the ones he preceded.

    << You won’t believe it ! >>

    What can be so urgent for all of his shouting ? Kolya asked himself. He was only the photographer of his tank squad and amateurish one. He couldn’t even develop his photos unless they were approved by the bureaucracy, because nobody wanted a photo that could tarnish the performance’s reputation of the Red Army.
    He reached the Commissar, who was pointing his revolver against what appeared to be a Fascist General.

    << Comrade Commissar, you asked for me ? >>

    << I did, I did…Kolya you can’t believe how happy I am ! >>

    << What is…the reason ? And who is German ? >>

    The fascist spoke in German, one of the few languages he didn’t know. It was General then Fel'dmarshal then Erich von Manstein.

    << This bastard is one who created one too many problems for the Motherland. He’s…was as of now…Hitler’s little pet.>>

    << So we captured him , Comrade Commissar. That sounds like great news…

    << That’s not all! >>

    << What do you mean, Comrade Commissar? >>

    The Cossack pointed in a general direction with his free hand, indicating what appeared to be a ditch. Or a hole.
    Quickly he moved to see what was inside. Or better, who was inside.

    Him.

    The cause of all the suffering of the Motherland, covered in blood and probably bullets both in his chest and back.

    The Fuhrer.

    Adolf Hitler.

    << It’s a shame we didn’t have him living and breathing ! Imagine what would have happened if the vermin wasn’t lying there! >>

    Kolya, even though was shocked to see the evil fascist dead, did not waste time and took several pictures, each from different angles and during different times of the day. The NKVD came later to put the body in a box and send it to Moscow in the most rapid and discreet way and take his photos, asking for information about him. Kolya behaved with humility and pretended to minimize what he did, because he would be under closer inspection than before.

    In his head, he prayed that he would be forgotten by them.


    MOSCOW, 31st FEBRUARY 1943

    Stalin had rejoiced at the idea of the death of Hitler, ecstatic and some even would have said “even joyful”, a rarity of the man of steel, not only this had been a strategic victory but a morale victory for the Soviet Union and its people, with the additional benefit of being of a “golden” bargaining chip for a post-war order favorable to him.
    He was already seeing the effects of the killing of Hitler on the front itself : Romania had withdrawn to her pre-1939 borders Mussolini had been executed and the Italian Army occupied fighting border wars against the Hitlerite puppets of Vichy and Croatia, trying to suppress both fascist and opposition’s insurgencies and insurrections to keep at least their continental gains along with Corsica.

    << Well, well, well, it didn’t turn out as you expected…right Adolf ? >> said Stalin musing over the corpse of Hitler with a glass of vodka in his hand, with Molotov, Beria, Zhdanov and Zhukov present as silent watchers.

    << Your New Order is doomed…it will be…our New Order! >>

    His sycophants could only nod and agree, something they would have done even if Stalin was objectively wrong, with only Zhukov being the one who could have spoiled the moment, but chose not to.



    A YEAR LATER, SOVIET MILITARY ADMINISTRATION OF THE LOW COUNTRIES

    Momignies looked liked a very different city compared Kolya to what Kolya was used to, he had only two extremes : the kolkhoz he grew up in the first years of his life and then Leningrad; Momignies looked like it was frozen in time minus the prisoners wearing Stahlhelms and obeying Red Army officers.
    In the end he got almost what he wanted when they discovered the body of Hitler in Zaporhyzie, but now he had become the personal photographer of Zhukov and in way was his chaffeur and secretary, which did help but he was in the spotlight, so anything that could be interpreted as a wrong move would have made his life riskier.
    But for now, he was just driving Zhukov who was supposed to meet the Supreme Allied Commander Eisenhower.
    They descended the jeep and went straight ahead to the tent of the American general, which was very spartan in its interior appearance.

    << How are you General? >> asked Eisenhower.

    Kolya translated the conversation between the two military men. It seems they had chemistry, but couldn't comment on it because he wanted to stay on the good graces of Zhukov.

    It was mostly political talk, albeit unofficial and the record of it wouldn't see the light of day until someone decided to do so. Eisenhower talked that while president Roosevelt was not bothered the Soviets influence expanded from Manchuria to Scandinavia and the Low Countries, a lot of other members of the American political and economic sphere were, at best, concerned.
    The Hero of the Soviet Union replied that not only it had been decided everything at the Tehran Conference but they were "only" de-nazifying the liberated territories, mentioning they were having...issues in both Germany and Manchuria, the first regarding the Werwolf insurgency which had taken a blow against Soviet intelligence when they had successfully assassinated Lavrenty Beria in route to the South Tyrolean capital of Bozen and the second was their...difficulty into finding Konstantin Vladimirovich Rodzaevsky, the head of the Russian Fascist Party hydra, asking if there would be a chance it was the United States Military Administration of Korea,affirming he was spotted near the Manchurian border.
    Eisenhower expressed that he would ask the President and his collegues in the Pacific to do their best to deliver Rodzaevsky to the USSR.
    Zhukov nodded in approval and swallowed his glass of vodka, followed by congratulations on the capitulation of the Japanese Empire and very weirdly, also of the annihilation of the cities of Kokura and Yokohama, asking if they had the intention on using the new weapon in India, considering the Anglo-American had to promise to the king of Afghanistan a nullification of the Durand line to enlist the help of the hermit Central Asian Kingdom.
    Kolya presumed the Hero of the Soviet Union brought up the argument of the nuclear bomb because he would have received some informational concessions on the part of the American, but the only clue he got was that was that the American president was in favor of self determination, just as he had demonstrated with the war of independence in French West Africa that had started with Thiaroye Massacre.

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  • TheRejectionist

    TheRejectionist
    KUNTSEVO DACHA, FOUR YEARS LATER
    Kolya wanted to have nothing to do with Zhukov as much as he did before, not after witnessing the annexation of Man'chzhuriya and the expulsion of what Stalin defined as the expulsion of wreckers, anti-revolutionaries and fascists after the Chinese Communist Party had declined to “cede” the region to the Soviet Union, leaving the majority of the population of the former Japanese puppet being Russian Whites, Japanese, and Koreans ( the latter probably tempted to leave and go to the Pyongyang in the United States Army Military Government in Korea Zone) or the mass expulsion of the last remaining Germans from what was now called Królewiec. He felt a deep sense of sadness knowing that the Man of Steel demonstrated little, if any, empathy towards formerly presumed allies and perceived defeated enemies, and showed no mercy or different treatment to them.

    And he was still with Zhukov.

    His personal photographer. Though he had felt more as his chaffeur and barista than a photographer.

    << Pour me another glass Nikolay >>

    Driving and serving the Marshal was a risky hassle, but except for the near contortion he could do it without a problem. It annoyed him but there were advantages to be close to one of the heroes of the Soviet Union.

    When they arrived at Stalin’s dacha, Kolya almost sighed a breath of relief. However, the sensation didn’t last for long, noticing immediately the guards were crying.



    << What happened ? >>

    Asked Zhukov abruptly when he interpelled one of the soldiers sobbing.

    << Comrade Stalin is dead >>
    Kolya stood still out of shock unlike the Marshall, who rushed immediately inside. The “photographer” followed suit but remained composed and serious, concentrating all of his energies in not crying or smiling.

    The bastard is dead!

    He was one of the few who had not lost any family members to the terrors of the NKVD and others, but the anguish consumated lots of his life. Or during the war. Kazan was a blessing. Now Stalin was dead and maybe…maybe he was safe.
    He reached a room where Zhukov was sitting on a chair and standing up were Mikoyan, Molotov, Voroshilov, Kaganovich, Bulganin and others. Turns out Stalin had been dead for a week, but his inner circle had declared him dead that day and that was not good news for Zhukov.
    Because Zhukov now was the “new Kalinin”, which meant his value was zero to the new government and that he would be powerless to stop or depose or whatever he would have potentially intended to do according to them. The new government was already organized : Mikoyan would become Chairman of the Council of Ministers and double as a Minister of Foreign Trade, Voroshilov would become Minister of Defense and Molotov retained the Foreign Affairs, meanwhile the Internal Affairs would be given to one of Beria’s favorites, a certain fellow called Ivan Serov.
    Zhukov was intimately dismissed , but not Kolya. The photographer felt a chill down his spine when Mikoyan called on him to stay :

    << Nikolay…>>

    << Comrade Mikoyan >>

    << I heard you are good with languages…>>

    << I am, Comrade Mikoyan >>

    << Comrade Serov might need your help >>

    Might. More like will. More like you will work for him from now. Kolya felt his heart aching at idea of being a lapdog servant of the intelligence. Ivan Serov took him aside afterwards and approached him with an eerie, uncanny valley smile.

    << Have you ever wished to travel the globe, Ilyanov? >>

    << No Comrade Serov >>

    << Well, you will pack your bags and like it. The world awaits! >>


    God, I am working with demons now… what should do I do ?

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    POSTWAR
    Kolya had been sent by Serov to analyze the Balkans as well as Italy for prospects of exploitation for a people’s revolution. But the situation was more complicated than he expected, what happened in Italy was a very unusual war, not just because it happened at the same time of the Balkan Border conflicts as Romania, Croatia, Serbia, Albania, Bulgaria fought as they withdrew from the Axis what can be considered borderline “every man for himself” wars, but because it had united a rag-tag of republicans, former hierarchs (or underlings) and leftists and communists, who had been also fighting between each other the day before but now were starting to realize they shared a common enemy : the Savoy royal family with their loyalist army, the latter which was too busy protecting what little they had gained in barely more than two years of war in the east against (soon to be former) Yugoslav partisans, from Lubiana to Cattaro, and in the west from Ennesì to Nizza against the French resistance. This situation lead to the unpredictable outcome of the emergence of a literally unknown Sicilian landlord and agricultural entrepreneur by the name of Silvio Milazzo, who had seen the writing on the wall of the monarchy with the demise of Hitler which ultimately led to Mussolini’s downfall and execution and sought to exploit it, starting to contact what would have been potential partisan-like organizations in the style of France and Yugoslavia and die-hard (and not so much) followers of Mussolini, uniting what nowadays are described as the right and the left against the (in that case monarchist) “center”, as well as people such as the President of the Confindustria Giuseppe Volpi.

