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Operation Gallop Part 2

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KUNTSEVO DACHA, FOUR YEARS LATER
Kolya wanted to have nothing to do with Zhukov as much as he did before, not after witnessing the annexation of Man'chzhuriya and the expulsion of what Stalin defined as the expulsion of wreckers, anti-revolutionaries and fascists after the Chinese Communist Party had declined to “cede” the region to the Soviet Union, leaving the majority of the population of the former Japanese puppet being Russian Whites, Japanese, and Koreans ( the latter probably tempted to leave and go to the Pyongyang in the United States Army Military Government in Korea Zone) or the mass expulsion of the last remaining Germans from what was now called Królewiec. He felt a deep sense of sadness knowing that the Man of Steel demonstrated little, if any, empathy towards formerly presumed allies and perceived defeated enemies, and showed no mercy or different treatment to them.

And he was still with Zhukov.

His personal photographer. Though he had felt more as his chaffeur and barista than a photographer.

<< Pour me another glass Nikolay >>

Driving and serving the Marshal was a risky hassle, but except for the near contortion he could do it without a problem. It annoyed him but there were advantages to be close to one of the heroes of the Soviet Union.

When they arrived at Stalin’s dacha, Kolya almost sighed a breath of relief. However, the sensation didn’t last for long, noticing immediately the guards were crying.



<< What happened ? >>

Asked Zhukov abruptly when he interpelled one of the soldiers sobbing.

<< Comrade Stalin is dead >>
Kolya stood still out of shock unlike the Marshall, who rushed immediately inside. The “photographer” followed suit but remained composed and serious, concentrating all of his energies in not crying or smiling.

The bastard is dead!

He was one of the few who had not lost any family members to the terrors of the NKVD and others, but the anguish consumated lots of his life. Or during the war. Kazan was a blessing. Now Stalin was dead and maybe…maybe he was safe.
He reached a room where Zhukov was sitting on a chair and standing up were Mikoyan, Molotov, Voroshilov, Kaganovich, Bulganin and others. Turns out Stalin had been dead for a week, but his inner circle had declared him dead that day and that was not good news for Zhukov.
Because Zhukov now was the “new Kalinin”, which meant his value was zero to the new government and that he would be powerless to stop or depose or whatever he would have potentially intended to do according to them. The new government was already organized : Mikoyan would become Chairman of the Council of Ministers and double as a Minister of Foreign Trade, Voroshilov would become Minister of Defense and Molotov retained the Foreign Affairs, meanwhile the Internal Affairs would be given to one of Beria’s favorites, a certain fellow called Ivan Serov.
Zhukov was intimately dismissed , but not Kolya. The photographer felt a chill down his spine when Mikoyan called on him to stay :

<< Nikolay…>>

<< Comrade Mikoyan >>

<< I heard you are good with languages…>>

<< I am, Comrade Mikoyan >>

<< Comrade Serov might need your help >>

Might. More like will. More like you will work for him from now. Kolya felt his heart aching at idea of being a lapdog servant of the intelligence. Ivan Serov took him aside afterwards and approached him with an eerie, uncanny valley smile.

<< Have you ever wished to travel the globe, Ilyanov? >>

<< No Comrade Serov >>

<< Well, you will pack your bags and like it. The world awaits! >>


God, I am working with demons now… what should do I do ?

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POSTWAR
Kolya had been sent by Serov to analyze the Balkans as well as Italy for prospects of exploitation for a people’s revolution. But the situation was more complicated than he expected, what happened in Italy was a very unusual war, not just because it happened at the same time of the Balkan Border conflicts as Romania, Croatia, Serbia, Albania, Bulgaria fought as they withdrew from the Axis what can be considered borderline “every man for himself” wars, but because it had united a rag-tag of republicans, former hierarchs (or underlings) and leftists and communists, who had been also fighting between each other the day before but now were starting to realize they shared a common enemy : the Savoy royal family with their loyalist army, the latter which was too busy protecting what little they had gained in barely more than two years of war in the east against (soon to be former) Yugoslav partisans, from Lubiana to Cattaro, and in the west from Ennesì to Nizza against the French resistance. This situation lead to the unpredictable outcome of the emergence of a literally unknown Sicilian landlord and agricultural entrepreneur by the name of Silvio Milazzo, who had seen the writing on the wall of the monarchy with the demise of Hitler which ultimately led to Mussolini’s downfall and execution and sought to exploit it, starting to contact what would have been potential partisan-like organizations in the style of France and Yugoslavia and die-hard (and not so much) followers of Mussolini, uniting what nowadays are described as the right and the left against the (in that case monarchist) “center”, as well as people such as the President of the Confindustria Giuseppe Volpi.

In a matter of a few months, what began as multiple minuscule insurrections became a general uprising with no political inclinations but anti-monarchist sentiment which depleted the loyalist forces not only of resources but of the will to fight after the victories in the East and West, with very few hardline monarchists still holding on.

The political situation post-conflict was … weird. Milazzo had been a good leader for the fight but not so much for keeping said leader position in times of peace and while he wouldn’t be forgotten, his career as a national figure head was over ; expectedly, new parties formed just as soon as the shooting stopped, all originally separate parties that merged in a matter of weeks : National Liberal Republican Christian Democratic Union Bloc (Blocco dell'Unione Democratica Cristiana Nazionale Liberale Repubblicana) with Alcide De Gasperi as chief and Luigi Einaudi as deputy, with the third in command being Randolfo Pacciardi, then there was the National Movement (Movimento Nazionale), headed by journalist Giorgio Almirante (whose past article Defence of the Race was made even more public seemed to affect little the party’s electoral result) and finally the coalition of the Popular Democratic Front for Freedom, Peace, Labour, overtaken recently by mostly socialists and social democrats at the expense of the communists and namely Togliatti.

In his report, Kolya wrote to Serov that just as the Balkans, Hungary and Czechoslovakia after the failure of the 1948 putsch, the best they could hope was to get the same deal they had given to Finland (a “cordial” neutrality) and would wait for his next reassignment.

He prayed with a hush voice to himself : Saint George the Dragon slayer, please help me out of this nightmare.


NOTES :



What changed from our world in this alternate universe (thanks to the early death of Hitler) ?


Italy and the Balkan allies of the Third Reich, while violently, jump ship as soon as the Austrian heroin-addicted failed painter is publicly world known to be dead, preserving most of their gains and out of Stalin’s deadly grasp.

However…

Norway, Denmark, (what remains) Slovenia, Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands and the whole of Germany and Austria share the grisly endwar with Poland, Czechoslovakia and the Baltic countries ; in addition the ethnic cleansing of postwar Europe still happens but the roles are reversed.


I hope clear, it is just an inversion of “fate” for narrative purposes, I do not condone any type of violence whether religious, ethnic OR socio-political.


Returning to the subject at hand :


Italy also is seeing a MAJOR DIFFERENCE. Instead of getting a much less worse deal THAN what Germany got, the country goes out without an inch since Hitler’s successor was too busy keeping morale up as long as the Italian king didn’t actually go along with the Allies, which doesn’t even happen here.


So why Fascists, Communist all the sudden unite ? Beyond what I wrote, I don’t have what could be considered a realistic explanation, although his based on a real event :

https://www.ansa.it/valledaosta/not...esi_28863ed1-979b-4224-8ce0-3de423892f13.html where fascist and partisans united against the French forces.


Silvio Milazzo and Volpi also are not works of fiction : you can both read about them on Wikipedia (I don’t think there are sources about them in English). The first became famous for uniting the neofascists and communists of Sicily against the Christian Democracy in the late ‘50s , the second was fascist then helped the resistance after 1943.

Teasers :

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/attachments/italian-coat-of-arms-by-therejectionist-png.680943/



Edit : changed from four to three parties forming after TTL Italian Civil War.
 
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Gallop Part 3

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KUNTSEVO DACHA, FOUR YEARS LATER
Kolya wanted to have nothing to do with Zhukov as much as he did before, not after witnessing the annexation of Man'chzhuriya and the expulsion of what Stalin defined as the expulsion of wreckers, anti-revolutionaries and fascists after the Chinese Communist Party had declined to “cede” the region to the Soviet Union, leaving the majority of the population of the former Japanese puppet being Russian Whites, Japanese, and Koreans ( the latter probably tempted to leave and go to the Pyongyang in the United States Army Military Government in Korea Zone) or the mass expulsion of the last remaining Germans from what was now called Królewiec. He felt a deep sense of sadness knowing that the Man of Steel demonstrated little, if any, empathy towards formerly presumed allies and perceived defeated enemies, and showed no mercy or different treatment to them.

And he was still with Zhukov.

His personal photographer. Though he had felt more as his chaffeur and barista than a photographer.

<< Pour me another glass Nikolay >>

Driving and serving the Marshal was a risky hassle, but except for the near contortion he could do it without a problem. It annoyed him but there were advantages to be close to one of the heroes of the Soviet Union.

When they arrived at Stalin’s dacha, Kolya almost sighed a breath of relief. However, the sensation didn’t last for long, noticing immediately the guards were crying.



<< What happened ? >>

Asked Zhukov abruptly when he interpelled one of the soldiers sobbing.

<< Comrade Stalin is dead >>
Kolya stood still out of shock unlike the Marshall, who rushed immediately inside. The “photographer” followed suit but remained composed and serious, concentrating all of his energies in not crying or smiling.

The bastard is dead!

He was one of the few who had not lost any family members to the terrors of the NKVD and others, but the anguish consumated lots of his life. Or during the war. Kazan was a blessing. Now Stalin was dead and maybe…maybe he was safe.
He reached a room where Zhukov was sitting on a chair and standing up were Mikoyan, Molotov, Voroshilov, Kaganovich, Bulganin and others. Turns out Stalin had been dead for a week, but his inner circle had declared him dead that day and that was not good news for Zhukov.
Because Zhukov now was the “new Kalinin”, which meant his value was zero to the new government and that he would be powerless to stop or depose or whatever he would have potentially intended to do according to them. The new government was already organized : Mikoyan would become Chairman of the Council of Ministers and double as a Minister of Foreign Trade, Voroshilov would become Minister of Defense and Molotov retained the Foreign Affairs, meanwhile the Internal Affairs would be given to one of Beria’s favorites, a certain fellow called Ivan Serov.
Zhukov was intimately dismissed , but not Kolya. The photographer felt a chill down his spine when Mikoyan called on him to stay :

<< Nikolay…>>

<< Comrade Mikoyan >>

<< I heard you are good with languages…>>

<< I am, Comrade Mikoyan >>

<< Comrade Serov might need your help >>

Might. More like will. More like you will work for him from now. Kolya felt his heart aching at idea of being a lapdog servant of the intelligence. Ivan Serov took him aside afterwards and approached him with an eerie, uncanny valley smile.

<< Have you ever wished to travel the globe, Ilyanov? >>

<< No Comrade Serov >>

<< Well, you will pack your bags and like it. The world awaits! >>


God, I am working with demons now… what should do I do ?

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

POSTWAR
Kolya had been sent by Serov to analyze the Balkans as well as Italy for prospects of exploitation for a people’s revolution. But the situation was more complicated than he expected, what happened in Italy was a very unusual war, not just because it happened at the same time of the Balkan Border conflicts as Romania, Croatia, Serbia, Albania, Bulgaria fought as they withdrew from the Axis what can be considered borderline “every man for himself” wars, but because it had united a rag-tag of republicans, former hierarchs (or underlings) and leftists and communists, who had been also fighting between each other the day before but now were starting to realize they shared a common enemy : the Savoy royal family with their loyalist army, the latter which was too busy protecting what little they had gained in barely more than two years of war in the east against (soon to be former) Yugoslav partisans, from Lubiana to Cattaro, and in the west from Ennesì to Nizza against the French resistance. This situation lead to the unpredictable outcome of the emergence of a literally unknown Sicilian landlord and agricultural entrepreneur by the name of Silvio Milazzo, who had seen the writing on the wall of the monarchy with the demise of Hitler which ultimately led to Mussolini’s downfall and execution and sought to exploit it, starting to contact what would have been potential partisan-like organizations in the style of France and Yugoslavia and die-hard (and not so much) followers of Mussolini, uniting what nowadays are described as the right and the left against the (in that case monarchist) “center”, as well as people such as the President of the Confindustria Giuseppe Volpi.

In a matter of a few months, what began as multiple minuscule insurrections became a general uprising with no political inclinations but anti-monarchist sentiment which depleted the loyalist forces not only of resources but of the will to fight after the victories in the East and West, with very few hardline monarchists still holding on.

The political situation post-conflict was … weird. Milazzo had been a good leader for the fight but not so much for keeping said leader position in times of peace and while he wouldn’t be forgotten, his career as a national figure head was over ; expectedly, new parties formed just as soon as the shooting stopped, all originally separate parties that merged in a matter of weeks : there was National Christian Democratic Union with Alcide De Gasperi as chief and Luigi Einaudi as deputy, the National Liberal Republican Bloc of Randolfo Pacciardi, the

National Movement, headed by journalist Giorgio Almirante (whose past article Defence of the Race was made even more public seemed to affect little the party’s electoral result) and finally the coalition of the Popular Democratic Front for Freedom, Peace, Labour, overtaken recently by mostly socialists and social democrats at the expense of the communists and namely Togliatti.

In his report, Kolya wrote to Serov that just as the Balkans, Hungary and Czechoslovakia after the failure of the 1948 putsch, the best they could hope was to get the same deal they had given to Finland (a “cordial” neutrality) and would wait for his next reassignment.

He prayed with a hush voice to himself : Saint George the Dragon slayer, please help me out of this nightmare.


NOTES :



What changed from our world in this alternate universe (thanks to the early death of Hitler) ?


Italy and the Balkan allies of the Third Reich, while violently, jump ship as soon as the Austrian heroin-addicted failed painter is publicly world known to be dead, preserving most of their gains and out of Stalin’s deadly grasp.

However…

Norway, Denmark, (what remains) Slovenia, Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands and the whole of Germany and Austria share the grisly endwar with Poland, Czechoslovakia and the Baltic countries ; in addition the ethnic cleansing of postwar Europe still happens but the roles are reversed.


I hope clear, it is just an inversion of “fate” for narrative purposes, I do not condone any type of violence whether religious, ethnic OR socio-political.


Returning to the subject at hand :


Italy also is seeing a MAJOR DIFFERENCE. Instead of getting a much less worse deal THAN what Germany got, the country goes out without an inch since Hitler’s successor was too busy keeping morale up as long as the Italian king didn’t actually go along with the Allies, which doesn’t even happen here.