    In a matter of a few months, what began as multiple minuscule insurrections became a general uprising with no political inclinations but anti-monarchist sentiment which depleted the loyalist forces not only of resources but of the will to fight after the victories in the East and West, with very few hardline monarchists still holding on.

    The political situation post-conflict was … weird. Milazzo had been a good leader for the fight but not so much for keeping said leader position in times of peace and while he wouldn’t be forgotten, his career as a national figure head was over ; expectedly, new parties formed just as soon as the shooting stopped, all originally separate parties that merged in a matter of weeks : National Liberal Republican Christian Democratic Union Bloc (Blocco dell'Unione Democratica Cristiana Nazionale Liberale Repubblicana) with Alcide De Gasperi as chief and Luigi Einaudi as deputy, with the third in command being Randolfo Pacciardi, then there was the National Movement (Movimento Nazionale), headed by journalist Giorgio Almirante (whose past article Defence of the Race was made even more public seemed to affect little the party’s electoral result) and finally the coalition of the Popular Democratic Front for Freedom, Peace, Labour, overtaken recently by mostly socialists and social democrats at the expense of the communists and namely Togliatti.

    In his report, Kolya wrote to Serov that just as the Balkans, Hungary and Czechoslovakia after the failure of the 1948 putsch, the best they could hope was to get the same deal they had given to Finland (a “cordial” neutrality) and would wait for his next reassignment.

    He prayed with a hush voice to himself : Saint George the Dragon slayer, please help me out of this nightmare.


    NOTES :



    What changed from our world in this alternate universe (thanks to the early death of Hitler) ?


    Italy and the Balkan allies of the Third Reich, while violently, jump ship as soon as the Austrian heroin-addicted failed painter is publicly world known to be dead, preserving most of their gains and out of Stalin’s deadly grasp.

    However…

    Norway, Denmark, (what remains) Slovenia, Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands and the whole of Germany and Austria share the grisly endwar with Poland, Czechoslovakia and the Baltic countries ; in addition the ethnic cleansing of postwar Europe still happens but the roles are reversed.


    I hope clear, it is just an inversion of “fate” for narrative purposes, I do not condone any type of violence whether religious, ethnic OR socio-political.


    Returning to the subject at hand :


    Italy also is seeing a MAJOR DIFFERENCE. Instead of getting a much less worse deal THAN what Germany got, the country goes out without an inch since Hitler’s successor was too busy keeping morale up as long as the Italian king didn’t actually go along with the Allies, which doesn’t even happen here.


    So why Fascists, Communist all the sudden unite ? Beyond what I wrote, I don’t have what could be considered a realistic explanation, although his based on a real event :

    https://www.ansa.it/valledaosta/not...esi_28863ed1-979b-4224-8ce0-3de423892f13.html where fascist and partisans united against the French forces.


    Silvio Milazzo and Volpi also are not works of fiction : you can both read about them on Wikipedia (I don’t think there are sources about them in English). The first became famous for uniting the neofascists and communists of Sicily against the Christian Democracy in the late ‘50s , the second was fascist then helped the resistance after 1943.

    Teasers :

    https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/attachments/italian-coat-of-arms-by-therejectionist-png.680943/



    Edit : changed from four to three parties forming after TTL Italian Civil War.
     
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    Gallop Part 3
  • TheRejectionist

    TheRejectionist
    KUNTSEVO DACHA, FOUR YEARS LATER
    Kolya wanted to have nothing to do with Zhukov as much as he did before, not after witnessing the annexation of Man'chzhuriya and the expulsion of what Stalin defined as the expulsion of wreckers, anti-revolutionaries and fascists after the Chinese Communist Party had declined to “cede” the region to the Soviet Union, leaving the majority of the population of the former Japanese puppet being Russian Whites, Japanese, and Koreans ( the latter probably tempted to leave and go to the Pyongyang in the United States Army Military Government in Korea Zone) or the mass expulsion of the last remaining Germans from what was now called Królewiec. He felt a deep sense of sadness knowing that the Man of Steel demonstrated little, if any, empathy towards formerly presumed allies and perceived defeated enemies, and showed no mercy or different treatment to them.

    And he was still with Zhukov.

    His personal photographer. Though he had felt more as his chaffeur and barista than a photographer.

    << Pour me another glass Nikolay >>

    Driving and serving the Marshal was a risky hassle, but except for the near contortion he could do it without a problem. It annoyed him but there were advantages to be close to one of the heroes of the Soviet Union.

    When they arrived at Stalin’s dacha, Kolya almost sighed a breath of relief. However, the sensation didn’t last for long, noticing immediately the guards were crying.



    << What happened ? >>

    Asked Zhukov abruptly when he interpelled one of the soldiers sobbing.

    << Comrade Stalin is dead >>
    Kolya stood still out of shock unlike the Marshall, who rushed immediately inside. The “photographer” followed suit but remained composed and serious, concentrating all of his energies in not crying or smiling.

    The bastard is dead!

    He was one of the few who had not lost any family members to the terrors of the NKVD and others, but the anguish consumated lots of his life. Or during the war. Kazan was a blessing. Now Stalin was dead and maybe…maybe he was safe.
    He reached a room where Zhukov was sitting on a chair and standing up were Mikoyan, Molotov, Voroshilov, Kaganovich, Bulganin and others. Turns out Stalin had been dead for a week, but his inner circle had declared him dead that day and that was not good news for Zhukov.
    Because Zhukov now was the “new Kalinin”, which meant his value was zero to the new government and that he would be powerless to stop or depose or whatever he would have potentially intended to do according to them. The new government was already organized : Mikoyan would become Chairman of the Council of Ministers and double as a Minister of Foreign Trade, Voroshilov would become Minister of Defense and Molotov retained the Foreign Affairs, meanwhile the Internal Affairs would be given to one of Beria’s favorites, a certain fellow called Ivan Serov.
    Zhukov was intimately dismissed , but not Kolya. The photographer felt a chill down his spine when Mikoyan called on him to stay :

    << Nikolay…>>

    << Comrade Mikoyan >>

    << I heard you are good with languages…>>

    << I am, Comrade Mikoyan >>

    << Comrade Serov might need your help >>

    Might. More like will. More like you will work for him from now. Kolya felt his heart aching at idea of being a lapdog servant of the intelligence. Ivan Serov took him aside afterwards and approached him with an eerie, uncanny valley smile.

    << Have you ever wished to travel the globe, Ilyanov? >>

    << No Comrade Serov >>

    << Well, you will pack your bags and like it. The world awaits! >>


    God, I am working with demons now… what should do I do ?

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    POSTWAR
    Kolya had been sent by Serov to analyze the Balkans as well as Italy for prospects of exploitation for a people’s revolution. But the situation was more complicated than he expected, what happened in Italy was a very unusual war, not just because it happened at the same time of the Balkan Border conflicts as Romania, Croatia, Serbia, Albania, Bulgaria fought as they withdrew from the Axis what can be considered borderline “every man for himself” wars, but because it had united a rag-tag of republicans, former hierarchs (or underlings) and leftists and communists, who had been also fighting between each other the day before but now were starting to realize they shared a common enemy : the Savoy royal family with their loyalist army, the latter which was too busy protecting what little they had gained in barely more than two years of war in the east against (soon to be former) Yugoslav partisans, from Lubiana to Cattaro, and in the west from Ennesì to Nizza against the French resistance. This situation lead to the unpredictable outcome of the emergence of a literally unknown Sicilian landlord and agricultural entrepreneur by the name of Silvio Milazzo, who had seen the writing on the wall of the monarchy with the demise of Hitler which ultimately led to Mussolini’s downfall and execution and sought to exploit it, starting to contact what would have been potential partisan-like organizations in the style of France and Yugoslavia and die-hard (and not so much) followers of Mussolini, uniting what nowadays are described as the right and the left against the (in that case monarchist) “center”, as well as people such as the President of the Confindustria Giuseppe Volpi.

    In a matter of a few months, what began as multiple minuscule insurrections became a general uprising with no political inclinations but anti-monarchist sentiment which depleted the loyalist forces not only of resources but of the will to fight after the victories in the East and West, with very few hardline monarchists still holding on.

    The political situation post-conflict was … weird. Milazzo had been a good leader for the fight but not so much for keeping said leader position in times of peace and while he wouldn’t be forgotten, his career as a national figure head was over ; expectedly, new parties formed just as soon as the shooting stopped, all originally separate parties that merged in a matter of weeks : there was National Christian Democratic Union with Alcide De Gasperi as chief and Luigi Einaudi as deputy, the National Liberal Republican Bloc of Randolfo Pacciardi, the

    National Movement, headed by journalist Giorgio Almirante (whose past article Defence of the Race was made even more public seemed to affect little the party’s electoral result) and finally the coalition of the Popular Democratic Front for Freedom, Peace, Labour, overtaken recently by mostly socialists and social democrats at the expense of the communists and namely Togliatti.

    In his report, Kolya wrote to Serov that just as the Balkans, Hungary and Czechoslovakia after the failure of the 1948 putsch, the best they could hope was to get the same deal they had given to Finland (a “cordial” neutrality) and would wait for his next reassignment.

    He prayed with a hush voice to himself : Saint George the Dragon slayer, please help me out of this nightmare.


    NOTES :



    What changed from our world in this alternate universe (thanks to the early death of Hitler) ?


    Italy and the Balkan allies of the Third Reich, while violently, jump ship as soon as the Austrian heroin-addicted failed painter is publicly world known to be dead, preserving most of their gains and out of Stalin’s deadly grasp.

    However…

    Norway, Denmark, (what remains) Slovenia, Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands and the whole of Germany and Austria share the grisly endwar with Poland, Czechoslovakia and the Baltic countries ; in addition the ethnic cleansing of postwar Europe still happens but the roles are reversed.


    I hope clear, it is just an inversion of “fate” for narrative purposes, I do not condone any type of violence whether religious, ethnic OR socio-political.


    Returning to the subject at hand :


    Italy also is seeing a MAJOR DIFFERENCE. Instead of getting a much less worse deal THAN what Germany got, the country goes out without an inch since Hitler’s successor was too busy keeping morale up as long as the Italian king didn’t actually go along with the Allies, which doesn’t even happen here.