So why Fascists, Communist all the sudden unite ? Beyond what I wrote, I don’t have what could be considered a realistic explanation, although his based on a real event :

https://www.ansa.it/valledaosta/not...esi_28863ed1-979b-4224-8ce0-3de423892f13.html where fascist and partisans united against the French forces.


Silvio Milazzo and Volpi also are not works of fiction : you can both read about them on Wikipedia (I don’t think there are sources about them in English). The first became famous for uniting the neofascists and communists of Sicily against the Christian Democracy in the late ‘50s , the second was fascist then helped the resistance after 1943.

Teasers :

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/attachments/italian-coat-of-arms-by-therejectionist-png.680943/



THE ITALIAN SITUATION AFTER 1948 PART 1


The Italian situation had many contradictions. The first government of Italy was a coalition of the National Christian Democratic Union and the National Liberal Republican Bloc which collaborated with the other political forces except for the National Movement of Almirante, which was vehemently anti-American (1) unlike De Gasperi and Pacciardi, not to mention they had still to contend with the French who were clearly in the American camp and hadn’t recognized their territories being taken from them by the Bel Paese; a similar although much more lenient treatment was given to the Popular Democratic Front for Freedom, Peace, Labour because of the 404 km border (2) they shared with the soon-to-be German Democratic Republic and didn’t want to get an intervention from the Soviet Union and were in the process to negotiate a final peace deal, which was almost forfeited because of the enormous refugee exodus caused by the yet to be demobilized militias conducting anti-German pogroms just like the anti-Slavic forced relocations from Istria and Lubiana to Cattaro. (3).

Kolya was starting to ask himself if killing Hitler in Operatsiya Skachok was that all good in the end because he considered it to have caused more harm than good, this line of thought probably helped by the fact Serov had kept him “stationed” in the Bel Paese, this time to observe the military situation in it, like he hadn’t done enough during Operatsiya Golovolomka into basically kidnapping over 3000 thousands former Fascist scientists, engineers and technicians from all over the defunct Reich (4).

Italy indirectly had something akin to this, but it was much to circumstances which they couldn’t control : in addition to the Askaris of former Italian East Africa (now all of it part of the returned Empire of Ethiopia) and North Africa, many German units had been “stranded” in the “Boot” of Europe and among them there were the very famous Desert Fox Erwin Rommel and the infamous commando Otto Skorzeny (5), who conveniently and weirdly had managed to snuck out their families from the Occupation Zone.

From his understanding, the new Italian government, while despising Germans for bringing them into an atrocious total war, knew they could be valuable assets to prepare Italy for the future, just like Ettore Muti and Junio Valerio Borghese, presumably to turn Italy into a Swiss-style fortress.


  1. Almirante was very anti-American in the beginning in our world even though the Americans would rather have him than any left leaning canditate
  2. The our world border with Austria
  3. As the Istrian-Dalmatian forced relocations and exodus occurred, this could as well have happened, a tragedy with reversed roles.
  4. Basically all operations to get the brilliant minds of the Third Reich conducted in our world by the Anglo-Americans but done by the USSR.
  5. He probably became infamous for other reasons since Hungary,Italy and the others jumped ship after Hitler’s death.

GERMAN DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC, NOVEMBER 1948


Kolya had finally left Italy but wasn’t sent back home unlike he had hoped; instead, Serov had him relocated to Germany and occasionally had him also head over to the People’s Republic of the Low Countries, though his primary goal was to monitor the progress and development of the Nationaler Heimatschutzdienst, which was a very time-consuming “job” due to the fact the NHS had to be loyal to Moscow first and foremost, very few could qualify since most expert “spies” had been fierce Hitlerites.

He light up a cigarette, when one of his colleagues passed him a French newspaper; Kolya didn’t even wait for him to open his mouth and directly translated it.


<< It says Republican candidate Eisenhower wins the election against Harry Truman. Is the Soviet bomb to blame ? >> (1)

<< May I ask you for one ? >> said Malinsky, making a gesture for a cigarette.

<< Sure. We are about to have a busy day or weeks, I can’t know since it depends on two men, our boss and premier comrade Mikoyan. >>

<< You think our work is going to become harder ? >>

<< Frankly, I haven’t the faintest clue Malinksy. I have been busy with checking, double checking and so on that I hadn’t paid attention to anything that wasn’t in Berlin. >>

Malinsky approached him and whispered to him.

<< Serov thinks you knew Eisenhower. >>

<< Our boss is mighty and wise >> replied Kolya with a smile that was sardonic and sarcastic at the same time << but I only took pictures of him with Zhukov and vice versa. >>

<< What we can expect from him ? >>

<< Well, he will treat with professional courtesy Zhukov, but a capitalist is still a capitalist. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is doing like Italy and Spain and recruiting fleeing Hitlerites >>

<< Didn’t we catch them all ? >>

Kolya didn’t reply and continued to smoke. Whatever his response might have been, Ivan Serov would make sure he wouldn’t have a tongue to reply to another question.

<< We should return to work Malinsky. Unless you want to report to comrade Serov why our… new German proletarian friends are probably going to be easily crushed just like the French did to the Vietnamese >> (2)

<< I rather not…>>

Of course you would avoid the anti-Semite like the plague. (3)

His desk phone rang.

<< Jah ? >>

<< At ease Kolya. It’s me. >>

Malinsky recognized from Kolya’s frozen face

<< How I may be of assistance ? >>

<< You are being re-deployed elsewhere. >>

Again ?

<< Lisbon. >>


  1. “Thanks” to German scientific minds, the USSR gets the bomb AHEAD of time, consecutively Truman stays president only for one term and gets beaten by Ike who accepts the Republican nomination. I haven’t the faintest clue who could be his VP.
  2. The French, having to fight one years less, are just in decent enough shape they can save their Indochina territories…for now.
  3. Serov had supposedly a sense of humour deeply anti-Semitic.
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THE REST OF THE (GALLOP) WORLD

During the global conflict, there was a proposal for unification of Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Palestine and Transjordan which saw significant opposition and was delayed until Sami al-Hinnawi, who belonged to the SSNP, came to power in Syria, resisting many coups, with the most notorious offender being by Adib Shishakli, another Syrian military leader who was arrested and executed in his prison cell in 1949 after the latest coup orchestrated by him.
Sami al-Hinnawi did everything possible to achieve Antoun Saadeh dream of an united Fertile Crescent and so held a meeting between the Iraqi and Transjordanian Hashemites to create what would become a mouthful of an official country name : the Hashemite Social National Kingdom of Greater Syria and the first order of the day after unification was to establish an Anglo-Franco-Americanophile foreign policy on the surface, since it was argued that the Comintern had clearly supported Israel through political-diplomatic recognition and letting or helping Jewish people emigrate to what was still Mandatory Palestine, though not all of them agreed on it, but the fact of the matter is that they were surrounded by somewhat pro-Western countries by all sides such Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia, the first who had to concede territory to avoid a war with Mikoyan, the second who had almost their country carved up by the Soviet Union if it wasn’t for Anglo-American pressure and Saudi Arabia had already been friendly to the United States since its founding. Just as the Anglo-French recruited former SS and Wehrmacht men into the French Foreign Legion to patrol their dominions and the Americans procured “former” Drittes Reich personnel for their newly founded Central Intelligence Agency (notable recruitment including Friedrich Panzinger from the RSHA, Heinrich Müller from the Gestapo and Otto Ernst Remer from the Wehrmacht), so did the Syrians, Turks, Iranians and Saudis.

Nowadays it is not a mystery of the availability of Germans in the mercenary and intelligence “markets” during the Cold War, but before the fall of Communism it wasn’t known : the rape of Germany and Austria (with an estimation of at least four million victims), pressing tens of millions of Germans into Gulag-style forced labour or mass deportations to Central Asia, the confiscation of foreign stocks,large amounts of German patents, copyrights and trademarks worth about 30 billion dollars and relocation through dismantling and relocation of surviving German industries to the Soviet Union.
Japan fared a little better than Germany, but the Tokyo Trials were largely influenced by the Soviet’s Berlin Trials and the leaking of documents to the press of the Truman administration who wanted an US friendly Japan and in order to do so it would mean sparing many war criminals and intentionally sabotaging the trials ; the latter caused a scandal and uproars from surviving POWs of the Wallies not only in the United States but in France, United Kingdom, Indonesia and the Phillipines and consecutively the prosecutors only spared the Showa Emperor and his family, but all of people on trial would get the death sentence, indirectly ensuring left or left-leaning dominance in Japanese elections for a long period of time, which is ironic to think it would have been dead on arrival if Mosobaru Suzuki had vetoed Tetsu Katayama proposed budget, but historians dismiss this considering Shigeru Yoshida and McArthur’s violent repressions of the 1946-1947 riots after the strike organizers had become confrontational, which turned Japanese public opinion against the American sponsored transitional government, and it would be be clearly in the names of the successors for the IJA as the People's National Defense (人民国防
Jinmin Kokubō) and the IJN People’s Defensive Navy
(人民防衛海軍 Jinmin Bōei Kaigun) and the police would be remade National People's Militia Agency (国民民兵庁 Kokumin Minpei-chō), much to the chagrin of the
Gaijin Shōgun, the American President and the Emperor, with many proposals to putsch the leftists governments being discussed by the Truman and later by Eisenhower administrations, especially when Japan’s in 1959 secretly purchased many MiG-21 Forsirovannyy as well hundreds of thousands and MPi-KM assault rifles from the USSR through Germany. In 1951 when the peace was definitively signed, American troops were out, with Eisenhower calling it Truman Troubles : "We spilled our blood to subdue aJapan only for MacArthur and my predecessor to turn it into a pinko monarchy".

The same could not be said of China, one of the main issues of Eisenhower was an Asia First policy in the yet-to-be declared anti-communist policy, because no amount of re-assurances from his old war buddy Zhukov would convince him that Mikoyan didn’t plan aggressively to expand and he was, unlike his predecessor, in favor of preserving the Anglo-French empires and that as many countries stayed non-communist as possible, so he it was necessary to create an equivalent to the Comintern to defend from a possible Soviet invasion of Asia and Europe, therefore after he started massive public relations, logistics and supply campaign for the Nationalists in China and after months of intense fighting, the two sides and their “sponsors” came to a diplomatic agreement and borders were drawn : Sinkiang would become a satellite of Soviet Union, while Inner Mongolia would be annexed into Mongolia proper, Mao would be left with the majority of what remained of China with the exception of the South-West controlled by the KMT and associates, while Shangai would revert to their pre-1943 status; both Chinese sides, unlike their backers, were left deeply bittersweet and dissatisfied to be at the mercy of European power (but there was little room to discussion with the two nuclear armed states), especially Mao, with the Soviet-American arrangement sowing the seeds of war thirty years later.



When peace was achieved in China, Eisenhower went into laying the groundwork of the Pact of Allied Collective Collaboration Assistance Treaty Organization, signed in Washington between the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Portugal, Spain (despite initial protestations), Iceland, the Kingdom of Serbia, the kingdom of Montenegro, the State of Albania,Greece, Bulgaria, Croatia and lastly France and Italy, the most difficult of all since the Bel Paese held his terra irredenta that France claimed as legitemely theirs, but the matter was resolved through monetary reparations ; membership for Czechoslovakia, Romania, Denmark, Hungary, Turkey and Sweden were also discussed but the timing was still considered intensely inappropriate from a diplomatic-strategic perspective and have the potential to create tensions which were still not there, but Eisenhower secretly authorized financing any political party or entity that even looked mildly opposed to communism and the Soviet Union. PACCATO would later absorb “spin-off” organizations like SEATO and the Middle East Treaty Organization.



With the exception of the assassination of Italian Communist leader Togliatti and the conclusion of the last phase Chinese Civil War and the threats launched against Bhose and Free India, Eisenhower’s first term (and the first phase of the Cold War) afterwards became a staring contest between Washington and Moscow, the latter which was also preparing itself.
The Soviet Union not only had twenty million victims in four years of conflict but the damage was enormous and the recently failed putsch in Czechoslovakia agitated Mikoyan a lot, so the political grip was tightened in many aspects, but the economic control was being let more loose after Malenkov’s proposal were accepted as politically sound despite opposition from the hardliners, but the Armenian leader was able to found a middle ground, especially when he had reportedly told them : “We have troves and troves of human treasures from our defeated foe comrades! We might as well use them!”
Everyone from German “experts” like Wehrner Von Braun and Heisenberg to the P.O.Ws was put to work, with the only difference being the mortality rate : 88% of captured German and former Axis soldiers perished while rebuilding the Soviet Motherland and the remaining were sent to Siberia or Kazakhstan.
Mikoyan also changed some of the administrative divisions of the Soviet Union : the first was re-attaching Nakhichevan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic and Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast to the Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic, then Russophone majority areas of Ukraine and Kazakhstan and the autonomous oblast of Crimea were transferred to the RSFSR; meanwhile the Baltic Soviet Republics were united into one, creating the Baltic Soviet Republic. Other relevant border changes was Mikoyan giving back Lwow and Wilno to Poland, as well as transferring Królewiec and Kłajpedy, to ameliorate relations between the Union and their puppet state , with the same thing happening with Slovenia which was compensated with Koroška (Carinthia) and the districts of Lipnica (Leibnitz), Lonč (Deutschlandsberg) and Jugovzhodnaštajerska (Südoststeiermark), and with the transfer finalized Mikoyan started to re-initiate Germany as an allied satellite buffer puppet state against the grand coalition that was forming under the US.
The start of 1949 saw the USSR engage in many court proceedings against its own soldiers since they had to stop excesses of the Red Army and had to execute dozens of thousands because they were behaving like beasts, not to mention they had to deal with Werwolf insurgency remnants until their total annihilation at end of the year.
The next year the Soviet Union created the Ministry for State Security, an intelligence service subservient to Moscow first and Berlin second, with Wilhelm Zaisser at its helm, who would later overthrow Walter Ernst Paul Ulbricht with Mikoyan’s blessing after the German Uprising of June ‘53 ; four years later, the short-lived National People’s Army was fused with the Minister of State security and became the National People's State Security Army (Nationale Volks Sicherheits Armee), solidifying his control over the country, only to die a year later and succeeded by his deputy Erich Fritz Emil Mielke.

EISENHOWER PRESIDENCY (1949-1957)

After the failures of the short Truman presidency, who despite his failures still remained the favorite son of the Democratic Party, Eisenhower decided to be the face of the Republicans, although it would take months for him to take a running mate, until when someone proposed a little known member of the U.S. House of Representatives from California , precisely 12th district, Richard Nixon, who had defeated "Jerry" Voorhis in the 1946 election.
It is still unclear how Nixon became an option and how the improbable final selection happened, especially because there was a somewhat adversarial relationship between the two, but it is speculated that Eisenhower preferred a fellow colleague of the United States Armed Forces than any politicos.
During his first term, the recent Marshall Plan was greatly expanded and the newborn Central Intelligence Agency was dispatched to covertly help the allies of the United States against communist subversion…

TO BE CONTINUED...
 