    So why Fascists, Communist all the sudden unite ? Beyond what I wrote, I don’t have what could be considered a realistic explanation, although his based on a real event :

    https://www.ansa.it/valledaosta/not...esi_28863ed1-979b-4224-8ce0-3de423892f13.html where fascist and partisans united against the French forces.


    Silvio Milazzo and Volpi also are not works of fiction : you can both read about them on Wikipedia (I don’t think there are sources about them in English). The first became famous for uniting the neofascists and communists of Sicily against the Christian Democracy in the late ‘50s , the second was fascist then helped the resistance after 1943.

    Teasers :

    https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/attachments/italian-coat-of-arms-by-therejectionist-png.680943/



    THE ITALIAN SITUATION AFTER 1948 PART 1


    The Italian situation had many contradictions. The first government of Italy was a coalition of the National Christian Democratic Union and the National Liberal Republican Bloc which collaborated with the other political forces except for the National Movement of Almirante, which was vehemently anti-American (1) unlike De Gasperi and Pacciardi, not to mention they had still to contend with the French who were clearly in the American camp and hadn’t recognized their territories being taken from them by the Bel Paese; a similar although much more lenient treatment was given to the Popular Democratic Front for Freedom, Peace, Labour because of the 404 km border (2) they shared with the soon-to-be German Democratic Republic and didn’t want to get an intervention from the Soviet Union and were in the process to negotiate a final peace deal, which was almost forfeited because of the enormous refugee exodus caused by the yet to be demobilized militias conducting anti-German pogroms just like the anti-Slavic forced relocations from Istria and Lubiana to Cattaro. (3).

    Kolya was starting to ask himself if killing Hitler in Operatsiya Skachok was that all good in the end because he considered it to have caused more harm than good, this line of thought probably helped by the fact Serov had kept him “stationed” in the Bel Paese, this time to observe the military situation in it, like he hadn’t done enough during Operatsiya Golovolomka into basically kidnapping over 3000 thousands former Fascist scientists, engineers and technicians from all over the defunct Reich (4).

    Italy indirectly had something akin to this, but it was much to circumstances which they couldn’t control : in addition to the Askaris of former Italian East Africa (now all of it part of the returned Empire of Ethiopia) and North Africa, many German units had been “stranded” in the “Boot” of Europe and among them there were the very famous Desert Fox Erwin Rommel and the infamous commando Otto Skorzeny (5), who conveniently and weirdly had managed to snuck out their families from the Occupation Zone.

    From his understanding, the new Italian government, while despising Germans for bringing them into an atrocious total war, knew they could be valuable assets to prepare Italy for the future, just like Ettore Muti and Junio Valerio Borghese, presumably to turn Italy into a Swiss-style fortress.


    1. Almirante was very anti-American in the beginning in our world even though the Americans would rather have him than any left leaning canditate
    2. The our world border with Austria
    3. As the Istrian-Dalmatian forced relocations and exodus occurred, this could as well have happened, a tragedy with reversed roles.
    4. Basically all operations to get the brilliant minds of the Third Reich conducted in our world by the Anglo-Americans but done by the USSR.
    5. He probably became infamous for other reasons since Hungary,Italy and the others jumped ship after Hitler’s death.

    GERMAN DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC, NOVEMBER 1948


    Kolya had finally left Italy but wasn’t sent back home unlike he had hoped; instead, Serov had him relocated to Germany and occasionally had him also head over to the People’s Republic of the Low Countries, though his primary goal was to monitor the progress and development of the Nationaler Heimatschutzdienst, which was a very time-consuming “job” due to the fact the NHS had to be loyal to Moscow first and foremost, very few could qualify since most expert “spies” had been fierce Hitlerites.

    He light up a cigarette, when one of his colleagues passed him a French newspaper; Kolya didn’t even wait for him to open his mouth and directly translated it.


    << It says Republican candidate Eisenhower wins the election against Harry Truman. Is the Soviet bomb to blame ? >> (1)

    << May I ask you for one ? >> said Malinsky, making a gesture for a cigarette.

    << Sure. We are about to have a busy day or weeks, I can’t know since it depends on two men, our boss and premier comrade Mikoyan. >>

    << You think our work is going to become harder ? >>

    << Frankly, I haven’t the faintest clue Malinksy. I have been busy with checking, double checking and so on that I hadn’t paid attention to anything that wasn’t in Berlin. >>

    Malinsky approached him and whispered to him.

    << Serov thinks you knew Eisenhower. >>

    << Our boss is mighty and wise >> replied Kolya with a smile that was sardonic and sarcastic at the same time << but I only took pictures of him with Zhukov and vice versa. >>

    << What we can expect from him ? >>

    << Well, he will treat with professional courtesy Zhukov, but a capitalist is still a capitalist. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is doing like Italy and Spain and recruiting fleeing Hitlerites >>

    << Didn’t we catch them all ? >>

    Kolya didn’t reply and continued to smoke. Whatever his response might have been, Ivan Serov would make sure he wouldn’t have a tongue to reply to another question.

    << We should return to work Malinsky. Unless you want to report to comrade Serov why our… new German proletarian friends are probably going to be easily crushed just like the French did to the Vietnamese >> (2)

    << I rather not…>>

    Of course you would avoid the anti-Semite like the plague. (3)

    His desk phone rang.

    << Jah ? >>

    << At ease Kolya. It’s me. >>

    Malinsky recognized from Kolya’s frozen face

    << How I may be of assistance ? >>

    << You are being re-deployed elsewhere. >>

    Again ?

    << Lisbon. >>


    1. “Thanks” to German scientific minds, the USSR gets the bomb AHEAD of time, consecutively Truman stays president only for one term and gets beaten by Ike who accepts the Republican nomination. I haven’t the faintest clue who could be his VP.
    2. The French, having to fight one years less, are just in decent enough shape they can save their Indochina territories…for now.
    3. Serov had supposedly a sense of humour deeply anti-Semitic.
    _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    THE REST OF THE (GALLOP) WORLD

    During the global conflict, there was a proposal for unification of Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Palestine and Transjordan which saw significant opposition and was delayed until Sami al-Hinnawi, who belonged to the SSNP, came to power in Syria, resisting many coups, with the most notorious offender being by Adib Shishakli, another Syrian military leader who was arrested and executed in his prison cell in 1949 after the latest coup orchestrated by him.
    Sami al-Hinnawi did everything possible to achieve Antoun Saadeh dream of an united Fertile Crescent and so held a meeting between the Iraqi and Transjordanian Hashemites to create what would become a mouthful of an official country name : the Hashemite Social National Kingdom of Greater Syria and the first order of the day after unification was to establish an Anglo-Franco-Americanophile foreign policy on the surface, since it was argued that the Comintern had clearly supported Israel through political-diplomatic recognition and letting or helping Jewish people emigrate to what was still Mandatory Palestine, though not all of them agreed on it, but the fact of the matter is that they were surrounded by somewhat pro-Western countries by all sides such Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia, the first who had to concede territory to avoid a war with Mikoyan, the second who had almost their country carved up by the Soviet Union if it wasn’t for Anglo-American pressure and Saudi Arabia had already been friendly to the United States since its founding. Just as the Anglo-French recruited former SS and Wehrmacht men into the French Foreign Legion to patrol their dominions and the Americans procured “former” Drittes Reich personnel for their newly founded Central Intelligence Agency (notable recruitment including Friedrich Panzinger from the RSHA, Heinrich Müller from the Gestapo and Otto Ernst Remer from the Wehrmacht), so did the Syrians, Turks, Iranians and Saudis.

    Nowadays it is not a mystery of the availability of Germans in the mercenary and intelligence “markets” during the Cold War, but before the fall of Communism it wasn’t known : the rape of Germany and Austria (with an estimation of at least four million victims), pressing tens of millions of Germans into Gulag-style forced labour or mass deportations to Central Asia, the confiscation of foreign stocks,large amounts of German patents, copyrights and trademarks worth about 30 billion dollars and relocation through dismantling and relocation of surviving German industries to the Soviet Union.
    Japan fared a little better than Germany, but the Tokyo Trials were largely influenced by the Soviet’s Berlin Trials and the leaking of documents to the press of the Truman administration who wanted an US friendly Japan and in order to do so it would mean sparing many war criminals and intentionally sabotaging the trials ; the latter caused a scandal and uproars from surviving POWs of the Wallies not only in the United States but in France, United Kingdom, Indonesia and the Phillipines and consecutively the prosecutors only spared the Showa Emperor and his family, but all of people on trial would get the death sentence, indirectly ensuring left or left-leaning dominance in Japanese elections for a long period of time, which is ironic to think it would have been dead on arrival if Mosobaru Suzuki had vetoed Tetsu Katayama proposed budget, but historians dismiss this considering Shigeru Yoshida and McArthur’s violent repressions of the 1946-1947 riots after the strike organizers had become confrontational, which turned Japanese public opinion against the American sponsored transitional government, and it would be be clearly in the names of the successors for the IJA as the People's National Defense (人民国防
    Jinmin Kokubō) and the IJN People’s Defensive Navy
    (人民防衛海軍 Jinmin Bōei Kaigun) and the police would be remade National People's Militia Agency (国民民兵庁 Kokumin Minpei-chō), much to the chagrin of the
    Gaijin Shōgun, the American President and the Emperor, with many proposals to putsch the leftists governments being discussed by the Truman and later by Eisenhower administrations, especially when Japan’s in 1959 secretly purchased many MiG-21 Forsirovannyy as well hundreds of thousands and MPi-KM assault rifles from the USSR through Germany. In 1951 when the peace was definitively signed, American troops were out, with Eisenhower calling it Truman Troubles : "We spilled our blood to subdue aJapan only for MacArthur and my predecessor to turn it into a pinko monarchy".