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ATP

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THE ITALIAN SITUATION AFTER 1948 PART 1


The Italian situation had many contradictions. The first government of Italy was a coalition of the National Christian Democratic Union and the National Liberal Republican Bloc which collaborated with the other political forces except for the National Movement of Almirante, which was vehemently anti-American (1) unlike De Gasperi and Pacciardi, not to mention they had still to contend with the French who were clearly in the American camp and hadn’t recognized their territories being taken from them by the Bel Paese; a similar although much more lenient treatment was given to the Popular Democratic Front for Freedom, Peace, Labour because of the 404 km border (2) they shared with the soon-to-be German Democratic Republic and didn’t want to get an intervention from the Soviet Union and were in the process to negotiate a final peace deal, which was almost forfeited because of the enormous refugee exodus caused by the yet to be demobilized militias conducting anti-German pogroms just like the anti-Slavic forced relocations from Istria and Lubiana to Cattaro. (3).

Kolya was starting to ask himself if killing Hitler in Operatsiya Skachok was that all good in the end because he considered it to have caused more harm than good, this line of thought probably helped by the fact Serov had kept him “stationed” in the Bel Paese, this time to observe the military situation in it, like he hadn’t done enough during Operatsiya Golovolomka into basically kidnapping over 3000 thousands former Fascist scientists, engineers and technicians from all over the defunct Reich (4).

Italy indirectly had something akin to this, but it was much to circumstances which they couldn’t control : in addition to the Askaris of former Italian East Africa (now all of it part of the returned Empire of Ethiopia) and North Africa, many German units had been “stranded” in the “Boot” of Europe and among them there were the very famous Desert Fox Erwin Rommel and the infamous commando Otto Skorzeny (5), who conveniently and weirdly had managed to snuck out their families from the Occupation Zone.

From his understanding, the new Italian government, while despising Germans for bringing them into an atrocious total war, knew they could be valuable assets to prepare Italy for the future, just like Ettore Muti and Junio Valerio Borghese, presumably to turn Italy into a Swiss-style fortress.


  1. Almirante was very anti-American in the beginning in our world even though the Americans would rather have him than any left leaning canditate
  2. The our world border with Austria
  3. As the Istrian-Dalmatian forced relocations and exodus occurred, this could as well have happened, a tragedy with reversed roles.
  4. Basically all operations to get the brilliant minds of the Third Reich conducted in our world by the Anglo-Americans but done by the USSR.
  5. He probably became infamous for other reasons since Hungary,Italy and the others jumped ship after Hitler’s death.

GERMAN DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC, NOVEMBER 1948


Kolya had finally left Italy but wasn’t sent back home unlike he had hoped; instead, Serov had him relocated to Germany and occasionally had him also head over to the People’s Republic of the Low Countries, though his primary goal was to monitor the progress and development of the Nationaler Heimatschutzdienst, which was a very time-consuming “job” due to the fact the NHS had to be loyal to Moscow first and foremost, very few could qualify since most expert “spies” had been fierce Hitlerites.

He light up a cigarette, when one of his colleagues passed him a French newspaper; Kolya didn’t even wait for him to open his mouth and directly translated it.


<< It says Republican candidate Eisenhower wins the election against Harry Truman. Is the Soviet bomb to blame ? >> (1)

<< May I ask you for one ? >> said Malinsky, making a gesture for a cigarette.

<< Sure. We are about to have a busy day or weeks, I can’t know since it depends on two men, our boss and premier comrade Mikoyan. >>

<< You think our work is going to become harder ? >>

<< Frankly, I haven’t the faintest clue Malinksy. I have been busy with checking, double checking and so on that I hadn’t paid attention to anything that wasn’t in Berlin. >>

Malinsky approached him and whispered to him.

<< Serov thinks you knew Eisenhower. >>

<< Our boss is mighty and wise >> replied Kolya with a smile that was sardonic and sarcastic at the same time << but I only took pictures of him with Zhukov and vice versa. >>

<< What we can expect from him ? >>

<< Well, he will treat with professional courtesy Zhukov, but a capitalist is still a capitalist. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is doing like Italy and Spain and recruiting fleeing Hitlerites >>

<< Didn’t we catch them all ? >>

Kolya didn’t reply and continued to smoke. Whatever his response might have been, Ivan Serov would make sure he wouldn’t have a tongue to reply to another question.

<< We should return to work Malinsky. Unless you want to report to comrade Serov why our… new German proletarian friends are probably going to be easily crushed just like the French did to the Vietnamese >> (2)

<< I rather not…>>

Of course you would avoid the anti-Semite like the plague. (3)

His desk phone rang.

<< Jah ? >>

<< At ease Kolya. It’s me. >>

Malinsky recognized from Kolya’s frozen face

<< How I may be of assistance ? >>

<< You are being re-deployed elsewhere. >>

Again ?

<< Lisbon. >>


  1. “Thanks” to German scientific minds, the USSR gets the bomb AHEAD of time, consecutively Truman stays president only for one term and gets beaten by Ike who accepts the Republican nomination. I haven’t the faintest clue who could be his VP.
  2. The French, having to fight one years less, are just in decent enough shape they can save their Indochina territories…for now.
  3. Serov had supposedly a sense of humour deeply anti-Semitic.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

THE REST OF THE (GALLOP) WORLD

During the global conflict, there was a proposal for unification of Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Palestine and Transjordan which saw significant opposition and was delayed until Sami al-Hinnawi, who belonged to the SSNP, came to power in Syria, resisting many coups, with the most notorious offender being by Adib Shishakli, another Syrian military leader who was arrested and executed in his prison cell in 1949 after the latest coup orchestrated by him.
Sami al-Hinnawi did everything possible to achieve Antoun Saadeh dream of an united Fertile Crescent and so held a meeting between the Iraqi and Transjordanian Hashemites to create what would become a mouthful of an official country name : the Hashemite Social National Kingdom of Greater Syria and the first order of the day after unification was to establish an Anglo-Franco-Americanophile foreign policy on the surface, since it was argued that the Comintern had clearly supported Israel through political-diplomatic recognition and letting or helping Jewish people emigrate to what was still Mandatory Palestine, though not all of them agreed on it, but the fact of the matter is that they were surrounded by somewhat pro-Western countries by all sides such Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia, the first who had to concede territory to avoid a war with Mikoyan, the second who had almost their country carved up by the Soviet Union if it wasn’t for Anglo-American pressure and Saudi Arabia had already been friendly to the United States since its founding. Just as the Anglo-French recruited former SS and Wehrmacht men into the French Foreign Legion to patrol their dominions and the Americans procured “former” Drittes Reich personnel for their newly founded Central Intelligence Agency (notable recruitment including Friedrich Panzinger from the RSHA, Heinrich Müller from the Gestapo and Otto Ernst Remer from the Wehrmacht), so did the Syrians, Turks, Iranians and Saudis.

Nowadays it is not a mystery of the availability of Germans in the mercenary and intelligence “markets” during the Cold War, but before the fall of Communism it wasn’t known : the rape of Germany and Austria (with an estimation of at least four million victims), pressing tens of millions of Germans into Gulag-style forced labour or mass deportations to Central Asia, the confiscation of foreign stocks,large amounts of German patents, copyrights and trademarks worth about 30 billion dollars and relocation through dismantling and relocation of surviving German industries to the Soviet Union.
Japan fared a little better than Germany, but the Tokyo Trials were largely influenced by the Soviet’s Berlin Trials and the leaking of documents to the press of the Truman administration who wanted an US friendly Japan and in order to do so it would mean sparing many war criminals and intentionally sabotaging the trials ; the latter caused a scandal and uproars from surviving POWs of the Wallies not only in the United States but in France, United Kingdom, Indonesia and the Phillipines and consecutively the prosecutors only spared the Showa Emperor and his family, but all of people on trial would get the death sentence, indirectly ensuring left or left-leaning dominance in Japanese elections for a long period of time, which is ironic to think it would have been dead on arrival if Mosobaru Suzuki had vetoed Tetsu Katayama proposed budget, but historians dismiss this considering Shigeru Yoshida and McArthur’s violent repressions of the 1946-1947 riots after the strike organizers had become confrontational, which turned Japanese public opinion against the American sponsored transitional government, and it would be be clearly in the names of the successors for the IJA as the People's National Defense (人民国防
Jinmin Kokubō) and the IJN People’s Defensive Navy
(人民防衛海軍 Jinmin Bōei Kaigun) and the police would be remade National People's Militia Agency (国民民兵庁 Kokumin Minpei-chō), much to the chagrin of the
Gaijin Shōgun, the American President and the Emperor, with many proposals to putsch the leftists governments being discussed by the Truman and later by Eisenhower administrations, especially when Japan’s in 1959 secretly purchased many MiG-21 Forsirovannyy as well hundreds of thousands and MPi-KM assault rifles from the USSR through Germany. In 1951 when the peace was definitively signed, American troops were out, with Eisenhower calling it Truman Troubles : "We spilled our blood to subdue aJapan only for MacArthur and my predecessor to turn it into a pinko monarchy".

The same could not be said of China, one of the main issues of Eisenhower was an Asia First policy in the yet-to-be declared anti-communist policy, because no amount of re-assurances from his old war buddy Zhukov would convince him that Mikoyan didn’t plan aggressively to expand and he was, unlike his predecessor, in favor of preserving the Anglo-French empires and that as many countries stayed non-communist as possible, so he it was necessary to create an equivalent to the Comintern to defend from a possible Soviet invasion of Asia and Europe, therefore after he started massive public relations, logistics and supply campaign for the Nationalists in China and after months of intense fighting, the two sides and their “sponsors” came to a diplomatic agreement and borders were drawn : Sinkiang would become a satellite of Soviet Union, while Inner Mongolia would be annexed into Mongolia proper, Mao would be left with the majority of what remained of China with the exception of the South-West controlled by the KMT and associates, while Shangai would revert to their pre-1943 status; both Chinese sides, unlike their backers, were left deeply bittersweet and dissatisfied to be at the mercy of European power (but there was little room to discussion with the two nuclear armed states), especially Mao, with the Soviet-American arrangement sowing the seeds of war thirty years later.



When peace was achieved in China, Eisenhower went into laying the groundwork of the Pact of Allied Collective Collaboration Assistance Treaty Organization, signed in Washington between the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Portugal, Spain (despite initial protestations), Iceland, the Kingdom of Serbia, the kingdom of Montenegro, the State of Albania,Greece, Bulgaria, Croatia and lastly France and Italy, the most difficult of all since the Bel Paese held his terra irredenta that France claimed as legitemely theirs, but the matter was resolved through monetary reparations ; membership for Czechoslovakia, Romania, Denmark, Hungary, Turkey and Sweden were also discussed but the timing was still considered intensely inappropriate from a diplomatic-strategic perspective and have the potential to create tensions which were still not there, but Eisenhower secretly authorized financing any political party or entity that even looked mildly opposed to communism and the Soviet Union. PACCATO would later absorb “spin-off” organizations like SEATO and the Middle East Treaty Organization.



With the exception of the assassination of Italian Communist leader Togliatti and the conclusion of the last phase Chinese Civil War and the threats launched against Bhose and Free India, Eisenhower’s first term (and the first phase of the Cold War) afterwards became a staring contest between Washington and Moscow, the latter which was also preparing itself.
The Soviet Union not only had twenty million victims in four years of conflict but the damage was enormous and the recently failed putsch in Czechoslovakia agitated Mikoyan a lot, so the political grip was tightened in many aspects, but the economic control was being let more loose after Malenkov’s proposal were accepted as politically sound despite opposition from the hardliners, but the Armenian leader was able to found a middle ground, especially when he had reportedly told them : “We have troves and troves of human treasures from our defeated foe comrades! We might as well use them!”
Everyone from German “experts” like Wehrner Von Braun and Heisenberg to the P.O.Ws was put to work, with the only difference being the mortality rate : 88% of captured German and former Axis soldiers perished while rebuilding the Soviet Motherland and the remaining were sent to Siberia or Kazakhstan.
Mikoyan also changed some of the administrative divisions of the Soviet Union : the first was re-attaching Nakhichevan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic and Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast to the Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic, then Russophone majority areas of Ukraine and Kazakhstan and the autonomous oblast of Crimea were transferred to the RSFSR; meanwhile the Baltic Soviet Republics were united into one, creating the Baltic Soviet Republic. Other relevant border changes was Mikoyan giving back Lwow and Wilno to Poland, as well as transferring Królewiec and Kłajpedy, to ameliorate relations between the Union and their puppet state , with the same thing happening with Slovenia which was compensated with Koroška (Carinthia) and the districts of Lipnica (Leibnitz), Lonč (Deutschlandsberg) and Jugovzhodnaštajerska (Südoststeiermark), and with the transfer finalized Mikoyan started to re-initiate Germany as an allied satellite buffer puppet state against the grand coalition that was forming under the US.
The start of 1949 saw the USSR engage in many court proceedings against its own soldiers since they had to stop excesses of the Red Army and had to execute dozens of thousands because they were behaving like beasts, not to mention they had to deal with Werwolf insurgency remnants until their total annihilation at end of the year.
The next year the Soviet Union created the Ministry for State Security, an intelligence service subservient to Moscow first and Berlin second, with Wilhelm Zaisser at its helm, who would later overthrow Walter Ernst Paul Ulbricht with Mikoyan’s blessing after the German Uprising of June ‘53 ; four years later, the short-lived National People’s Army was fused with the Minister of State security and became the National People's State Security Army (Nationale Volks Sicherheits Armee), solidifying his control over the country, only to die a year later and succeeded by his deputy Erich Fritz Emil Mielke ; an analogous series of events happened in Poland as well, where the Służba Bezpieczeństwa took control of the Polish People’s Republic, who was headed by the commander of the infamous Zgoda camp in Świętochłowice, Salomon Morel.

EISENHOWER PRESIDENCY (1949-1957)

After the failures of the short Truman presidency, who despite his failures still remained the favorite son of the Democratic Party, Eisenhower decided to be the face of the Republicans, although it would take months for him to take a running mate, until when someone proposed a little known member of the U.S. House of Representatives from California , precisely 12th district, Richard Nixon, who had defeated "Jerry" Voorhis in the 1946 election.
It is still unclear how Nixon became an option and how the improbable final selection happened, especially because there was a somewhat adversarial relationship between the two, but it is speculated that Eisenhower preferred a fellow colleague of the United States Armed Forces than any politicos.
During his first term, the recent Marshall Plan was greatly expanded and the newborn Central Intelligence Agency was dispatched to covertly help the allies of the United States against communist subversion…

TO BE CONTINUED...

So,we have:
1.soviet Germany
2.Two China - but,who get Manchuria?
3.soviet Poland with Wilno and Lwów - but who get Królewiec and Kłajpeda? ruled by jews like in OTL,but how many they genocided? in OTL no more then 200.000,and churches remained mostly free,and polish farmers mostly keep their lands.
What happened to farmers and church here?
4.If they get all germans,then they get dude who planned to build space plane,too.Would they build that?
5.French crushed commies.
6.What about soviet economy? did they try some kind of NEP?

All in all,we have better world here.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
So,we have:
1.soviet Germany
2.Two China - but,who get Manchuria?
3.soviet Poland with Wilno and Lwów - but who get Królewiec and Kłajpeda? ruled by jews like in OTL,but how many they genocided? in OTL no more then 200.000,and churches remained mostly free,and polish farmers mostly keep their lands.
What happened to farmers and church here?
4.If they get all germans,then they get dude who planned to build space plane,too.Would they build that?
5.French crushed commies.
6.What about soviet economy? did they try some kind of NEP?

All in all,we have better world here.

1. AND an Independent Lusatia/Sorbia
2. Soviets. See here as well https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/attachments/northeast_china-svg-png.682170/
3. Also Poland.
4. Of course he would. You can't exactlt refuse a Soviet offer (at gunpoint).
5. Yes but it is because the Anglo-Japanese forces managed to help them do so.
6. The Soviet economy and infrastructure is going to be rebuilt with German and Axis P.O.W.s . Stalin is dead 5 years earlier so it will be definitively better, not to mention there is no Beria, Khruschev or Malenkov, the latter suggestions are followed but it is still the USSR with a lighter grip on power. Basically China before Xi Jinping.
 
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ATP

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1. AND an Independent Lusatia/Sorbia
2. Soviets. See here as well https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/attachments/northeast_china-svg-png.682170/
3. Also Poland.
4. Of course he would. You can't exactlt refuse a Soviet offer (at gunpoint).
5. Yes but it is because the Anglo-Japanese forces managed to help them do so.
6. The Soviet economy and infrastructure is going to be rebuilt with German and Axis P.O.W.s . Stalin is dead 5 years earlier so it will be definitively better, not to mention there is no Beria, Khruschev or Malenkov, the latter suggestions are followed but it is still the USSR with a lighter grip on power. Basically China before Xi Jinping.

space plane- Eugene Sangers worked on plans from 1936,It would be named Thor hammer.In 1938 started built model 1:20.
It supposed to be 28m long.
It would be jet-propelled ,one big engine and 2 small.
From 3km long rail.With additional engines on rail.
It would give it 20M after 8 minutes of working,on 145 km above Earth.And,thanks to bounding on atmosphere,would have 23.500 range.
It would land on normal airfield.
Problem was - he do not manage to create engine for that,nor materials capable of surviving all that bounding and that landing.
So,soviets would need to solve those problems.Dunno,it they could with 1950 technology.
 

ATP

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1. AND an Independent Lusatia/Sorbia
2. Soviets. See here as well https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/attachments/northeast_china-svg-png.682170/
3. Also Poland.
4. Of course he would. You can't exactlt refuse a Soviet offer (at gunpoint).
5. Yes but it is because the Anglo-Japanese forces managed to help them do so.
6. The Soviet economy and infrastructure is going to be rebuilt with German and Axis P.O.W.s . Stalin is dead 5 years earlier so it will be definitively better, not to mention there is no Beria, Khruschev or Malenkov, the latter suggestions are followed but it is still the USSR with a lighter grip on power. Basically China before Xi Jinping.

About Poland in OTL - from 1945 till 1956 we were soviet colony ruled from soviet embassy,not even by ambassador,but soviet NKWD officer.
And ruling "elites" was made from soviets and jews - becouse poles who supported communism was too dump for anything more then brealing bones.Well,Gomółka was one of few exceptions.

But here,with Wilno,Lwów ,Królewiec and Kłajpeda in polish hands soviets do not need that,becouse,as long as they do not attack Church and smaller property everybody would support them.
So,no need for Slomo Morel or other jews to rule.
 

Circle of Willis

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THE ITALIAN SITUATION AFTER 1948 PART 1


The Italian situation had many contradictions. The first government of Italy was a coalition of the National Christian Democratic Union and the National Liberal Republican Bloc which collaborated with the other political forces except for the National Movement of Almirante, which was vehemently anti-American (1) unlike De Gasperi and Pacciardi, not to mention they had still to contend with the French who were clearly in the American camp and hadn’t recognized their territories being taken from them by the Bel Paese; a similar although much more lenient treatment was given to the Popular Democratic Front for Freedom, Peace, Labour because of the 404 km border (2) they shared with the soon-to-be German Democratic Republic and didn’t want to get an intervention from the Soviet Union and were in the process to negotiate a final peace deal, which was almost forfeited because of the enormous refugee exodus caused by the yet to be demobilized militias conducting anti-German pogroms just like the anti-Slavic forced relocations from Istria and Lubiana to Cattaro. (3).

Kolya was starting to ask himself if killing Hitler in Operatsiya Skachok was that all good in the end because he considered it to have caused more harm than good, this line of thought probably helped by the fact Serov had kept him “stationed” in the Bel Paese, this time to observe the military situation in it, like he hadn’t done enough during Operatsiya Golovolomka into basically kidnapping over 3000 thousands former Fascist scientists, engineers and technicians from all over the defunct Reich (4).

Italy indirectly had something akin to this, but it was much to circumstances which they couldn’t control : in addition to the Askaris of former Italian East Africa (now all of it part of the returned Empire of Ethiopia) and North Africa, many German units had been “stranded” in the “Boot” of Europe and among them there were the very famous Desert Fox Erwin Rommel and the infamous commando Otto Skorzeny (5), who conveniently and weirdly had managed to snuck out their families from the Occupation Zone.

From his understanding, the new Italian government, while despising Germans for bringing them into an atrocious total war, knew they could be valuable assets to prepare Italy for the future, just like Ettore Muti and Junio Valerio Borghese, presumably to turn Italy into a Swiss-style fortress.


  1. Almirante was very anti-American in the beginning in our world even though the Americans would rather have him than any left leaning canditate
  2. The our world border with Austria
  3. As the Istrian-Dalmatian forced relocations and exodus occurred, this could as well have happened, a tragedy with reversed roles.
  4. Basically all operations to get the brilliant minds of the Third Reich conducted in our world by the Anglo-Americans but done by the USSR.
  5. He probably became infamous for other reasons since Hungary,Italy and the others jumped ship after Hitler’s death.

GERMAN DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC, NOVEMBER 1948


Kolya had finally left Italy but wasn’t sent back home unlike he had hoped; instead, Serov had him relocated to Germany and occasionally had him also head over to the People’s Republic of the Low Countries, though his primary goal was to monitor the progress and development of the Nationaler Heimatschutzdienst, which was a very time-consuming “job” due to the fact the NHS had to be loyal to Moscow first and foremost, very few could qualify since most expert “spies” had been fierce Hitlerites.

He light up a cigarette, when one of his colleagues passed him a French newspaper; Kolya didn’t even wait for him to open his mouth and directly translated it.


<< It says Republican candidate Eisenhower wins the election against Harry Truman. Is the Soviet bomb to blame ? >> (1)

<< May I ask you for one ? >> said Malinsky, making a gesture for a cigarette.

<< Sure. We are about to have a busy day or weeks, I can’t know since it depends on two men, our boss and premier comrade Mikoyan. >>

<< You think our work is going to become harder ? >>

<< Frankly, I haven’t the faintest clue Malinksy. I have been busy with checking, double checking and so on that I hadn’t paid attention to anything that wasn’t in Berlin. >>

Malinsky approached him and whispered to him.

<< Serov thinks you knew Eisenhower. >>

<< Our boss is mighty and wise >> replied Kolya with a smile that was sardonic and sarcastic at the same time << but I only took pictures of him with Zhukov and vice versa. >>

<< What we can expect from him ? >>

<< Well, he will treat with professional courtesy Zhukov, but a capitalist is still a capitalist. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is doing like Italy and Spain and recruiting fleeing Hitlerites >>

<< Didn’t we catch them all ? >>

Kolya didn’t reply and continued to smoke. Whatever his response might have been, Ivan Serov would make sure he wouldn’t have a tongue to reply to another question.

<< We should return to work Malinsky. Unless you want to report to comrade Serov why our… new German proletarian friends are probably going to be easily crushed just like the French did to the Vietnamese >> (2)

<< I rather not…>>

Of course you would avoid the anti-Semite like the plague. (3)

His desk phone rang.

<< Jah ? >>

<< At ease Kolya. It’s me. >>

Malinsky recognized from Kolya’s frozen face

<< How I may be of assistance ? >>

<< You are being re-deployed elsewhere. >>

Again ?

<< Lisbon. >>


  1. “Thanks” to German scientific minds, the USSR gets the bomb AHEAD of time, consecutively Truman stays president only for one term and gets beaten by Ike who accepts the Republican nomination. I haven’t the faintest clue who could be his VP.
  2. The French, having to fight one years less, are just in decent enough shape they can save their Indochina territories…for now.
  3. Serov had supposedly a sense of humour deeply anti-Semitic.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

THE REST OF THE (GALLOP) WORLD

During the global conflict, there was a proposal for unification of Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Palestine and Transjordan which saw significant opposition and was delayed until Sami al-Hinnawi, who belonged to the SSNP, came to power in Syria, resisting many coups, with the most notorious offender being by Adib Shishakli, another Syrian military leader who was arrested and executed in his prison cell in 1949 after the latest coup orchestrated by him.
Sami al-Hinnawi did everything possible to achieve Antoun Saadeh dream of an united Fertile Crescent and so held a meeting between the Iraqi and Transjordanian Hashemites to create what would become a mouthful of an official country name : the Hashemite Social National Kingdom of Greater Syria and the first order of the day after unification was to establish an Anglo-Franco-Americanophile foreign policy on the surface, since it was argued that the Comintern had clearly supported Israel through political-diplomatic recognition and letting or helping Jewish people emigrate to what was still Mandatory Palestine, though not all of them agreed on it, but the fact of the matter is that they were surrounded by somewhat pro-Western countries by all sides such Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia, the first who had to concede territory to avoid a war with Mikoyan, the second who had almost their country carved up by the Soviet Union if it wasn’t for Anglo-American pressure and Saudi Arabia had already been friendly to the United States since its founding. Just as the Anglo-French recruited former SS and Wehrmacht men into the French Foreign Legion to patrol their dominions and the Americans procured “former” Drittes Reich personnel for their newly founded Central Intelligence Agency (notable recruitment including Friedrich Panzinger from the RSHA, Heinrich Müller from the Gestapo and Otto Ernst Remer from the Wehrmacht), so did the Syrians, Turks, Iranians and Saudis.

Nowadays it is not a mystery of the availability of Germans in the mercenary and intelligence “markets” during the Cold War, but before the fall of Communism it wasn’t known : the rape of Germany and Austria (with an estimation of at least four million victims), pressing tens of millions of Germans into Gulag-style forced labour or mass deportations to Central Asia, the confiscation of foreign stocks,large amounts of German patents, copyrights and trademarks worth about 30 billion dollars and relocation through dismantling and relocation of surviving German industries to the Soviet Union.
Japan fared a little better than Germany, but the Tokyo Trials were largely influenced by the Soviet’s Berlin Trials and the leaking of documents to the press of the Truman administration who wanted an US friendly Japan and in order to do so it would mean sparing many war criminals and intentionally sabotaging the trials ; the latter caused a scandal and uproars from surviving POWs of the Wallies not only in the United States but in France, United Kingdom, Indonesia and the Phillipines and consecutively the prosecutors only spared the Showa Emperor and his family, but all of people on trial would get the death sentence, indirectly ensuring left or left-leaning dominance in Japanese elections for a long period of time, which is ironic to think it would have been dead on arrival if Mosobaru Suzuki had vetoed Tetsu Katayama proposed budget, but historians dismiss this considering Shigeru Yoshida and McArthur’s violent repressions of the 1946-1947 riots after the strike organizers had become confrontational, which turned Japanese public opinion against the American sponsored transitional government, and it would be be clearly in the names of the successors for the IJA as the People's National Defense (人民国防
Jinmin Kokubō) and the IJN People’s Defensive Navy
(人民防衛海軍 Jinmin Bōei Kaigun) and the police would be remade National People's Militia Agency (国民民兵庁 Kokumin Minpei-chō), much to the chagrin of the
Gaijin Shōgun, the American President and the Emperor, with many proposals to putsch the leftists governments being discussed by the Truman and later by Eisenhower administrations, especially when Japan’s in 1959 secretly purchased many MiG-21 Forsirovannyy as well hundreds of thousands and MPi-KM assault rifles from the USSR through Germany. In 1951 when the peace was definitively signed, American troops were out, with Eisenhower calling it Truman Troubles : "We spilled our blood to subdue aJapan only for MacArthur and my predecessor to turn it into a pinko monarchy".

The same could not be said of China, one of the main issues of Eisenhower was an Asia First policy in the yet-to-be declared anti-communist policy, because no amount of re-assurances from his old war buddy Zhukov would convince him that Mikoyan didn’t plan aggressively to expand and he was, unlike his predecessor, in favor of preserving the Anglo-French empires and that as many countries stayed non-communist as possible, so he it was necessary to create an equivalent to the Comintern to defend from a possible Soviet invasion of Asia and Europe, therefore after he started massive public relations, logistics and supply campaign for the Nationalists in China and after months of intense fighting, the two sides and their “sponsors” came to a diplomatic agreement and borders were drawn : Sinkiang would become a satellite of Soviet Union, while Inner Mongolia would be annexed into Mongolia proper, Mao would be left with the majority of what remained of China with the exception of the South-West controlled by the KMT and associates, while Shangai would revert to their pre-1943 status; both Chinese sides, unlike their backers, were left deeply bittersweet and dissatisfied to be at the mercy of European power (but there was little room to discussion with the two nuclear armed states), especially Mao, with the Soviet-American arrangement sowing the seeds of war thirty years later.