    The same could not be said of China, one of the main issues of Eisenhower was an Asia First policy in the yet-to-be declared anti-communist policy, because no amount of re-assurances from his old war buddy Zhukov would convince him that Mikoyan didn’t plan aggressively to expand and he was, unlike his predecessor, in favor of preserving the Anglo-French empires and that as many countries stayed non-communist as possible, so he it was necessary to create an equivalent to the Comintern to defend from a possible Soviet invasion of Asia and Europe, therefore after he started massive public relations, logistics and supply campaign for the Nationalists in China and after months of intense fighting, the two sides and their “sponsors” came to a diplomatic agreement and borders were drawn : Sinkiang would become a satellite of Soviet Union, while Inner Mongolia would be annexed into Mongolia proper, Mao would be left with the majority of what remained of China with the exception of the South-West controlled by the KMT and associates, while Shangai would revert to their pre-1943 status; both Chinese sides, unlike their backers, were left deeply bittersweet and dissatisfied to be at the mercy of European power (but there was little room to discussion with the two nuclear armed states), especially Mao, with the Soviet-American arrangement sowing the seeds of war thirty years later.



    When peace was achieved in China, Eisenhower went into laying the groundwork of the Pact of Allied Collective Collaboration Assistance Treaty Organization, signed in Washington between the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Portugal, Spain (despite initial protestations), Iceland, the Kingdom of Serbia, the kingdom of Montenegro, the State of Albania,Greece, Bulgaria, Croatia and lastly France and Italy, the most difficult of all since the Bel Paese held his terra irredenta that France claimed as legitemely theirs, but the matter was resolved through monetary reparations ; membership for Czechoslovakia, Romania, Denmark, Hungary, Turkey and Sweden were also discussed but the timing was still considered intensely inappropriate from a diplomatic-strategic perspective and have the potential to create tensions which were still not there, but Eisenhower secretly authorized financing any political party or entity that even looked mildly opposed to communism and the Soviet Union. PACCATO would later absorb “spin-off” organizations like SEATO and the Middle East Treaty Organization.



    With the exception of the assassination of Italian Communist leader Togliatti and the conclusion of the last phase Chinese Civil War and the threats launched against Bhose and Free India, Eisenhower’s first term (and the first phase of the Cold War) afterwards became a staring contest between Washington and Moscow, the latter which was also preparing itself.
    The Soviet Union not only had twenty million victims in four years of conflict but the damage was enormous and the recently failed putsch in Czechoslovakia agitated Mikoyan a lot, so the political grip was tightened in many aspects, but the economic control was being let more loose after Malenkov’s proposal were accepted as politically sound despite opposition from the hardliners, but the Armenian leader was able to found a middle ground, especially when he had reportedly told them : “We have troves and troves of human treasures from our defeated foe comrades! We might as well use them!”
    Everyone from German “experts” like Wehrner Von Braun and Heisenberg to the P.O.Ws was put to work, with the only difference being the mortality rate : 88% of captured German and former Axis soldiers perished while rebuilding the Soviet Motherland and the remaining were sent to Siberia or Kazakhstan.
    Mikoyan also changed some of the administrative divisions of the Soviet Union : the first was re-attaching Nakhichevan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic and Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast to the Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic, then Russophone majority areas of Ukraine and Kazakhstan and the autonomous oblast of Crimea were transferred to the RSFSR; meanwhile the Baltic Soviet Republics were united into one, creating the Baltic Soviet Republic. Other relevant border changes was Mikoyan giving back Lwow and Wilno to Poland, as well as transferring Królewiec and Kłajpedy, to ameliorate relations between the Union and their puppet state , with the same thing happening with Slovenia which was compensated with Koroška (Carinthia) and the districts of Lipnica (Leibnitz), Lonč (Deutschlandsberg) and Jugovzhodnaštajerska (Südoststeiermark), and with the transfer finalized Mikoyan started to re-initiate Germany as an allied satellite buffer puppet state against the grand coalition that was forming under the US.
    The start of 1949 saw the USSR engage in many court proceedings against its own soldiers since they had to stop excesses of the Red Army and had to execute dozens of thousands because they were behaving like beasts, not to mention they had to deal with Werwolf insurgency remnants until their total annihilation at end of the year.
    The next year the Soviet Union created the Ministry for State Security, an intelligence service subservient to Moscow first and Berlin second, with Wilhelm Zaisser at its helm, who would later overthrow Walter Ernst Paul Ulbricht with Mikoyan’s blessing after the German Uprising of June ‘53 ; four years later, the short-lived National People’s Army was fused with the Minister of State security and became the National People's State Security Army (Nationale Volks Sicherheits Armee), solidifying his control over the country, only to die a year later and succeeded by his deputy Erich Fritz Emil Mielke.

    EISENHOWER PRESIDENCY (1949-1957)

    After the failures of the short Truman presidency, who despite his failures still remained the favorite son of the Democratic Party, Eisenhower decided to be the face of the Republicans, although it would take months for him to take a running mate, until when someone proposed a little known member of the U.S. House of Representatives from California , precisely 12th district, Richard Nixon, who had defeated "Jerry" Voorhis in the 1946 election.
    It is still unclear how Nixon became an option and how the improbable final selection happened, especially because there was a somewhat adversarial relationship between the two, but it is speculated that Eisenhower preferred a fellow colleague of the United States Armed Forces than any politicos.
    During his first term, the recent Marshall Plan was greatly expanded and the newborn Central Intelligence Agency was dispatched to covertly help the allies of the United States against communist subversion…

    TO BE CONTINUED...
     
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    EISENHOWER-STASSEN PRESIDENCIES (1949 -1965)




    If WWII was won with British intelligence, American steel and Russian blood, the empires of yore would be kept intact until the first biennium of the Eighties thanks to American intelligence and money and German blood and sweat.



    Eisenhower and Stassen had inherited a delicate situation with the Truman administration. Helping Chiang Kai Shek had avoided a domino effect which could have spilled over into neighboring French Indochina, Thailand and Ba Maw’s State of Burma, but the British loss of India proved to be a difficult challenge, almost compromising London’s empire, but unlike his predecessor, Ike was less for self-determination, as demonstrated his acceptance of Ethiopia’s annexation of Italian Somalia and Eritrea; Americo-Indian relations were strained to say the least and while the United States had normalized relations with Bhose just as they had done with Sukarno, the membership of Portugal and France which guaranteed no further territorial concessions or modification, meaning their overseas exclaves were also guaranteed protection and soon Bhutan, Nepal and Afghanistan (which was enlisted by the British against Bhose and got compensated with Sind, Balochistan, Indian Pashtunistan, but failed to take Punjab) were safeguarded against Free India’s potential aggressions; following the resolution of the Chinese Civil War, the administration had another headache but more close to home : the Puerto Rican Revolt ; the unincorporated territory had exploded in anger after decades of occupation and the Puerto Rican Nationalist Party had taken advantage of the absence of the overwhelming majority of the National Guard that was yet to return from China and easily took over the island, demanding justice and freedom and Ike was undecided on how to properly react and before anyone could suggest a military intervention or a similar move Stassen argued to work out a deal with the PRNP , proposing to Puerto Rican inhabitants the choice of a referendum in which they could choose to be incorporated into the Union as a new state or indepedence but this last option would have also the obligation of Puerto Rico joining not only the Organization of American States but the PACCATO alliance as well.

    Unsurprisingly with the PRNP control, most of their compatriots voted to be independent despite the catch of having to still be aligned with the United States even though de facto Puerto Rico wouldn’t even try to contribute anything significant during the Lukewarm War, but Eisenhower and Stassen had saved face for the time being. Their attention soon turned to the Philippines and British Malaya : both had to be dealt with quickly to show that Communism wouldn’t be tolerated ; so the United States Armed Forces in China were sent to those lands and brutally suppressed both rebellions with total media silence and by February 1951 both Communist Party of Malaya (CPM) and the Partido Komunista ng Pilipinas-1930 were nearly extinct and no longer a preoccupation for the Eisenhower administration, who by then had its attention returned its attention to Japan once more, Treaty of Peace with Japan in San Francisco being signed the 8th September 1951, with Eisenhower bitterly agreeing to it despite they had to recognize Soviet authority and claims over South Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands while at the same time renouncing any idea of military bases in Japan.

    It wasn’t long before another foreign issue came to Washington's attention, this time in Africa with the Mau Mau Uprising of the next year, with the administration reacting the same way they had done in British Malaya and the Philippines : with efficient brutality while supported by the “Germans of the French Foreign Legions”, former Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS personnel that now were footsoldiers, drill sergeants and other jobs in the French Colonial Empire.

    It wasn’t all of a success for Ike however : the Central Intelligence Agency attempted regime changes in Egypt, Iran, Costa Rica, Guatemala and Paraguay had failed and it was clear as day that Washington D.C. wouldn’t always get its way; if that wasn’t enough, in 1955 the Buraimi dispute turned into a war between the US-friendly Saudia Arabia and PACCATO member United Kingdom, with the peace treaty granting the Aden Protectorate the previously lost by Yemen regions of Asir, Qunfudah,Al Bahah, Jizan and Najran, meanwhile the Trucial states got a land connection with Kuwait who would also get its claims validated and recognized; recently available documents clearly show that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was the aggressor, but the threats made Saud bin Abdulaziz Al Saud regarding petrol had an effect of galvanizing the VP to promote energetic self sufficiency and started a program for using the power of the atom to achieve such goal.

    In the last two months of the year it became evident of the instability of the French Republic, or so it seemed according to badly researched investigations and intelligence reports, probably exacerbated by the more often than not independent-minded French political class.

    Stassen had to be convinced strongly it was utterly necessary to do something about the French Republic, especially because he had seen the miserable spectacles that were their past tries at interventions, rightfully pointing out their (reluctant) “allies” Spain and Portugal, who were also “recipients” of German veterans and American money, refused the help of their intelligence due to the pathetic failures that were the attempted topplings of King Farouk, Mossadegh and Arbenz which made the two Iberian autocracies realize that the Americans were incompetent in regard with espionage and counter-intelligence and had to be on their own.


    Eisenhower was clear:


    << Unlike the Italians, where the far opposite sides of the political spectrum had found quid pro quos with the center, the French socio-political situation is volatile. >>


    The Vice-President had unfortunately already used his political capital with Ike in persuading him to reply to Emmet Till’s mother's letter, a move that could have very well compromised his chance to become President.