When peace was achieved in China, Eisenhower went into laying the groundwork of the Pact of Allied Collective Collaboration Assistance Treaty Organization, signed in Washington between the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Portugal, Spain (despite initial protestations), Iceland, the Kingdom of Serbia, the kingdom of Montenegro, the State of Albania,Greece, Bulgaria, Croatia and lastly France and Italy, the most difficult of all since the Bel Paese held his terra irredenta that France claimed as legitemely theirs, but the matter was resolved through monetary reparations ; membership for Czechoslovakia, Romania, Denmark, Hungary, Turkey and Sweden were also discussed but the timing was still considered intensely inappropriate from a diplomatic-strategic perspective and have the potential to create tensions which were still not there, but Eisenhower secretly authorized financing any political party or entity that even looked mildly opposed to communism and the Soviet Union. PACCATO would later absorb “spin-off” organizations like SEATO and the Middle East Treaty Organization.



With the exception of the assassination of Italian Communist leader Togliatti and the conclusion of the last phase Chinese Civil War and the threats launched against Bhose and Free India, Eisenhower’s first term (and the first phase of the Cold War) afterwards became a staring contest between Washington and Moscow, the latter which was also preparing itself.
The Soviet Union not only had twenty million victims in four years of conflict but the damage was enormous and the recently failed putsch in Czechoslovakia agitated Mikoyan a lot, so the political grip was tightened in many aspects, but the economic control was being let more loose after Malenkov’s proposal were accepted as politically sound despite opposition from the hardliners, but the Armenian leader was able to found a middle ground, especially when he had reportedly told them : “We have troves and troves of human treasures from our defeated foe comrades! We might as well use them!”
Everyone from German “experts” like Wehrner Von Braun and Heisenberg to the P.O.Ws was put to work, with the only difference being the mortality rate : 88% of captured German and former Axis soldiers perished while rebuilding the Soviet Motherland and the remaining were sent to Siberia or Kazakhstan.
Mikoyan also changed some of the administrative divisions of the Soviet Union : the first was re-attaching Nakhichevan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic and Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast to the Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic, then Russophone majority areas of Ukraine and Kazakhstan and the autonomous oblast of Crimea were transferred to the RSFSR; meanwhile the Baltic Soviet Republics were united into one, creating the Baltic Soviet Republic. Other relevant border changes was Mikoyan giving back Lwow and Wilno to Poland, as well as transferring Królewiec and Kłajpedy, to ameliorate relations between the Union and their puppet state , with the same thing happening with Slovenia which was compensated with Koroška (Carinthia) and the districts of Lipnica (Leibnitz), Lonč (Deutschlandsberg) and Jugovzhodnaštajerska (Südoststeiermark), and with the transfer finalized Mikoyan started to re-initiate Germany as an allied satellite buffer puppet state against the grand coalition that was forming under the US.
The start of 1949 saw the USSR engage in many court proceedings against its own soldiers since they had to stop excesses of the Red Army and had to execute dozens of thousands because they were behaving like beasts, not to mention they had to deal with Werwolf insurgency remnants until their total annihilation at end of the year.
The next year the Soviet Union created the Ministry for State Security, an intelligence service subservient to Moscow first and Berlin second, with Wilhelm Zaisser at its helm, who would later overthrow Walter Ernst Paul Ulbricht with Mikoyan’s blessing after the German Uprising of June ‘53 ; four years later, the short-lived National People’s Army was fused with the Minister of State security and became the National People's State Security Army (Nationale Volks Sicherheits Armee), solidifying his control over the country, only to die a year later and succeeded by his deputy Erich Fritz Emil Mielke ; an analogous series of events happened in Poland as well, where the Służba Bezpieczeństwa took control of the Polish People’s Republic, who was headed by the commander of the infamous Zgoda camp in Świętochłowice, Salomon Morel.

EISENHOWER PRESIDENCY (1949-1957)

After the failures of the short Truman presidency, who despite his failures still remained the favorite son of the Democratic Party, Eisenhower decided to be the face of the Republicans, although it would take months for him to take a running mate, until when someone proposed a little known member of the U.S. House of Representatives from California , precisely 12th district, Richard Nixon, who had defeated "Jerry" Voorhis in the 1946 election.
It is still unclear how Nixon became an option and how the improbable final selection happened, especially because there was a somewhat adversarial relationship between the two, but it is speculated that Eisenhower preferred a fellow colleague of the United States Armed Forces than any politicos.
During his first term, the recent Marshall Plan was greatly expanded and the newborn Central Intelligence Agency was dispatched to covertly help the allies of the United States against communist subversion…

TO BE CONTINUED...
Interesting stuff, looking forward to more. The only contention I can think of so far is that Eisenhower wouldn't have picked Nixon as his running mate in '48 because, as you pointed out in the text itself, the latter is still just a one-term congressman with virtually no record to speak of that year and would bring no meaningful benefit to the ticket. The main reason Eisenhower chose him IRL in 1952 was that, besides the geographic balancing factor (Nixon's from California, Eisenhower had made NY his home by then), Nixon had won a couple more elections and built up a reputation as something of an anti-Communist crusader in the intervening years, making him useful to Ike (who was firmly aligned with the East Coast liberal Republicans) as a bridge to the GOP's conservatives.

I think Senate president pro tem Arthur Vandenberg (a moderate internationalist from Michigan, an EV-rich swing state, who nevertheless had a good relationship to the Midwestern-based conservative faction of the GOP and a lot of foreign policy experience) or, if Eisenhower absolutely wants a 'simple' military man for his VP, young Minnesota governor Harold Stassen (another, more liberal Midwesterner who had served on Bull Halsey's staff in WW2's Pacific theater) would be more realistic options with which to balance Ike's ticket.
 
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About Poland in OTL - from 1945 till 1956 we were soviet colony ruled from soviet embassy,not even by ambassador,but soviet NKWD officer.
And ruling "elites" was made from soviets and jews - becouse poles who supported communism was too dump for anything more then brealing bones.Well,Gomółka was one of few exceptions.

But here,with Wilno,Lwów ,Królewiec and Kłajpeda in polish hands soviets do not need that,becouse,as long as they do not attack Church and smaller property everybody would support them.
So,no need for Slomo Morel or other jews to rule.

@ATP Solomon Morel will return later. I edited him out for now but I think I would like to have him again to pay for his crimes in my so called timeline.

Interesting stuff, looking forward to more. The only contention I can think of so far is that Eisenhower wouldn't have picked Nixon as his running mate in '48 because, as you pointed out in the text itself, the latter is still just a one-term congressman with virtually no record to speak of that year and would bring no meaningful benefit to the ticket. The main reason Eisenhower chose him IRL in 1952 was that, besides the geographic balancing factor (Nixon's from California, Eisenhower had made NY his home by then), Nixon had won a couple more elections and built up a reputation as something of an anti-Communist crusader in the intervening years, making him useful to Ike (who was firmly aligned with the East Coast liberal Republicans) as a bridge to the GOP's conservatives.

I think Senate president pro tem Arthur Vandenberg (a moderate internationalist from Michigan, an EV-rich swing state, who nevertheless had a good relationship to the Midwestern-based conservative faction of the GOP and a lot of foreign policy experience) or, if Eisenhower absolutely wants a 'simple' military man for his VP, young Minnesota governor Harold Stassen (another, more liberal Midwesterner who had served on Bull Halsey's staff in WW2's Pacific theater) would be more realistic options with which to balance Ike's ticket.

I am looking at various sources, from one I looked Eisenhower and Nixon they knew each other already in 1948.
Wasn't Stassen irrelevant by 1948?
Vanderberg... I do not know how to write a character that is going to die before Eisenhower's term ends and the election.
I was wondering if Eike could do something to about the 2 terms limits if he become US president.
But then in my outline I was planning for a 2 terms Nixon , but now I think Nixon wouldn't even be in the cards as a VP in any shape or form.

And I was planning for a George Wallace 2 terms ( 1964-1972 ).

No, this is not a USA breaks apart and USSR stays together.

More like a debuff.

And the CIA will have much less luck than our time and much more of a bad reputation.

Another thing I was planning was a much earlier Sputnik Crisis and move the cold war from proxy conflicts to space races.
Reason why it happens earlier?

Well as you noticed the Soviets get up until Belgium and Norway, meaning their equivalent to Paperclip is THE Paperclip of our timeline.

But I think I need help :

@BlackDragon98 @Bassoe If I am not mistaken you guys still have accounts in alternatehistory.com ?

Also Circle your thoughts on a heavily leftist but non-communist post-war Japan?

Just to bear in mind : leftists of yore were different from the ones of today.

The general idea of the timeline would be souveranisme.

Another big thing I wanted to do is a Second Greco-Turkish War over Cyprus and the Soviet Union fall a decade earlier, but they are in a better position so I have no idea how to make that happen... I just know that in the 1970s their economy was already downhill if it wasn't for the Oil Crisis.

What would be Stassen foreign and internal policy? How would he react to Emmet Till and Civil Rights?

Speaking of these last... I was also planning to have Malcom X and Martin Luther King survive...any thoughts on that?
 

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@ATP Solomon Morel will return later. I edited him out for now but I think I would like to have him again to pay for his crimes in my so called timeline.



I am looking at various sources, from one I looked Eisenhower and Nixon they knew each other already in 1948.
Wasn't Stassen irrelevant by 1948?
Vanderberg... I do not know how to write a character that is going to die before Eisenhower's term ends and the election.
I was wondering if Eike could do something to about the 2 terms limits if he become US president.
But then in my outline I was planning for a 2 terms Nixon , but now I think Nixon wouldn't even be in the cards as a VP in any shape or form.

And I was planning for a George Wallace 2 terms ( 1964-1972 ).

No, this is not a USA breaks apart and USSR stays together.

More like a debuff.

And the CIA will have much less luck than our time and much more of a bad reputation.

Another thing I was planning was a much earlier Sputnik Crisis and move the cold war from proxy conflicts to space races.
Reason why it happens earlier?

Well as you noticed the Soviets get up until Belgium and Norway, meaning their equivalent to Paperclip is THE Paperclip of our timeline.

But I think I need help :

@BlackDragon98 @Bassoe If I am not mistaken you guys still have accounts in alternatehistory.com ?

Also Circle your thoughts on a heavily leftist but non-communist post-war Japan?

Just to bear in mind : leftists of yore were different from the ones of today.

The general idea of the timeline would be souveranisme.

Another big thing I wanted to do is a Second Greco-Turkish War over Cyprus and the Soviet Union fall a decade earlier, but they are in a better position so I have no idea how to make that happen... I just know that in the 1970s their economy was already downhill if it wasn't for the Oil Crisis.

What would be Stassen foreign and internal policy? How would he react to Emmet Till and Civil Rights?

Speaking of these last... I was also planning to have Malcom X and Martin Luther King survive...any thoughts on that?
Even so, Nixon would offer too little (nothing really) to Eisenhower to be given the VP slot in 1948. As an inexperienced congressman on his first term, he'd basically only be one small step over some literal rando on the street, and since Eisenhower himself isn't a party establishment man he doesn't need an out-of-left-field running mate to burnish his 'outsider' credentials. Even the next most inexperienced Republican running mate I can think of, William Miller (Goldwater's running mate in 1964 IOTL), had at least served more than one term in the House and minted a few accomplishments to his name.

Stassen is interesting in that 1948 was actually his best year and the election in which he had the biggest chance of taking the nomination, it was only after this one that he started to become a joke.

If you still want a VP Nixon under Eisenhower, you could just have Eisenhower pick Vandenberg first and then him in 1952 after Vandenberg croaks. At that point Nixon should be a good deal more experienced and have more of an actual record to justify choosing him for the vice-presidency.

A Wallace presidency through the '60s? Well I can tell that's going to be a very interesting decade ;) You have certainly chosen well if you want to debuff the US, haha.

A leftist but non-Communist Japan would be a pretty interesting prospect indeed, and something I had begun to explore in my own Cold War TL. The thing is that the Japanese left was pretty badly divided between the 'left socialists' (actual revolutionary commies) and 'right socialists' (social democrats, including post-war PM Tetsu Katayama who you have already included) throughout the early Cold War. Since you did specify that you wanted Japan to stay non-Communist, having the right-socialists win early and decisively (so as to dominate the Japanese left and keep it a unified force) is probably your best bet. Besides conventional social-democratic platform planks like constructing a robust social welfare system, IIRC the priorities of the right-socialists (as represented by the likes of Jotaro Kawakami and Saburo Eda) would've included distancing Japan from the US (which you already seem to have planned from that chapter), maintaining pacifism (it's the Japanese right which has consistently wanted to revise Article 9 of the post-war constitution) and destroying the yakuza (no surprise there, infamously the CIA fashioned them into a bludgeon against Japanese socialists & labor unions).

Stassen was a liberal Republican from Minnesota, so I'd imagine he would take a pretty progressive position on civil rights. No doubt Emmett Till's murder would have outraged him. He did support banning the Communist Party in a debate with NY Governor and OTL 1948 nominee Thomas Dewey, though, so if you make him president at some point I don't think he'd have a problem with stuff like the McCarran Act. Economically, as part of the Republicans' liberal wing he wouldn't have wanted to dismantle the New Deal in its entirety, but he would take opportunities to curtail it and press the brakes on labor activism where he could, so he surely would've supported the likes of the Taft-Hartley Act. On foreign policy, he was a big fan of the UN and close collaborator with Ralph Bunche, so most likely he'd be a staunch internationalist (would most likely seek help and approval from other allies and the UN before launching interventions, for example) and supporter of decolonization.

By the time of his death, Malcolm X had become a little less radical and more willing to work with civil rights reformists after his pilgrimage to Mecca, which also got him to turn against the Nation of Islam on the grounds that they were heretics (he was right, BTW, they were basically to Islam what the Taipings were to Christianity) - of course that resulted in the Black Muslims assassinating him, as we well know. Meanwhile by the time of his death, MLK was taking on serious socialistic overtones in his speeches and marches, and the last time anyone tried to poll his popularity he had a 63% disapproval rating. So while I wouldn't necessarily go so far as to say those two men's reputations would have been reversed had they lived longer, I do think it's fairly likely Malcolm X would be remembered a bit more positively while King's reputation wouldn't have been quite so saintly and might even have sunk closer to the level of Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton (far-left mongers of racial grievances) had they been allowed to die naturally. King was also being battered by mounting revelations of infidelity and worse gathered by the FBI, which couldn't have helped him in a timeline where his martyrdom doesn't sweep all that jazz under the rug.

Hope all of this helps!
 
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Even so, Nixon would offer too little (nothing really) to Eisenhower to be given the VP slot in 1948. As an inexperienced congressman on his first term, he'd basically only be one small step over some literal rando on the street, and since Eisenhower himself isn't a party establishment man he doesn't need an out-of-left-field running mate to burnish his 'outsider' credentials. Even the next most inexperienced Republican running mate I can think of, William Miller (Goldwater's running mate in 1964 IOTL), had at least served more than one term in the House and minted a few accomplishments to his name.

Stassen is interesting in that 1948 was actually his best year and the election in which he had the biggest chance of taking the nomination, it was only after this one that he started to become a joke.

If you still want a VP Nixon under Eisenhower, you could just have Eisenhower pick Vandenberg first and then him in 1952 after Vandenberg croaks. At that point Nixon should be a good deal more experienced and have more of an actual record to justify choosing him for the vice-presidency.

A Wallace presidency through the '60s? Well I can tell that's going to be a very interesting decade ;) You have certainly chosen well if you want to debuff the US, haha.

A leftist but non-Communist Japan would be a pretty interesting prospect indeed, and something I had begun to explore in my own Cold War TL. The thing is that the Japanese left was pretty badly divided between the 'left socialists' (actual revolutionary commies) and 'right socialists' (social democrats, including post-war PM Tetsu Katayama who you have already included) throughout the early Cold War. Since you did specify that you wanted Japan to stay non-Communist, having the right-socialists win early and decisively (so as to dominate the Japanese left and keep it a unified force) is probably your best bet. Besides conventional social-democratic platform planks like constructing a robust social welfare system, IIRC the priorities of the right-socialists (as represented by the likes of Jotaro Kawakami and Saburo Eda) would've included distancing Japan from the US (which you already seem to have planned from that chapter), maintaining pacifism (it's the Japanese right which has consistently wanted to revise Article 9 of the post-war constitution) and destroying the yakuza (no surprise there, infamously the CIA fashioned them into a bludgeon against Japanese socialists & labor unions).

Stassen was a liberal Republican from Minnesota, so I'd imagine he would take a pretty progressive position on civil rights. No doubt Emmett Till's murder would have outraged him. He did support banning the Communist Party in a debate with NY Governor and OTL 1948 nominee Thomas Dewey, though, so if you make him president at some point I don't think he'd have a problem with stuff like the McCarran Act. Economically, as part of the Republicans' liberal wing he wouldn't have wanted to dismantle the New Deal in its entirety, but he would take opportunities to curtail it and press the brakes on labor activism where he could, so he surely would've supported the likes of the Taft-Hartley Act. On foreign policy, he was a big fan of the UN and close collaborator with Ralph Bunche, so most likely he'd be a staunch internationalist (would most likely seek help and approval from other allies and the UN before launching interventions, for example) and supporter of decolonization.

By the time of his death, Malcolm X had become a little less radical and more willing to work with civil rights reformists after his pilgrimage to Mecca, which also got him to turn against the Nation of Islam on the grounds that they were heretics (he was right, BTW, they were basically to Islam what the Taipings were to Christianity) - of course that resulted in the Black Muslims assassinating him, as we well know. Meanwhile by the time of his death, MLK was taking on serious socialistic overtones in his speeches and marches, and the last time anyone tried to poll his popularity he had a 63% disapproval rating. So while I wouldn't necessarily go so far as to say those two men's reputations would have been reversed had they lived longer, I do think it's fairly likely Malcolm X would be remembered a bit more positively while King's reputation wouldn't have been quite so saintly and might even have sunk closer to the level of Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton (far-left mongers of racial grievances) had they been allowed to die naturally. King was also being battered by mounting revelations of infidelity and worse gathered by the FBI, which couldn't have helped him in a timeline where his martyrdom doesn't sweep all that jazz under the rug.

Hope all of this helps!

Going in order.

  1. Stassen seems more logical than Vanderberg and Nixon then. I need someone to photoshop Stassen instead of Nixon. The only place I can think of is alternatehistory.com but I don't want to create another account and get banned as consequence.
  2. With deep thinking, I have honestly no idea how Nixon would even get close to the White House
  3. Yeah it seems the best option in 1964 after two four Republicans mandates... But who could be his 1964 running mate? In the 1964 Wikipedia entry the Dems had like.... Johnson and Wallace...That's it. I know Wallace went a bit Nazbol later in life.
  4. Thanks for the information on Japan. Basically it amounts to bad moves and bad pr. I think McArthur gunning or arresting protesters wouldn't exactly endear them to the Japanese. I think I might have gone a bit too far with them buying TTL East German AKMs.
  5. On Malcom X I do agree. On MLK I have some genuine doubt on the veracity of the FBI claims, look at what happened not even 24h ago.
Now this is a draft for the next chapter. I will also need to edit Ike presidency . Tell me your opinion.

EISENHOWER’S INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMACY


<< The reasons why the British fought was not only so that we wouldn’t be forced to speak German…but also preserve the Empire >>


De Gaulle had a similar opinion to Churchill. France had miraculously kept his Asian possessions unlike Britain, with the latter's help and was in control of the Belgian territories there (despite they had left the same governor as before), since there was no longer a Belgium to report to. The new president would help them…for a “fee” and they would have to be on their own after a while.


They had a lot of manpower available now that there were plenty of German remnants and collaborators that clearly didn’t want to return. Eisenhower, despite had fought Nazis and their puppets, told that what remained of Petainists and Vichyists had to be pardoned, since there might be more weapons than soldiers and that he did not desired a weak France. De Gaulle reluctantly agreed, just as did with the fact that the Italians were getting away with French lands, in exchange they would receive support in their possessions to keep them in the French Union.


If WWII was won with British intelligence, American steel and Russian blood, the empires of yore would be kept intact until the first biennium of the Eighties thanks to American intelligence and money and German blood and sweat.


Spain and Portugal also were “recipients” of German veterans and American money and intelligence help until the miserable failures of the failed toppling of King Farouk in Egypt in 1952 and the 1953 Iranian and 1954 Guatemalan and Paraguayan putschs made the two Iberian nations realize that the Americans were incompetent in regard with espionage and counter-intelligence wi the CIA only actual success two years after the Sputnik Crisis.


THE FRENCH COUP


In 1956 the American secret service collaborated with their local fifth column, a rag-tag of military personnel of former Free French officers of all the political spectrum, whose first target after the government was none other than the man that had been their leader in war time : De Gaulle. It is unclear how the Marshall of Free France met his untimely demise, but if reports from the Direction générale de la sécurité intérieure archives are not taken as pure speculation, he was tied, blindfolded and shot in the head, subsequently buried in the first pit found and many met an identical fate such as Minister of the Overseas François Mitterrand.

The “National Security Government” would give the same treatment to the opposite ends of the political spectrum : the Socialists lost Vincent Auriol, Daniel Mayer Guy Mollet and of the Communists only Waldeck Rochet didn’t meet the firing squad like Thorez, former collaborators like Jean-Louis Tixier-Vignancour got shot in the arm before fleeing to Switzerland and the only surviving member of the French Action party was Georges-Paul Wagner unlike Pierre Boutang and others who would meet the guillotine in an almost tragi-comical repeat of history in which the “mois de silence” would be seen as a Robespierre-an and Stalin-esque show trials and purges but barely reported anywhere in the supposedly free world. Anyone who the government thought could potentially threaten the stability of the French Republic and her overseas territories was either on the government hit list or had been on the literal or metaphorical chopping block.

The new “French State” would serve the interests of PACCATO no matter who was in charge and effectively, with the exception of the nuclear program, the military governments of the “Période directoriale américaniste” were puppet-like extensions of Washington D.C.


Ironically, this made Greece and Italy the only democracies in Continental Europe.


Despite all of its flaws, Italy, Greece and Turkey were the only democracies left in Continental Europe, although Ataturk’s republic would also share the fate of France when the Central Intelligence Agency along with Heinrich Müller (going by the barely allusive alias of Henry Miller) helped stage a coup by notorious philo-Hitlerite ultranationalist Hüseyin Nihâl Atsız along with former defendants of Racism-Turanism trials, just one year later after the then known Istanbul Pogrom, nowadays commonly referred as Turkish Kristalnacht. I wonder how my intimate friend would react to this. We had many healthy discussions about this. Turkish history tends not to be pleasant in general.

But then when history is ?

Muller instead of being allegedly recruited by the Soviets is recruited


As long as they weren’t submissive to or outright communists, Eisenhower was more concerned with realpolitik containment of the Soviets than anything else.


Would remark bitterly future president Stassen. Of course here it was Nixon before.

THE SPUTNIK CRISIS


Operation Osoaviakhim after the end of WW2 in 1944 wielded enormous results for the Soviet Union, not only as a bittersweet propaganda recompense but also to close the military gap Moscow had, with the hundreds of former Nazis experts of aeronautics rocketry electronics, guidance systems, radar and satellites helping Mikoyan to surpass the Americans in those fields, but they also were the reason for legitimising and kickstarting the Comintern cybernetics camp .
The first moment of tension was the Sputnik crisis in 1954, with the Soviet launching a fear of their technological superiority in the Euro-American populace. So imagine if the Soviets got all those nice guys the Americans and Brits had they were taken by the Soviets.


Suddenly, senator McCarthy's fear-mongering became reality to the eyes of the American public.


The second flashpoint of tension with the Soviet Union became the Poznan Crisis, when Comintern troops the protests in Communist Poland, except Germany, who the Kremlin didn’t want to join for the very likely reaction to what would amount to be seen as a blatant repeat of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. I was planning to go for a successful out right revolution but I might start WW3. Or a UN resolution.
 

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Going in order.

  1. Stassen seems more logical than Vanderberg and Nixon then. I need someone to photoshop Stassen instead of Nixon. The only place I can think of is alternatehistory.com but I don't want to create another account and get banned as consequence.
  2. With deep thinking, I have honestly no idea how Nixon would even get close to the White House
  3. Yeah it seems the best option in 1964 after two four Republicans mandates... But who could be his 1964 running mate? In the 1964 Wikipedia entry the Dems had like.... Johnson and Wallace...That's it. I know Wallace went a bit Nazbol later in life.
  4. Thanks for the information on Japan. Basically it amounts to bad moves and bad pr. I think McArthur gunning or arresting protesters wouldn't exactly endear them to the Japanese. I think I might have gone a bit too far with them buying TTL East German AKMs.
  5. On Malcom X I do agree. On MLK I have some genuine doubt on the veracity of the FBI claims, look at what happened not even 24h ago.
Now this is a draft for the next chapter. I will also need to edit Ike presidency . Tell me your opinion.

EISENHOWER’S INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMACY


<< The reasons why the British fought was not only so that we wouldn’t be forced to speak German…but also preserve the Empire >>


De Gaulle had a similar opinion to Churchill. France had miraculously kept his Asian possessions unlike Britain, with the latter's help and was in control of the Belgian territories there (despite they had left the same governor as before), since there was no longer a Belgium to report to. The new president would help them…for a “fee” and they would have to be on their own after a while.


They had a lot of manpower available now that there were plenty of German remnants and collaborators that clearly didn’t want to return. Eisenhower, despite had fought Nazis and their puppets, told that what remained of Petainists and Vichyists had to be pardoned, since there might be more weapons than soldiers and that he did not desired a weak France. De Gaulle reluctantly agreed, just as did with the fact that the Italians were getting away with French lands, in exchange they would receive support in their possessions to keep them in the French Union.


If WWII was won with British intelligence, American steel and Russian blood, the empires of yore would be kept intact until the first biennium of the Eighties thanks to American intelligence and money and German blood and sweat.


Spain and Portugal also were “recipients” of German veterans and American money and intelligence help until the miserable failures of the failed toppling of King Farouk in Egypt in 1952 and the 1953 Iranian and 1954 Guatemalan and Paraguayan putschs made the two Iberian nations realize that the Americans were incompetent in regard with espionage and counter-intelligence wi the CIA only actual success two years after the Sputnik Crisis.


THE FRENCH COUP


In 1956 the American secret service collaborated with their local fifth column, a rag-tag of military personnel of former Free French officers of all the political spectrum, whose first target after the government was none other than the man that had been their leader in war time : De Gaulle. It is unclear how the Marshall of Free France met his untimely demise, but if reports from the Direction générale de la sécurité intérieure archives are not taken as pure speculation, he was tied, blindfolded and shot in the head, subsequently buried in the first pit found and many met an identical fate such as Minister of the Overseas François Mitterrand.

The “National Security Government” would give the same treatment to the opposite ends of the political spectrum : the Socialists lost Vincent Auriol, Daniel Mayer Guy Mollet and of the Communists only Waldeck Rochet didn’t meet the firing squad like Thorez, former collaborators like Jean-Louis Tixier-Vignancour got shot in the arm before fleeing to Switzerland and the only surviving member of the French Action party was Georges-Paul Wagner unlike Pierre Boutang and others who would meet the guillotine in an almost tragi-comical repeat of history in which the “mois de silence” would be seen as a Robespierre-an and Stalin-esque show trials and purges but barely reported anywhere in the supposedly free world. Anyone who the government thought could potentially threaten the stability of the French Republic and her overseas territories was either on the government hit list or had been on the literal or metaphorical chopping block.

The new “French State” would serve the interests of PACCATO no matter who was in charge and effectively, with the exception of the nuclear program, the military governments of the “Période directoriale américaniste” were puppet-like extensions of Washington D.C.


Ironically, this made Greece and Italy the only democracies in Continental Europe.


Despite all of its flaws, Italy, Greece and Turkey were the only democracies left in Continental Europe, although Ataturk’s republic would also share the fate of France when the Central Intelligence Agency along with Heinrich Müller (going by the barely allusive alias of Henry Miller) helped stage a coup by notorious philo-Hitlerite ultranationalist Hüseyin Nihâl Atsız along with former defendants of Racism-Turanism trials, just one year later after the then known Istanbul Pogrom, nowadays commonly referred as Turkish Kristalnacht. I wonder how my intimate friend would react to this. We had many healthy discussions about this. Turkish history tends not to be pleasant in general.

But then when history is ?

Muller instead of being allegedly recruited by the Soviets is recruited


As long as they weren’t submissive to or outright communists, Eisenhower was more concerned with realpolitik containment of the Soviets than anything else.


Would remark bitterly future president Stassen. Of course here it was Nixon before.

THE SPUTNIK CRISIS


Operation Osoaviakhim after the end of WW2 in 1944 wielded enormous results for the Soviet Union, not only as a bittersweet propaganda recompense but also to close the military gap Moscow had, with the hundreds of former Nazis experts of aeronautics rocketry electronics, guidance systems, radar and satellites helping Mikoyan to surpass the Americans in those fields, but they also were the reason for legitimising and kickstarting the Comintern cybernetics camp .
The first moment of tension was the Sputnik crisis in 1954, with the Soviet launching a fear of their technological superiority in the Euro-American populace. So imagine if the Soviets got all those nice guys the Americans and Brits had they were taken by the Soviets.