    <<I don’t want to put in charge people who shot our boys in France who sided with Hitler rather than their own countrymen >>


    Eisenhower did agree with the sentiment and when Operation Gaul was enacted in the latter half of January 1956 the a rag-tag of military personnel of former Free French, whose first target after the government was none other than the man that had been their leader in wartime : De Gaulle. It is unclear how the Marshall of Free France met his untimely demise, but if reports from the Direction générale de la sécurité intérieure archives are not taken as pure speculation, he was tied, blindfolded and shot in the head, subsequently buried in the first pit found and many met an identical fate such as Minister of the Overseas François Mitterrand.

    The Central Intelligence Agency and the “National Security Government” would give the same treatment to the opposite ends of the political spectrum : the Socialists lost Vincent Auriol, Daniel Mayer Guy Mollet and of the Communists only Waldeck Rochet didn’t meet the firing squad like Thorez, meanwhile former Axis collaborators like Jean-Louis Tixier-Vignancour either fled or got shot in the streets and the only surviving member of the French Action party was Georges-Paul Wagner unlike Pierre Boutang and others who would meet the guillotine in an almost tragi-comical repeat of history.

    the “mois de silence” would be seen as a Robespierre-an and Stalin-esque show trials and purges but barely reported anywhere in the supposedly free world. Anyone who the government thought could potentially threaten the stability of the French Republic and her overseas territories was either on the government hit list or had been on the literal or metaphorical chopping block.

    The new “French State” would serve the interests of PACCATO no matter who was in charge and effectively, with the exception of the nuclear program, the military governments of the “Période directoriale américaniste” were the Parisian puppet-like extensions of Washington D.C.


    A first major (although diplomatic) victory against Moscow came with the 1956 Poznań protests, where a hundred thousands Polish protesters clashed against the Polish People's Army, Internal Security Corps and Służba Bezpieczeństwa, all commanded by none other than Anatol Fejgin on orders of Ministers of Internal Affairs of People's Republic of Poland Salomon Morel, former commander of the Zgoda labour camp and Jaworzno concentration camps, with him treating the protesters as “enemy insurgents and combatants” and the result was near chaos : over thirty-thousands protesters dead and nearly seven thousands wounded, but the government forces suffered eight-thousand dead and three hundred and half wounded, the consequences of this violent response was a full blown revolution due to word of mouth that grew so much that many Soviet and Polish military barracks got overpowered by massive waves of angry mobs, but the stroke that broke the camel's back was the execution of non-tenured professor of Catholic University of Lublin Karol Józef Wojtyła.


    Soon, banners could be seen everywhere with written :


    NIGDY WIĘCEJ! (NEVER AGAIN!)


    PAMIĘTAJ WOJTYŁA! (REMEMBER WOJTYLA!)


    Mikoyan was, understandably, livid. And panicking at the same time. Many wanted to invade to restore order, especially Molotov’s faction, but allegedly Zhukov had enough sway to convince Anastas that such action would compromise the public image of the Soviet Union.

    Swallowing his pride, when Stassen proposed the USSR a neutral Poland, he accepted, but the Withdrawal Treaty that came with it had a couple of written clauses in which the Central European nation could not join any alliance and couldn’t ban the Polish United Workers' Party. The barely organized Polish revolutionary leadership, despite expressing enourmous outrage, accepted. As the last of Soviet soldiers and People’s Army withdrew, the Polish government-in-exile quickly flew and returned to Poland to organize the first (actually free) election of Poland in decades, with victory awarded to Tadeusz Bielecki with the promise of “NEVER AGAIN!”.


    A transcript of a recording between an operative and Mikoyan reports the following :


    From Nikolay [REDACTED]


    “Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Soviet Union Anastas Ivanovich Mikoyan, we lost Poland due to the brutal brainless machinations of Fejgin and Morel and I had told my superior that both were liabilities to the cause of the Communist International. Morel used methods which could only be described as butchery, I don’t think even the Fascists me and my comrades fought in the Great Patriotic War would go so low as them. It is no surprise that the Polish workers reacted as they did by defenestrating and impaling Fejgin and tearing apart Salomon.


    I would advise a cautious approach from now on.”



    As if a heart attack that hit Eisenhower in 1955 had not been enough, he and Stassen had to deal with the Civil Rights Movement, with the American Vice President strongly lobbying for much integration efforts, publicly declaring support for the U.S. Supreme Court decisions in Sweatt v. Painter (1950) McLaurin v. Oklahoma State Regents (1950) and Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka (1954), and pushed the general turned President to reply to Emmet Till’s mother’s letter, with Ike remarking later in life that Stassen was too much vocal and too partisan for being a second-in-command, expressing that he was surprised that they were both elected for two consecutive terms when “ everything Stassen did or said had the potential to compromise my presidency and his political future… I honestly don’t know what shocked me more, that he managed to win the primaries both times or that he won the elections in 1956 and 1960”.

    They also had to constantly deal with the increasing Red Scare and McCarthyism, who “had the decency of dying of alcohol poisoning” shortly after the beginning of the Sputnik Crisis in December 1956.

    When he was inaugurated, Stassen first priority was to understand why the Tech Gap was happening and set the Central Intelligence Agency to find out answers : with many operators of the bureau, it was discovered that the Soviets shortly before “liberating” Norway, the Low Countries and Germany had initiated Operation Osoaviakhim which wielded enormous results for the Soviet Union, not only as a bittersweet recompense but also to attempt to close the military gap Moscow had, with the hundreds of former Nazis experts helping Mikoyan’s Comintern to surpass the Americans in those fields in that period of time, later becoming the reason for legitimising and kickstarting the Comintern cybernetics camp.

    Sergei Pavlovich Korolev couldn’t ask for better help in his projects than the Third Reich’s former employees, a sentiment shared by many of his colleagues and affiliates such as the mathematician Mstislav Keldysh and Igor Kurchatov, the latter bittersweetly remarking “We wouldn’t had the power of the atom so quickly if we hadn’t spilled so much blood to conquer Germany”.

    The list the CIA recovered was enourmous :

    Aeronautics and rocketry


    Eugen Sänger

    Hans Amtmann

    Herbert Axster

    Erich Ball

    Oscar Bauschinger

    Hermann Beduerftig

    Rudi Beichel

    Anton Beier

    Herbert Bergeler

    Magnus von Braun

    Wernher von Braun

    Ernst Czerlinsky

    Theodor Buchhold

    Walter Burose

    Adolf Busemann

    GN Constan

    Werner Dahm

    Konrad Dannenberg

    Kurt H. Debus

    Gerd De Beek

    Walter Dornberger - head of rocket programme

    Gerhard Drawe

    Friedrich Duerr

    Ernst R. G. Eckert

    Rudolph Edse

    Otto Eisenhardt

    Krafft Arnold Ehricke

    Alfred Finzel

    Edward Fischel

    Karl Fleischer

    Anton Flettner

    Anselm Franz

    Herbert Fuhrmann

    Ernst Geissler

    Werner Gengelbach

    Dieter Grau

    Hans Gruene

    Herbert Guendel

    Fritz Haber

    Heinz Haber

    Karl Hager

    Guenther Haukohl

    Karl Heimburg

    Emil Hellebrand

    Gerhard B. Heller

    Bruno Helm

    Rudolf Hermann

    Bruno Heusinger

    Hans Heuter

    Guenther Hintze

    Sighard F. Hoerner

    Kurt Hohenemser

    Oscar Holderer

    Helmut Horn

    Hans Henning Hosenthien

    Dieter Huzel

    Walter Jacobi

    Erich Kaschig

    Ernst Klauss

    Theodore Knacke

    Siegfried Knemeyer

    Heinz-Hermann Koelle

    Gustav Kroll

    Willi Kuberg

    Werner Kuers

    Hermann Kurzweg

    Hermann Lange

    Hans Lindenberg

    Hans Lindenmayer

    Alexander Martin Lippisch

    Robert Lusser

    Hans Maus

    Helmut Merk

    Joseph Michel

    Hans Milde

    Heinz Millinger

    Rudolf Minning

    William Mrazek

    Hans Multhopp

    Erich Neubert

    Hans von Ohain

    Robert Paetz

    Hans Palaoro

    Kurt Patt

    Hans Paul

    Fritz Pauli

    Arnold Peter

    Helmuth Pfaff

    Theodor Poppel

    Werner Rosinski

    Heinrich Rothe

    Ludwig Roth

    Arthur Rudolph

    Friedrich von Saurma

    Edgar Schaeffer

    Martin Schilling

    Helmut Schlitt[

    Albert Schuler

    August Schulze

    Walter Schwidetzky

    Ernst Steinhoff

    Wolfgang Steurer

    Heinrich Struck

    Ernst Stuhlinger

    Bernhard Tessmann

    Adolf Thiel

    Georg von Tiesenhausen

    Werner Tiller

    JG Tschinkel

    Arthur Urbanski

    Fritz Vandersee

    Richard Vogt

    Werner Voss

    Theodor Vowe

    Herbert A. Wagner

    Hermann Rudolf Wagner

    Hermann Weidner

    Georg Rickhey - director of the slave labour Mittelwerk factory

    Walter Fritz Wiesemann

    Philipp Wolfgang Zettler-Seidel



    Architecture


    Heinz Hilten and Hannes Luehrsen.


    Electronics - including guidance systems, radar and satellites


    Wilhelm Angele

    Ernst Baars

    Josef Boehm

    Hans Fichtner

    Hans Friedrich

    Eduard Gerber

    Georg Goubau

    Walter Haeussermann

    Otto Heinrich Hirschler

    Otto Hoberg[

    Rudolf Hoelker

    Hans Hollmann

    Helmut Hölzer

    Horst Kedesdy

    Kurt Lehovec

    Kurt Lindner

    JW Muehlner

    Fritz Mueller

    Johannes Plendl

    Fritz Karl Preikschat

    Eberhard Rees

    Gerhard Reisig

    Harry Ruppe

    Heinz Schlicke

    Werner Sieber[

    Hans K. Ziegler

    Material Science (high temperature)

    Klaus Scheufelen


    Medicine . biological weapons, chemical weapons, and space medicine


    Theodor Benzinger, Rudolf Brill, Konrad Johannes Karl Büttner, Fritz Laves, Richard Lindenberg, Ulrich Cameron Luft, Walter Schreiber, Hubertus Strughold, Hans Georg Clamann, and Erich Traub.