Suddenly, senator McCarthy's fear-mongering became reality to the eyes of the American public.


The second flashpoint of tension with the Soviet Union became the Poznan Crisis, when Comintern troops the protests in Communist Poland, except Germany, who the Kremlin didn’t want to join for the very likely reaction to what would amount to be seen as a blatant repeat of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. I was planning to go for a successful out right revolution but I might start WW3. Or a UN resolution.
1. Unfortunately, that's a bit beyond my own very limited artistic expertise, which is mostly confined to map-making and (to a lesser extent) flag-making.

2. Fair enough.

3. Well, if Wallace can outright take the Dem nomination, I doubt he would go with his OTL running mate Curtis LeMay (who didn't really have any consistent political positions beyond an uberhawkish 'bomb the Reds to slag everywhere we see them'). More plausible running mates for a victorious Wallace may include Kentucky Governor Albert 'Happy' Chandler, whose stance on segregation was the opposite of Wallace's own but who may represent a critical outreach to moderates, or Texas Governor John Connally, a conservative-leaning Democrat who might be more ideologically compatible with Wallace without totally alienating non-segregationists. I don't really see any of the liberal bigshots like Hubert Humphrey agreeing to run for VP under an overt authoritarian segregationist.

4. Would agree with your final assessment. In general, I would expect a leftist but non-Communist Japan to stick to neutrality and avoid entangling itself with either the capitalist or communist blocs, and to promote demilitarization & pacifism as much as possible - necessarily ruling out buying any foreign arms to the greatest extent possible. Maybe they'd even go the Costa Rica route and eventually disband the JSDF altogether if they think the latter are going to perpetually remain an outpost of right-wing and militarist sentiment, although that would probably require the US and USSR to either certainly pose no threat to Japan whatsoever and/or for the Cold War to end.

5. True dat. We probably won't find out for sure until that stuff's declassified, and maybe not even then. That said, a living MLK is one who will continue to be haunted by the specter of 'he's a commie' due to his increasing shift to emphasizing economic justice (which, as you can see from the Poor People's Campaign's demands, he defined as including full employment; expansive affirmative action; more public housing; increased communal control over education; and generally a radical expansion of welfare - stuff that could truly be called radical and not unjustifiably so).

As to the other stuff, I can't comment much on the business with Turkey & Greece - that's beyond my wheelhouse and I would need to do a lot more research on them first, since atm I'm only really aware of the basics of their Cold War history. Interesting stuff regarding France though, I do know their Fourth Republic was rocked by instability and eventually ended by a military coup. Ironically the plotters wanted to hand power to De Gaulle under the belief that he'd save French Algeria, but turned against him & tried to overthrow him themselves when he betrayed them on that issue, so I could see them ruthlessly mowing him down if he reveals his true colors on the Algerian issue too early.

Working with a brutal far-right, colonialist military dictatorship that's just murdered one of the heroes of WW2 (in popular reckoning anyway) wouldn't be an easy sell to the American public IMO, but I could see Eisenhower and the Dulles brothers thinking it to be a better alternative than De Gaulle bailing out of PACCATO (as he did with NATO's military command IRL) and generally being a constant pain in the ass for them. I'd imagine the more idealistic and UN-oriented Stassen would need a lot of persuasion by the military and intelligence community to continue such a policy though. Meanwhile, Wallace would love it and probably outright praise the French for 'doing what's necessary' if they start genociding Algerians or something.

If Stassen's president by the time of that 'Poznan Revolution' you mention at the end, I'd agree that that seems like a good place for him to put his pro-UN chops to use. Interesting to see McCarthy's name come up, as well.
 

WolfBear

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Ironically the plotters wanted to hand power to De Gaulle under the belief that he'd save French Algeria, but turned against him & tried to overthrow him themselves when he betrayed them on that issue, so I could see them ruthlessly mowing him down if he reveals his true colors on the Algerian issue too early.

Quite interesting that French nationalists' views on Algeria were similar to Jewish ultranationalists' views on Greater Israel: As in, Yes, we want to continue ruling over a huge Muslim population, but we think that we can handle it, and if necessary, we can keep them down. Whereas the pragmatists in both France and Israel, even on the right, wanted to protect their countries' existing French European and Jewish demographics and thus wanted to see the heavily Muslim-majority territories exit their control.
 

ATP

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Going in order.

  1. Stassen seems more logical than Vanderberg and Nixon then. I need someone to photoshop Stassen instead of Nixon. The only place I can think of is alternatehistory.com but I don't want to create another account and get banned as consequence.
  2. With deep thinking, I have honestly no idea how Nixon would even get close to the White House
  3. Yeah it seems the best option in 1964 after two four Republicans mandates... But who could be his 1964 running mate? In the 1964 Wikipedia entry the Dems had like.... Johnson and Wallace...That's it. I know Wallace went a bit Nazbol later in life.
  4. Thanks for the information on Japan. Basically it amounts to bad moves and bad pr. I think McArthur gunning or arresting protesters wouldn't exactly endear them to the Japanese. I think I might have gone a bit too far with them buying TTL East German AKMs.
  5. On Malcom X I do agree. On MLK I have some genuine doubt on the veracity of the FBI claims, look at what happened not even 24h ago.
Now this is a draft for the next chapter. I will also need to edit Ike presidency . Tell me your opinion.

EISENHOWER’S INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMACY


<< The reasons why the British fought was not only so that we wouldn’t be forced to speak German…but also preserve the Empire >>


De Gaulle had a similar opinion to Churchill. France had miraculously kept his Asian possessions unlike Britain, with the latter's help and was in control of the Belgian territories there (despite they had left the same governor as before), since there was no longer a Belgium to report to. The new president would help them…for a “fee” and they would have to be on their own after a while.


They had a lot of manpower available now that there were plenty of German remnants and collaborators that clearly didn’t want to return. Eisenhower, despite had fought Nazis and their puppets, told that what remained of Petainists and Vichyists had to be pardoned, since there might be more weapons than soldiers and that he did not desired a weak France. De Gaulle reluctantly agreed, just as did with the fact that the Italians were getting away with French lands, in exchange they would receive support in their possessions to keep them in the French Union.


If WWII was won with British intelligence, American steel and Russian blood, the empires of yore would be kept intact until the first biennium of the Eighties thanks to American intelligence and money and German blood and sweat.


Spain and Portugal also were “recipients” of German veterans and American money and intelligence help until the miserable failures of the failed toppling of King Farouk in Egypt in 1952 and the 1953 Iranian and 1954 Guatemalan and Paraguayan putschs made the two Iberian nations realize that the Americans were incompetent in regard with espionage and counter-intelligence wi the CIA only actual success two years after the Sputnik Crisis.


THE FRENCH COUP


In 1956 the American secret service collaborated with their local fifth column, a rag-tag of military personnel of former Free French officers of all the political spectrum, whose first target after the government was none other than the man that had been their leader in war time : De Gaulle. It is unclear how the Marshall of Free France met his untimely demise, but if reports from the Direction générale de la sécurité intérieure archives are not taken as pure speculation, he was tied, blindfolded and shot in the head, subsequently buried in the first pit found and many met an identical fate such as Minister of the Overseas François Mitterrand.

The “National Security Government” would give the same treatment to the opposite ends of the political spectrum : the Socialists lost Vincent Auriol, Daniel Mayer Guy Mollet and of the Communists only Waldeck Rochet didn’t meet the firing squad like Thorez, former collaborators like Jean-Louis Tixier-Vignancour got shot in the arm before fleeing to Switzerland and the only surviving member of the French Action party was Georges-Paul Wagner unlike Pierre Boutang and others who would meet the guillotine in an almost tragi-comical repeat of history in which the “mois de silence” would be seen as a Robespierre-an and Stalin-esque show trials and purges but barely reported anywhere in the supposedly free world. Anyone who the government thought could potentially threaten the stability of the French Republic and her overseas territories was either on the government hit list or had been on the literal or metaphorical chopping block.

The new “French State” would serve the interests of PACCATO no matter who was in charge and effectively, with the exception of the nuclear program, the military governments of the “Période directoriale américaniste” were puppet-like extensions of Washington D.C.


Ironically, this made Greece and Italy the only democracies in Continental Europe.


Despite all of its flaws, Italy, Greece and Turkey were the only democracies left in Continental Europe, although Ataturk’s republic would also share the fate of France when the Central Intelligence Agency along with Heinrich Müller (going by the barely allusive alias of Henry Miller) helped stage a coup by notorious philo-Hitlerite ultranationalist Hüseyin Nihâl Atsız along with former defendants of Racism-Turanism trials, just one year later after the then known Istanbul Pogrom, nowadays commonly referred as Turkish Kristalnacht. I wonder how my intimate friend would react to this. We had many healthy discussions about this. Turkish history tends not to be pleasant in general.

But then when history is ?

Muller instead of being allegedly recruited by the Soviets is recruited


As long as they weren’t submissive to or outright communists, Eisenhower was more concerned with realpolitik containment of the Soviets than anything else.


Would remark bitterly future president Stassen. Of course here it was Nixon before.

THE SPUTNIK CRISIS


Operation Osoaviakhim after the end of WW2 in 1944 wielded enormous results for the Soviet Union, not only as a bittersweet propaganda recompense but also to close the military gap Moscow had, with the hundreds of former Nazis experts of aeronautics rocketry electronics, guidance systems, radar and satellites helping Mikoyan to surpass the Americans in those fields, but they also were the reason for legitimising and kickstarting the Comintern cybernetics camp .
The first moment of tension was the Sputnik crisis in 1954, with the Soviet launching a fear of their technological superiority in the Euro-American populace. So imagine if the Soviets got all those nice guys the Americans and Brits had they were taken by the Soviets.


Suddenly, senator McCarthy's fear-mongering became reality to the eyes of the American public.


The second flashpoint of tension with the Soviet Union became the Poznan Crisis, when Comintern troops the protests in Communist Poland, except Germany, who the Kremlin didn’t want to join for the very likely reaction to what would amount to be seen as a blatant repeat of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. I was planning to go for a successful out right revolution but I might start WW3. Or a UN resolution.

Good chapter,BUT - CIA could not arrange orgy in Paris brothel,not mention coup in France.
Aside from that,all plausible.

In OTL german veterans served in Foreign Legion,but not enough to save french colonies.Now,there would be entire army of them.And soviet propaganda in that regard would be true.

I tried find more about Eugene Sanger space plane,but nothing come from it.But,even if it really would be that good,soviets in 1954 certainly do not have technology to built it.

P.S Poznań crisis - soviets do not take polish main cities like Wilno,gave us Królewiec,so...if they do not attack church and smaller property,there should be no crisis.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
Good chapter,BUT - CIA could not arrange orgy in Paris brothel,not mention coup in France.
Aside from that,all plausible.

In OTL german veterans served in Foreign Legion,but not enough to save french colonies.Now,there would be entire army of them.And soviet propaganda in that regard would be true.

I tried find more about Eugene Sanger space plane,but nothing come from it.But,even if it really would be that good,soviets in 1954 certainly do not have technology to built it.

P.S Poznań crisis - soviets do not take polish main cities like Wilno,gave us Królewiec,so...if they do not attack church and smaller property,there should be no crisis.

  1. This timeline will have an even less competent
  2. The keeping the colonies will not last forever. Veterans are humans because they wither and die...the colonies will just be as such for longer.
  3. I am changing the date to 1956. You are right that is a bit TOO early. But thanks for reminding me that Sanger existed.
  4. Anatol Fejgin and Salomon Morel will be the reason why Poland rebels.
On Part 4, I need political figures from Poland in that period. From far right to far left. Do you know any ? Looking at Polish wikipedia isn't helping.

@Circle of Willis sorry it will take time to reply to your last assessments!
 

ATP

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  1. This timeline will have an even less competent
  2. The keeping the colonies will not last forever. Veterans are humans because they wither and die...the colonies will just be as such for longer.
  3. I am changing the date to 1956. You are right that is a bit TOO early. But thanks for reminding me that Sanger existed.
  4. Anatol Fejgin and Salomon Morel will be the reason why Poland rebels.
On Part 4, I need political figures from Poland in that period. From far right to far left. Do you know any ? Looking at Polish wikipedia isn't helping.

@Circle of Willis sorry it will take time to reply to your last assessments!


More important - catholic primarch Wyszyński,who was imprisoned but not tortured.Considered as "interrex" by poles/acting as King/
commies had 2 factions - jews like Morel and Różański who was smart torturers,head of polsh NKWD was Józef Różański/Goldberg really/ and his brother Benjamin Goldberg as Józef Borejsza co-ruled Poland,too.
Althought in reality soviet embassy still decided what they must to do.
Bolesław Bierut was commie,and formally he ruled,but not only soviet embassy,but even polish jews was more important then him.
Hilary Minc was jew who destroyed polish economy trying to turn it into communism.If you want working polish economy,you must remove him first.

stupid polish cryminals like Mieczysław Moczar/well,he was ukrainian/,and slighty smarter polish commies like Gomółka who wonted "polish way to communism"

In Poland there was Bolesław Piasecki who was polish nationalist working for soviets./not polish commies,soviets/

In London - represantives of polish nationalists,farmers,catholics and socialists.If we had free election,farmers or nationalists would win.
nationalists - Jędrzej Giertych,Tadeusz Bielecki.
farmers/PSL/ - Stanisław Mikołajczyk
catholics/Stronnictwo Pracy/ - Jan Jankowski
socialists/PPS/ - Tomasz Arciszewski
 
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TheRejectionist

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@Circle of Willis @ATP

EISENHOWER-STASSEN PRESIDENCIES (1949 -1965)




If WWII was won with British intelligence, American steel and Russian blood, the empires of yore would be kept intact until the first biennium of the Eighties thanks to American intelligence and money and German blood and sweat.