    Nuclear Program



    Heinz Barwich

    Ludwig Bewilogua

    Erich Bagge

    Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker

    Max von Laue

    Karl Wirtz

    Karl-Hermann Geib

    Peter Adolf Thiessen

    Justus Mühlenpfordt

    Nikolaus Riehl


    Physics


    Gunter Guttein,

    Manfred von Ardenne

    Gustav Ludwig Hertz

    Gerhard Schwesinger

    Gottfried Wehner

    Helmut Weickmann and Friedwardt Winterberg.

    Chemistry and Chemical engineering

    Helmut Pichler

    Leonard Alberts

    Ernst Donath

    Josef Guymer

    Hans Schappert

    Max Josenhaus

    Kurt Bretschneider

    Erich Frese
     
    Replies and Italian Draft (Since this was to supposedly be about Italy and the South of the World)
  • TheRejectionist

    TheRejectionist
    Good stuff. I think you've nailed Stassen's character - certainly he must have not only been idealistic, but a pretty stubborn guy too, what with him running for president 13 times IRL. I'll guess that the Puerto Rican nationalists didn't launch an attack on the Capitol in your timeline as they did historically, both since you didn't mention it and because it would've invited a much harsher response from Washington than the relatively conciliatory one Stassen advocated.

    As far as the hard-line French leadership goes, my suggestion would be to look to the leaders of the 1958 and 1961 military coups. Although they may have been pretty brutal colonialists and counterinsurgency pioneers, the generals involved were aligned with Free France during WW2 and celebrated for it (Raoul Salan for example was the most decorated soldier in the French Army until he tried to overthrow De Gaulle IRL), so they should theoretically be a little less offensive to Stassen's and Eisenhower's sensibilities than straight up Vichy dudes would be. If they need a civilian puppet for legitimacy purposes, I would recommend looking up politicians with a pro-colonial record such as Georges Bidault.

    Only other recommendation I can think of at this time is that the new French regime should probably be called something other than the 'French State', since that was literally the official name of Vichy France. 'French Nation', perhaps, or 'French National State' just to distinguish it a little from the old collaborator state? Maybe even 'French Social Republic', there's an association with the Republic of Salò (AKA the Italian Social Republic) to worry about but maybe that's an obscure enough topic for the anti-De Gaulle plotters to get away with it.

    1. I reasoned that to save KMT China he had to do take troops somewhere. PR doesn't have a large force of US soldiers but if Ike's intention is to use all manpower available and the PRNP probably (if they would have been smart enough to be tactically sound) take the oppurtunity before even think hitting the Capitol. This approximately happens between 1948-1949. Can't find Stassen promoting nuclear energy though.
    2. Thanks for the comments on Stassen.
    3. Thanks for feedback on France.

    It actually could happen.In that situation,soviets could react to Poznań crisis like that.I see many commies running from Poland here - even if they are not banned,nobody would vote for them for next generation.
    And,Poland actually could become soviet ally on its own later,if they continue to be reasonable,and USA continue to be inneficient.

    Yeah it made sense.

    Now. About Italy :



    THE ITALIAN SITUATION



    The former Royal Italian Army wasn’t in the best shape to defend a country, in fact it was a miracle they had managed to defend Nizza, Savoy and Lubiana, Dalmatia,Istria and Cattaro. There was a general wish from the Prime Minister to rearm Italy for the potential conflict with the nations bordering them, namely the State of Croatia, the Kingdom of Serbia, the State of Montenegro and the Socialist Republic of Slovenia-Carinthia in the east, while on the North there was Soviet occupied Germany and on the west laid France itching for a rematch to take back the lost lands and Corsica.

    De Gasperi, but also controversially Togliatti, wanted to avoid another potential mutilated victory scenario which could form another Mussolini, gave a general amnesty to former royalists and fascists had a similar “treatment”, their crimes before taking up arms against the House of Savoy pardoned but not forgotten, which is why they were given few roles in the new governments, with only specials cases permitted to have participation such as Ettore Muti taking care of the military aviation (1) and Junio Valerio Borghese (2) taking care of the Navy instead, all the while being monitored by the previously monarchist Amedeo Guillet (3) who had become Minister of Defense.

    The order of the day was restoring the Bel Paese armed forces, so they three began with haste, with Muti having to rely on the few remaining Italian and former Luftwaffe planes and pilots, meanwhile Guillet could rely on a more vast assortment of both Italian and (surrendered) German veterans (including the notorious Rommel), the latter which brought a an enormous quantity of weapons, tanks, trucks and many other goods, both theirs and from the Soviets and Allies, which they could use and hopefully, reverse engineer what was feasible to do so.

    The “aeronautical” inventory from Germany :





    50 Messerschmitt Me 262


    10 Arado Ar 234 Blitz


    2 Messerschmitt Me P 08.01 (4)


    1 Horten Ho 229 , one of the only ten that survived which wasn’t captured by either by the Western Allies, as well as Horten Ho XVIII Amerikabomber prototype, who also


    The human capital for aviation, besides the many pilots, consisted of Hans Guido Mutke, Germany’s notorious fighter pilot, along with the Horten brothers, who didn’t want to surrender to or get captured by the USSR like many brilliant minds had tried; joining their newfound Italian benefactors was also Woldemar Voigt designed the Me 262 and P.1101 jet aircraft at Messerschmidt. Before the war's end he had redesigned the Me 262 by placing the turbines in the wing roots in Ultimate 262 HGII




    The army also had a plethora of tens of thousands of German equipment like MG43s, STG44s, MP40s, Mausers,


    Meanwhile the vehicles included mostly : Sonderkraftfahrzeug 251, Bergepanther,Panzer VI Ausf. B "Königstiger", Panzerkampfwagen Tiger Ausf. B Schwimmwagen, Flammpanzer VI , Sd.Kfz.231 8-Rad, Sd.Kfz.263 6-Rad , Sd.Kfz.234 Puma,



    Borghese unlike the army, had to work with much less numerous leftovers, he had what had survived intact of the Regia Marina, but he got lucky during a diplomatic mission to establish ties with Free India just a little over Bhose’s liberation of his country. He suggested to De Gasperi to send Italian orientalist, Indologist and scholar of East Asian studies Giuseppe Vincenzo Tucci as an unofficial ambassador and the result was an unintended stroke of luck for him and Muti, since the Netajii had still a morbid fascination with the deceased Duce. It turned out just as Italy had many leftover German combatants in his country, so did Free India had Japanese sailors, soldiers, planes and ships, including the famous Yamato and Musashi, who docked in India just as the atomic bombs were about to be dropped.
     
    Italy Discussions and an idea regarding George Wallace as President
  • TheRejectionist

    TheRejectionist
    @Circle of Willis I honestly I am bit of a loss about Italy, one of my own countries, as far as I am aware, I am the only Italian on the The Sietch. Are you aware of any other ? Because I am planning for a national democratic leftists government with Enrico Berlinguer (I argue that leftist that are both democratic, pro-working class and nationalist did exist in Italy, and are today represented by him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Rizzo and his party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_(Italy), who is running in this year's election) and a national populist by Giorgio Almirante, of the Italian Social Movement (in this world they are simply the National Movement).

    The only people I know THAT could help me get an idea are an alternatehistory.com but they are as well hard progressive (read sellouts).

    From Kolibri of alternatehistory.com there a some interesting ideas Does Your Conscience Bother You?- A George Wallace Victory TL what about Fullbright as VP ? What Chandler would need from GW to say "Ok I am gonna be your running mate?".
     
    My mother's situation & The Repository In Secret Projects Was Closed
  • TheRejectionist

    TheRejectionist
    Big update time !

    My mother's situation got better! The operation has success! While they only got like 90% of the cancer
    The guy running the forum thought it was TOOO off topic but he had his reasons and they were valid.

    I am starting to update what I have there... Yes I am going to doing also on the Sietch but I think for me to start ANOTHER thread for it.

    For @Circle of Willis : any clue who could be the worst democratic canditates and vps in 1964 and 1968 that ARE NOT Wallace ? I was thinking of an LBJ ticket (or why not let's go with fucking JFK, he probably will not have the same advantages he had in 1960-3) but you as an US citizen probably know of worse.

    Also a question : who would be the Minister of Interior in the US? I mean the one who takes care of internal security (police, law enforcement et al) because I couldn't fucking understand which "Secretary" did that and was thinking of sorta name dropping Dewey (he doesn't look like the type that would run AGAINST war hero Eisenhower in 1948) but for his stance on crime he would be a nice addition against crime.

    I was thinking also

    What events could different in the US and worlwide between 1956 that could go different? I am kinda planning for the Conspiracy of the Pure (the 1956 coup attempt against Batista, it's only in Spanish the article in Wikipedia) and have a better Cuba-American relations since Stassen was much more moderate regarding Cuba , was looking for also to someone photoshop Eisenhower or Stassen with Castro.

    @Batrix2070 @ATP I am gonna use some of the companies, even though I think with Poland "out with Communism" in 1956 it is already a stretch for the ones being founded between 1959-1961 to still exist. It will be basically just name dropping because already making Italy alternate-history and US and world is already a lot.

    @Sergeant Foley it's gonna be a different timeline. The tendency of Alternate Histories, especially POST-1900 is that they go ONE OR ALL OF THEM OR SOME OF THEM : AS window dressing, overuse some tye of AH (Confederacy and Nazis anyone?), goes with Balkanization EXCESSIVELY, goes too good or too bad for some countries (like the Footprint of Mussolini).

    My idea is for some things to go "bad" or "good" or simply... middle way ? Like the USSR looses Poland and Czechoslovakia early and doesn't get countries like Romania to Albania. The USA doesn't get "my dick is better than yours" but it's just...chilling...until 1964. They also have "Whole Korea" but will not necesserally translate into a good factor for the US.

    AND THERE IS A LEFTIST(KINDA) Japanese Empire.

    France is dictatorial and want to get Britain also in that direction. But I don't plan to all go badly.

    Africa also hasn't seen yet decolonization. I want to get until present day, even if only superficially.

    Trying to find a logical way also for the USSR to not exist beyond 1981 instead of 1991 and avoiding the mess it was in our world.

    Also did I mention that Israel didn't have a war in 1952 and has to worry only about 3 (soon to be 2) neighbors instead of 4?
     
    Another series of drafts for the next update/chapters
  • TheRejectionist

    TheRejectionist
    FEARFUL FIFTIES


    Newly sworn in President Stassen's reaction to the list was nothing short of surprising shock.


    << What is more miraculous ? That we have a list of who our now enemy has or the fact they managed to get so many ? >>


    The Director of Central Intelligence who had substituted Dulles after the fiascos in Guatemala and Iran, Charles Pearre Cabell, was cautiously proud of the list. Twenty agents died for this little information.


    << The information however >> noted Stassen << is of little use to us, except give us motivation to make Congress see we need a proper budget to bridge the gap ! >>


    Everybody agreed on it and a draft was made to ask Congress for a billion dollars or slightly less to be given to the newborn American space program, as well as the Central Intelligence Agency, with Cabell being encouraged to draw plans for infiltration into the Soviet Union. He probably knew what those plans would be. “Hiring as contractors former Wehrmact and Schutzstaffel. As well as their Eastern European Quislings!” and he would be proven right later on.


    Someone knocked on the door :


    << President Stassen ? >>

    His secretary.

    << Yes ? >>

    It was his secretary.

    << Attorney General Thomas Dewey is here to see you >>

    << Let him in >>

    Dewey was visibly stressed and it looked he was containing an outburst as furious as righteous :

    << Mister President, remember when you and Eisenhower asked me, before the election, to look into Fidel Castro’s opponents here and there in Cuba ? >>

    << I do. What can you tell me ? >>

    << Simply put…it is an excrement show ! >>

    Stassen remained silently puzzled :

    << President Stassen, many of them in question are connected with big corporations, organized crimes or even worse, both ! >>

    << Any examples ? >>

    << Meyer Lansky of the National Crime Syndicate; he is “upset” because the Cuban government coalition of Fidel Castro's 26th of July Movement has nationalized not only his hotel-casinos but and can be operated only by Cuban with gambling’s going to the general and with the proof the Cuban president has given Eisenhower during his visit here a couple of months ago, I have enough evidence to jail him. It …infuriates me…that lobbyists, criminals and congressmen ask us to… “do something” to protect alleged American interests!>>


    << You may proceed as you wish with no strings attached Dewey. Many call to suspend them from Inter-American Treaty of Reciprocal Assistance but I rather not, they are in our garden and neighbors and certainly do not wish to scare them into going into the Soviet’s arms because some gangster or crooked company lost their treasures. >>


    << Thanks Har…mister President >>


    Asking him to become Attorney General was perhaps the best choice. He will clean up the streets, thought the now president.

    But now he had more pressing matters : meeting with the new Italian and Polish ambassadors.


    Soon as the Tadeusz Bielecki’s government had begun reprivatization, with all seized property whose owners did not collaborate with either Nazi Germany or the USSR and were alive going back to them such as candy company E.Wendel, who was returned to its pre-war owner Jan Wendel, followed by a program of reclamation of estates by the landed gentry, one of the first of this operation was the last private owner of Zywiec Polish brewery as well as his Zywiec estates , former archduke Karol Albert Habsbursko-Lotaryński , reclaimed by his son Karol Stefan Maksymilian Ferdynand Narcyz Maria Habsbursko – Lotaryński due to his father psycho-physical condition being abysmal since he had taken refuge in Sweden due to the torture by Nazi occupiers.

    a program of total militarization which projected an estimate of 400 thousand active soldiers and it was speculated they wanted to achieve one million or more in a decade while at the same time they were planning for having a sizeable air force and a fleet (hopefully for them) to be able to carve out a seapath in case of war with the Comintern, because it bordered only two friendly neighbors : the restored Czechoslovak Republic and the Kingdom of Hungary, the latter who still had disputes over Őrvidék ( Burgenland ) with the Germans and Kárpátalja (Zakarpatska) with the Soviet Union and would be of little help if push come to shove; they were also in the talks to acquire Ambrosini Sagittario and the

    Captain Stefan Kenneth Janson (born Kazimierz Stefan Januszewski) was a Polish-born British firearms designer who worked for RSAF Enfield. One of a number of Polish immigrants who worked for RSAF Enfiel



    Kryptę


    @USSEssex @RazNaRok @kekw3 @Matej I am writing an alternate history, part of this story is most of central Europe never being liberated by the Soviets and Poland freeing itself after a brutal repression. I tagged you guys because I have no insight or personal acquaintance that can help with speculating military projects of Central Europe. What do you guys so far ?

    I haven’t written anything on Czechoslovakia because the point of divergence is in 1948 and imagining the story of a country when it’s that soon the “change” is rather difficult since I lack the context



    THE SCORNFUL SIXTIES


    In the aftermath of the Second World War, the Anglo-French Empires had fallen into severe debt and supposedly weren’t able to manage to keep it. However, they were kept on life support thanks to the Eisenhower-Stassen administrations since both presidents were vehemently opposed to upset (yet)the balance of power and buffer the European hegemonies offered, but there were some issues which were delicate.

    The first the two nations of the Low Countries , the Netherlands and Belgium, the first had seen its jewel of the empire, the Dutch East Indies, going independent and it sat in exile in the newborn “Kingdom of Suriname, Antilles and New Guinea” , basically a Dutch speaking Anglo-Franco-American co-dominium of sorts in all but name meanwhile the second was in a more precarious position with its “only” “territory” being the Belgian Congo, with discussions of an “union” with the BGIE (Belgian Government In Exile), which come into fruition after many concessions were made to minor independence leaders, the European settlers and exiles and the various Belgian companies, with the compromise of an United Nations supervision, with Baudoin as Sovereign King-Regent of Congo and Ruanda-Urundi, gaining the utter resentment of the Congolese population, who were dealt as swiftly as possible by Belgium's prime collaborateur, newly appointed Defence Minister Joseph-Désiré Mobutu, personally seeking to it and crushing with the help of foreign mercenaries and the Force Publique swelling with former German veterans, raising many concerns with neighboring Portugal and the United Kingdom for that. Stassen, again, wanted to keep the equilibrium but did so with grinned teeth and clenched fists as he would become more worried with the homefront due to the simple fact that the Lukewarm War had essentially become a sitting “tech” war where he and Mikoyan would menacingly stare at each other but except the Soviet First Secretary announcing support for Indonesia and supplying Jakarta with large amounts of modern and Great Patriotic War leftover weaponry, nothing was done , unless someone counts Rome’s 1960 Summer Olympics (Italian: Giochi Olimpici estivi del 1960) and the following Winter Olympics of the same year as geopolitical clashes between the two blocs, with the Soviet Union coming ahead of the United States, as it wasn’t enough boxer and gold medal winner Cassius Clay (later to be known as Muhammah Ali) used the occasion to spoke against the racial injustices occurring in his country, because there were still tensions arising between Black and White Americans, who were left head scratching with the Republican president due to his support for Civil Rights but at the same time supporting the (mainly) Anglo-French colonial territories around the world, just as when it backed British support for a secessionist movement in Natal after the former Union of South Africa had turned into a republic through referendum ; it didn’t make it easier Stassen had a serious problems when first the United States was technologically humiliated the next year with the first human orbital spaceflight in history of the Vostok 1 by Soviet cosmonaut Yuri Alekseyevich Gagarin on 12 April 1961 and then on May 14th 1961 Freedom Riders were burned alive at the outskirts of Anniston, Alabama and race riots broke out around the nation and the National Guard had to be deployed in several states but especially the Deep South as the widespread violence engulfed those areas, with massive retaliations on both sides and pushing “Stassenite'' Republicans further into the Civil Rights camp and making the Democrats furtherly reactionary for the time being, albeit with few notable exceptions such as John Fitzgerald Kennedy and (privately) George Armistead Smathers; it wouldn't be until November, just after the Ole Miss riots, that the situation would calm down, however another problem arose : the attempted invasion of Goa by Boseist India. Subhas Chandra Bose had made it clear since he had “liberated” most of India from the British but was still as zealous for a total ouster of European forces from the subcontinent and that included the Portuguese, who had stood idle in their neutrality in World War II; the Netaji thought the United States and the PACCATO alliance would dare intervene for the small Lusitanian enclaves, but when the Lisbon government invoked Article 5 it was a very short (mostly aero-naval) war where the USSR brokered a ceasefire by sheer nuclear menace, with the United States and Portugal meeting in Rome, Italy with Indian representatives, where a “peace” was strong armed to Bose in December 1962 who had to accept in perpetuity the Portuguese presence, in turn bringing India closer to the USSR, which was having problem of its own, because approximately twenty percent of the German population had fled (and similar figures were being reported in the Beneluxian puppet state) so the COMINTERN solution consisted in the building a 1143 kilometer series of border walls, officially with the justification of “defensive structuralization and construction against potential capitalist oppressive aggression”.

    Stassen watched in shock together with his PACCATO partner-collegue when it was being noticed when they were building walls in the Italian-German border and the Danish-German border as well and rapidly so. The Iron Curtain was going up and had enclosed the Low Countries and Germany into total isolation safe from COMINTERN allies.

    Many newspapers both domestic and foreign domestic, safe for France, criticized the U.S. president for its inaction but as his supporters and public relations department pointed out to his critics : “do you rather be comfortable, fed and healthy or you do want to be the exact contrary in order to stop the construction of a Communist wall?” implying the theory of mutually assured destruction if they challenged Premier Mikoyan over the construction of the wall.


    I will probably had bigger fish to fry.


    He did in fact.


    In March 1963, retired US Marine Lee Harvey Oswald used the alias "A. Hidell" to make a mail-order purchase of a secondhand 6.5 mm caliber Carcano rifle for $29.9 and had purchased a .38 Smith & Wesson Model 10 revolver with the same method, both of which were used to kill retired U.S. Major General Edwin Walker, on April 10, 1963 as Walker sat at a desk in his Dallas home.

    The case felt like a tinderbox, because the John Birch Society immediately accused the US government of allowing the murder of a patriot to happen on American sovereign soil while on the other hand many organization Civil Rights activists tried to appease public opinion by divulging Walker’s reputation as an outspoken segregationist, who had been relieved of his command of the 24th Division of the U.S. Army in the Saar Protectorate for distributing right-wing literature to his troops and who was arrested on insurrection, seditious conspiracy, and other charges and temporarily held in a mental institution on orders of Attorney General Dewey.

    Demonstrations and riots started almost immediately and Lee Harvey Oswald was postponed multiple times due to continuously growing tensions and if having internal instability wasn’t enough, the Lukewarm War was about to witness its first tumultuous period, with the homefront being rocked on September 15, 1963 when white supremacist terrorists bombed the 16th Street Baptist Church of Birmingham, Alabama, killing dozens and injuring hundreds


    Sukarno’s Indonesia had started a campaign of infiltration against Malaysia, Singapore,Brunei and the Dutch exiles’ Territory of New Guinea with support from the People’s Republic of (North West) China, the Soviet Union and other COMINTERN countries in logistics, supplies and “volunteers”, with many Indonesian “battalions” were entirely made up of Norwegians, Baltics, Beneluxians, Germans, Soviets and Chinese. Stassen, despite his own and his government reservations, drafted many young boys into the Army and unfortunately, as he had predicted, did not ease tensions, but at least he showed he wasn’t “a pinko or a softie on Communism”

    The Soviet Union, to support Sukarno and his Communist proxies and him initiated the month 1963 with the Moskalyov DSB-LK long-range supersonic strategic bomber over the Strait of Malacca just as they were sending tonnes both leftover and new weapons from the Democratic Republic of Germany and the People’s Republic of Benelux, consecutively Stassen followed this move

    by authorizing the usage of

    with more investment on research, defense and education to “one up” Moscow, unfortunately this included, due to the influence of both Republican and Democrat McCarthyites to send military advisors to Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei,Australia, New Zealand and Canada which in turn turned into also to send economic financial investment to those countries, as the drafted military “advisors” continued to exponentially increase as the months went by the liberal Republican president did not wish for an actual escalated intervention but at some point

    While the liberal faction of the Republican faction was firmly cemented, the conservative side of Stassen’s party wasn’t totally satisfied and issued a veiled threat of siding with the Democrats in the last year if he wouldn’t concede on a Conservative Republican ticket in the upcoming 1964 election. While initially opposed to this threatening proposal, Harold Stassen the soon to be ex President agreed on supporting Goldwater with the compromise they would accept Rockfeller as VP.







    NOTE : This a very SPECULATIVE part of mine due to time constraints, university schedules and lack of monetary resources as well as access to sources that are either in the four languages I know.


    1968 :



    Many people asked how the Soviet Union had managed to reach the moon before the United States, the allegedly greatest country of the world ; many would point out of the almost complete success of Operation Osoaviakhim over two decades which resulted in the USSR acquiring many German experts that did marginally accelerate the progress in many fields of science

    Aleksandr Ignatyevich Shargey (1) was a Soviet Ukranian engineer,theoretician, mathematician, Great Patrioc War veteran and visionary pioneer of astronautics and spaceflight in the early 20th century, who developed the first known lunar orbit rendezvous (LOR).

    Initially he was just an advisor on the Sputnik 1 program but several sources credit his wise insight to having contributed to making the satellite a reality much earlier than it was predicted initially. It is speculated he would have been involved in the VOSTOK 1 program as well but it is unclear why he wasn’t ; however a year later he was called for a secret meeting between him and Mikoyan who wanted him to report on the space programs of the USSR and when informed of them, Shargey replied :


    << Comrade Premier Mikoyan, why do we have space programs and not a space program ? >>


    << What do you mean, comrade Shargey? >>


    << It seems at first glance from you are referring to me of a situation where’s the lack of coordination and waste of resources, but I should verify in person before making any definitive conclusion >>


    In his personal diaries Shargey reported he expected a Stalinist response from Mikoyan and that he would end up in a gulag (again) at best or shot in the head for pointing out an obvious flaw in the Soviet system, but “luckily for me, Mikoyan wasn’t as intransigent as his predecessor and wanted results, as long as said result didn’t compromised him publicly, in front of the Party or both.”


    << I want you to make a report on our space programs… if your conclusion does coincide with what you just said, we might have more to discuss >>


    Aleksandr Ignatyevich Shargey was put to work immediately the next day and secretly “toured” the various programs with Artyom Ivanovich Mikoyan, the brother of the premier, who believed the space programs could also give contributions to his “sector” as well.


    When he returned to the Premier’s office, not only he had proof of what he had said previously but also that uselessly competing and bickering against one another and that “no amount of help, money or German experts would get us further… the capitalist United States will humiliate us in less than a decade unless something is done”. Mikoyan had Valentin Glushko, Mikhail Yangel, Vladimir Chelomei and Sergei Korolev convened in his office and they were submissively scolded into collaborating rather “wrecking” each other and they would be under Shargey’s supervision. The Osvobozhdeniye program, the unified space program, would be started immediately.

    Aleksandr Ignatyevich Shargey correctly predicted they could tail the United States’ program and successfully precede them in the “liberation of space” if the program was well funded and the resources located where they needed to be; Shargey, despite being Jewish, was also more of a pragmatist and realist compared to the colleagues who were subordinated to him and noticed there were some gaps in the Soviet research and with “heavy heart” recruited a former member of the Nazi Party and Allgemeine SS aerospace engineer and space architect Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun as an “assistant collaborator on the Osvobozhdeniye program”; later, when the moon landing successfully went through and the cosmonaut team safely re-entered Earth, the German ex-Nazi was awarded both in the Soviet Union and his home country and used as a propaganda tool for the COMINTERN to prove that Communism could redeem the humanity of a former despicable individual.


    The display of scientific advancement shocked and demoralized the United States and its allies, dooming Goldwater’s chances of re-election who would resign a week after the launch, leaving his office to Rockefeller.


    1. OTL Yuri Vasilyevich Kondratyuk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Kondratyuk in our world he died/disappeared in 1942 during WW2
     
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  • TheRejectionist

    TheRejectionist
    Good TL,but i have few questions:
    1.Was Missile gap real this time? becouse in OTL it was bullshit.

    2.Soviets with better coordination and von Braun could not only go to Moon,but also Mars - but,in second case,when von Braun was sure that his rocket would go to Mars,he was not so sure if astronauts manage to return safely.
    There was also some german who planned to bulid space plane named Thor.Sanger, i think.
    It would be less costly then rocket for low orbits,becouse could be re-used many times.

    3.Dutch and belgians with their exiled states - plausible.

    4.Poland would not buy from USA,but Sweden - and,rather buy some and produce in country,just like before WW2.
    They would certainly not want die for England again.

    5.India - they were pro-soviet OTL,so notching change.

    All in all,Strassen here look like Richelieu ,who persecuted protestand in his country,but supported in HRE.
    Here Strassen is persecutting racists in USA,and support in Africa.

    1. I don't think with Mikoyan there would be a push for spending money and resources into furthering the gap or make appear to believe so. So probably the American still believe it until OTL or just later. So yes it is still bullshit.
    2. I don't think the Soviets would get further than the Moon.
    3. There isn't much where they can go and I was inspired for Belgium by a verbal proposal of uniting Congo and Belgium that did happen in our world, of course it was never carried out in the first place.
    4. Who the fucks would want to die for perfidious and treacherous Albion?
    5. Yes but it happens MUCH later.
     
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  • TheRejectionist

    TheRejectionist
    Small idea I had that I might make in the future, honestly making this alternate history is already a complicated mess. I think once I put an end to it this timeline would be the last timeline I make after Roter Rhein.


    Stalin’s twenty-sixth year of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republican Union was proceeding smoothly despite the General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union mumbling to himself overthinking about his ongoing putsch against Tito. When Beria reported that the Yugoslav Chief of the General Staff with Colonel General Arso Jovanović, Major General Branko Petričević Kadja and Colonel Vladimir Dapčević had succeeded in removing and killing Tito, the Red Tsar called a meeting to celebrate , officially at least , the centralization of the RSFSRU, but in reality it was for the successful regime change. However, to mantain further secrecy, the first part of the meeting was dedicated to the commeration of the centralization, when Lenin "caved in" to Stalin's proposal of an united Russo-centric federation of "equals", but it did not take long for the subject to be changed into a discussion on the coup in Yugoslavia. Stalin said that, in hindsight, it was a bad idea to give Tito's Yugoslavia the go-ahead to merge Albania and Bulgaria into his country since he almost led Moscow and the rest of the liberated people's republic into a war with the West, who was more than happy to extend the Free Territory of Trieste to include Fiume, the whole Dalmatia and the Yugoslav Adriatic Islands after the brief border conflict he caused because he had decided to shoot down an United States plane.
     
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  • TheRejectionist

    TheRejectionist
    I did read your statement on Goldwater...but what about if he was VP as a token concession to the Conservative faction of the Republicans? Then when Rockefeller hits rock bottom and resigns (who wouldn't after loosing the space race?) Goldwater is President until of January.

    So it will become :

    "SCREW ROCKY AND BARRY THE JEW TOO"

    Thinking about it. I haven't written anything about Israel. Or the Nazis that fled the onslaught of the USSR. Rodzaesky the (actual) fascist Russian is still alive along with Philonazis too like the memey Taboritsky from HOI4 TNO mod.

    Problem is even having visited Israel I have no idea what it could happen.

    Because its neighbors are Greater Syria and Egypt are both monarchies , with the first being pan-Syrian rather than pan-Arab and the second a badly run kingdom. No Arab nationalist hold any power.

    I thought about Islamists but I have seen ANY indication the Muslim Brotherhood tried to take-over during the Coldwar except Syria in the 1980s. Not to mention that the SSNP all shtick was/is mandatory progressive secularist Pan-Syrianism.

    @Circle of Willis any thoughts ?
     
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