Eisenhower and Stassen had inherited a delicate situation with the Truman administration. Helping Chiang Kai Shek had avoided a domino effect which could have spilled over into neighboring French Indochina, Thailand and Ba Maw’s State of Burma, but the British loss of India proved to be a difficult challenge, almost compromising London’s empire, but unlike his predecessor, Ike was less for self-determination, as demonstrated his acceptance of Ethiopia’s annexation of Italian Somalia and Eritrea; Americo-Indian relations were strained to say the least and while the United States had normalized relations with Bhose just as they had done with Sukarno, the membership of Portugal and France which guaranteed no further territorial concessions or modification, meaning their overseas exclaves were also guaranteed protection and soon Bhutan, Nepal and Afghanistan (which was enlisted by the British against Bhose and got compensated with Sind, Balochistan, Indian Pashtunistan, but failed to take Punjab) were safeguarded against Free India’s potential aggressions; following the resolution of the Chinese Civil War, the administration had another headache but more close to home : the Puerto Rican Revolt ; the unincorporated territory had exploded in anger after decades of occupation and the Puerto Rican Nationalist Party had taken advantage of the absence of the overwhelming majority of the National Guard that was yet to return from China and easily took over the island, demanding justice and freedom and Ike was undecided on how to properly react and before anyone could suggest a military intervention or a similar move Stassen argued to work out a deal with the PRNP , proposing to Puerto Rican inhabitants the choice of a referendum in which they could choose to be incorporated into the Union as a new state or indepedence but this last option would have also the obligation of Puerto Rico joining not only the Organization of American States but the PACCATO alliance as well.

Unsurprisingly with the PRNP control, most of their compatriots voted to be independent despite the catch of having to still be aligned with the United States even though de facto Puerto Rico wouldn’t even try to contribute anything significant during the Lukewarm War, but Eisenhower and Stassen had saved face for the time being. Their attention soon turned to the Philippines and British Malaya : both had to be dealt with quickly to show that Communism wouldn’t be tolerated ; so the United States Armed Forces in China were sent to those lands and brutally suppressed both rebellions with total media silence and by February 1951 both Communist Party of Malaya (CPM) and the Partido Komunista ng Pilipinas-1930 were nearly extinct and no longer a preoccupation for the Eisenhower administration, who by then had its attention returned its attention to Japan once more, Treaty of Peace with Japan in San Francisco being signed the 8th September 1951, with Eisenhower bitterly agreeing to it despite they had to recognize Soviet authority and claims over South Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands while at the same time renouncing any idea of military bases in Japan.

It wasn’t long before another foreign issue came to Washington's attention, this time in Africa with the Mau Mau Uprising of the next year, with the administration reacting the same way they had done in British Malaya and the Philippines : with efficient brutality while supported by the “Germans of the French Foreign Legions”, former Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS personnel that now were footsoldiers, drill sergeants and other jobs in the French Colonial Empire.

It wasn’t all of a success for Ike however : the Central Intelligence Agency attempted regime changes in Egypt, Iran, Costa Rica, Guatemala and Paraguay had failed and it was clear as day that Washington D.C. wouldn’t always get its way; if that wasn’t enough, in 1955 the Buraimi dispute turned into a war between the US-friendly Saudia Arabia and PACCATO member United Kingdom, with the peace treaty granting the Aden Protectorate the previously lost by Yemen regions of Asir, Qunfudah,Al Bahah, Jizan and Najran, meanwhile the Trucial states got a land connection with Kuwait who would also get its claims validated and recognized; recently available documents clearly show that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was the aggressor, but the threats made Saud bin Abdulaziz Al Saud regarding petrol had an effect of galvanizing the VP to promote energetic self sufficiency and started a program for using the power of the atom to achieve such goal.

In the last two months of the year it became evident of the instability of the French Republic, or so it seemed according to badly researched investigations and intelligence reports, probably exacerbated by the more often than not independent-minded French political class.

Stassen had to be convinced strongly it was utterly necessary to do something about the French Republic, especially because he had seen the miserable spectacles that were their past tries at interventions, rightfully pointing out their (reluctant) “allies” Spain and Portugal, who were also “recipients” of German veterans and American money, refused the help of their intelligence due to the pathetic failures that were the attempted topplings of King Farouk, Mossadegh and Arbenz which made the two Iberian autocracies realize that the Americans were incompetent in regard with espionage and counter-intelligence and had to be on their own.


Eisenhower was clear:


<< Unlike the Italians, where the far opposite sides of the political spectrum had found quid pro quos with the center, the French socio-political situation is volatile. >>


The Vice-President had unfortunately already used his political capital with Ike in persuading him to reply to Emmet Till’s mother's letter, a move that could have very well compromised his chance to become President.


<<I don’t want to put in charge people who shot our boys in France who sided with Hitler rather than their own countrymen >>


Eisenhower did agree with the sentiment and when Operation Gaul was enacted in the latter half of January 1956 the a rag-tag of military personnel of former Free French, whose first target after the government was none other than the man that had been their leader in wartime : De Gaulle. It is unclear how the Marshall of Free France met his untimely demise, but if reports from the Direction générale de la sécurité intérieure archives are not taken as pure speculation, he was tied, blindfolded and shot in the head, subsequently buried in the first pit found and many met an identical fate such as Minister of the Overseas François Mitterrand.

The Central Intelligence Agency and the “National Security Government” would give the same treatment to the opposite ends of the political spectrum : the Socialists lost Vincent Auriol, Daniel Mayer Guy Mollet and of the Communists only Waldeck Rochet didn’t meet the firing squad like Thorez, meanwhile former Axis collaborators like Jean-Louis Tixier-Vignancour either fled or got shot in the streets and the only surviving member of the French Action party was Georges-Paul Wagner unlike Pierre Boutang and others who would meet the guillotine in an almost tragi-comical repeat of history.

the “mois de silence” would be seen as a Robespierre-an and Stalin-esque show trials and purges but barely reported anywhere in the supposedly free world. Anyone who the government thought could potentially threaten the stability of the French Republic and her overseas territories was either on the government hit list or had been on the literal or metaphorical chopping block.

The new “French State” would serve the interests of PACCATO no matter who was in charge and effectively, with the exception of the nuclear program, the military governments of the “Période directoriale américaniste” were the Parisian puppet-like extensions of Washington D.C.


A first major (although diplomatic) victory against Moscow came with the 1956 Poznań protests, where a hundred thousands Polish protesters clashed against the Polish People's Army, Internal Security Corps and Służba Bezpieczeństwa, all commanded by none other than Anatol Fejgin on orders of Ministers of Internal Affairs of People's Republic of Poland Salomon Morel, former commander of the Zgoda labour camp and Jaworzno concentration camps, with him treating the protesters as “enemy insurgents and combatants” and the result was near chaos : over thirty-thousands protesters dead and nearly seven thousands wounded, but the government forces suffered eight-thousand dead and three hundred and half wounded, the consequences of this violent response was a full blown revolution due to word of mouth that grew so much that many Soviet and Polish military barracks got overpowered by massive waves of angry mobs, but the stroke that broke the camel's back was the execution of non-tenured professor of Catholic University of Lublin Karol Józef Wojtyła.


Soon, banners could be seen everywhere with written :


NIGDY WIĘCEJ! (NEVER AGAIN!)


PAMIĘTAJ WOJTYŁA! (REMEMBER WOJTYLA!)


Mikoyan was, understandably, livid. And panicking at the same time. Many wanted to invade to restore order, especially Molotov’s faction, but allegedly Zhukov had enough sway to convince Anastas that such action would compromise the public image of the Soviet Union.

Swallowing his pride, when Stassen proposed the USSR a neutral Poland, he accepted, but the Withdrawal Treaty that came with it had a couple of written clauses in which the Central European nation could not join any alliance and couldn’t ban the Polish United Workers' Party. The barely organized Polish revolutionary leadership, despite expressing enourmous outrage, accepted. As the last of Soviet soldiers and People’s Army withdrew, the Polish government-in-exile quickly flew and returned to Poland to organize the first (actually free) election of Poland in decades, with victory awarded to Tadeusz Bielecki with the promise of “NEVER AGAIN!”.


A transcript of a recording between an operative and Mikoyan reports the following :


From Nikolay [REDACTED]


“Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Soviet Union Anastas Ivanovich Mikoyan, we lost Poland due to the brutal brainless machinations of Fejgin and Morel and I had told my superior that both were liabilities to the cause of the Communist International. Morel used methods which could only be described as butchery, I don’t think even the Fascists me and my comrades fought in the Great Patriotic War would go so low as them. It is no surprise that the Polish workers reacted as they did by defenestrating and impaling Fejgin and tearing apart Salomon.


I would advise a cautious approach from now on.”



As if a heart attack that hit Eisenhower in 1955 had not been enough, he and Stassen had to deal with the Civil Rights Movement, with the American Vice President strongly lobbying for much integration efforts, publicly declaring support for the U.S. Supreme Court decisions in Sweatt v. Painter (1950) McLaurin v. Oklahoma State Regents (1950) and Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka (1954), and pushed the general turned President to reply to Emmet Till’s mother’s letter, with Ike remarking later in life that Stassen was too much vocal and too partisan for being a second-in-command, expressing that he was surprised that they were both elected for two consecutive terms when “ everything Stassen did or said had the potential to compromise my presidency and his political future… I honestly don’t know what shocked me more, that he managed to win the primaries both times or that he won the elections in 1956 and 1960”.

They also had to constantly deal with the increasing Red Scare and McCarthyism, who “had the decency of dying of alcohol poisoning” shortly after the beginning of the Sputnik Crisis in December 1956.

When he was inaugurated, Stassen first priority was to understand why the Tech Gap was happening and set the Central Intelligence Agency to find out answers : with many operators of the bureau, it was discovered that the Soviets shortly before “liberating” Norway, the Low Countries and Germany had initiated Operation Osoaviakhim which wielded enormous results for the Soviet Union, not only as a bittersweet recompense but also to attempt to close the military gap Moscow had, with the hundreds of former Nazis experts helping Mikoyan’s Comintern to surpass the Americans in those fields in that period of time, later becoming the reason for legitimising and kickstarting the Comintern cybernetics camp.

Sergei Pavlovich Korolev couldn’t ask for better help in his projects than the Third Reich’s former employees, a sentiment shared by many of his colleagues and affiliates such as the mathematician Mstislav Keldysh and Igor Kurchatov, the latter bittersweetly remarking “We wouldn’t had the power of the atom so quickly if we hadn’t spilled so much blood to conquer Germany”.

The list the CIA recovered was enourmous :

Aeronautics and rocketry


Eugen Sänger

Hans Amtmann

Herbert Axster

Erich Ball

Oscar Bauschinger

Hermann Beduerftig

Rudi Beichel

Anton Beier

Herbert Bergeler

Magnus von Braun

Wernher von Braun

Ernst Czerlinsky

Theodor Buchhold

Walter Burose

Adolf Busemann

GN Constan

Werner Dahm

Konrad Dannenberg

Kurt H. Debus

Gerd De Beek

Walter Dornberger - head of rocket programme

Gerhard Drawe

Friedrich Duerr

Ernst R. G. Eckert

Rudolph Edse

Otto Eisenhardt

Krafft Arnold Ehricke

Alfred Finzel

Edward Fischel

Karl Fleischer

Anton Flettner

Anselm Franz

Herbert Fuhrmann

Ernst Geissler

Werner Gengelbach

Dieter Grau

Hans Gruene

Herbert Guendel

Fritz Haber

Heinz Haber

Karl Hager

Guenther Haukohl

Karl Heimburg

Emil Hellebrand

Gerhard B. Heller

Bruno Helm

Rudolf Hermann

Bruno Heusinger

Hans Heuter

Guenther Hintze

Sighard F. Hoerner

Kurt Hohenemser

Oscar Holderer

Helmut Horn

Hans Henning Hosenthien

Dieter Huzel

Walter Jacobi

Erich Kaschig

Ernst Klauss

Theodore Knacke

Siegfried Knemeyer

Heinz-Hermann Koelle

Gustav Kroll

Willi Kuberg

Werner Kuers

Hermann Kurzweg

Hermann Lange

Hans Lindenberg

Hans Lindenmayer

Alexander Martin Lippisch

Robert Lusser

Hans Maus

Helmut Merk

Joseph Michel

Hans Milde

Heinz Millinger

Rudolf Minning

William Mrazek

Hans Multhopp

Erich Neubert

Hans von Ohain

Robert Paetz

Hans Palaoro

Kurt Patt

Hans Paul

Fritz Pauli

Arnold Peter

Helmuth Pfaff

Theodor Poppel

Werner Rosinski

Heinrich Rothe

Ludwig Roth

Arthur Rudolph

Friedrich von Saurma

Edgar Schaeffer

Martin Schilling

Helmut Schlitt[

Albert Schuler

August Schulze

Walter Schwidetzky

Ernst Steinhoff

Wolfgang Steurer

Heinrich Struck

Ernst Stuhlinger

Bernhard Tessmann

Adolf Thiel

Georg von Tiesenhausen

Werner Tiller

JG Tschinkel

Arthur Urbanski

Fritz Vandersee

Richard Vogt

Werner Voss

Theodor Vowe

Herbert A. Wagner

Hermann Rudolf Wagner

Hermann Weidner

Georg Rickhey - director of the slave labour Mittelwerk factory

Walter Fritz Wiesemann

Philipp Wolfgang Zettler-Seidel



Architecture


Heinz Hilten and Hannes Luehrsen.


Electronics - including guidance systems, radar and satellites


Wilhelm Angele

Ernst Baars

Josef Boehm

Hans Fichtner

Hans Friedrich

Eduard Gerber

Georg Goubau

Walter Haeussermann

Otto Heinrich Hirschler

Otto Hoberg[

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ATP

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It actually could happen.In that situation,soviets could react to Poznań crisis like that.I see many commies running from Poland here - even if they are not banned,nobody would vote for them for next generation.
And,Poland actually could become soviet ally on its own later,if they continue to be reasonable,and USA continue to be inneficient.
 

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Good stuff. I think you've nailed Stassen's character - certainly he must have not only been idealistic, but a pretty stubborn guy too, what with him running for president 13 times IRL. I'll guess that the Puerto Rican nationalists didn't launch an attack on the Capitol in your timeline as they did historically, both since you didn't mention it and because it would've invited a much harsher response from Washington than the relatively conciliatory one Stassen advocated.

As far as the hard-line French leadership goes, my suggestion would be to look to the leaders of the 1958 and 1961 military coups. Although they may have been pretty brutal colonialists and counterinsurgency pioneers, the generals involved were aligned with Free France during WW2 and celebrated for it (Raoul Salan for example was the most decorated soldier in the French Army until he tried to overthrow De Gaulle IRL), so they should theoretically be a little less offensive to Stassen's and Eisenhower's sensibilities than straight up Vichy dudes would be. If they need a civilian puppet for legitimacy purposes, I would recommend looking up politicians with a pro-colonial record such as Georges Bidault.

Only other recommendation I can think of at this time is that the new French regime should probably be called something other than the 'French State', since that was literally the official name of Vichy France. 'French Nation', perhaps, or 'French National State' just to distinguish it a little from the old collaborator state? Maybe even 'French Social Republic', there's an association with the Republic of Salò (AKA the Italian Social Republic) to worry about but maybe that's an obscure enough topic for the anti-De Gaulle plotters to get away with it.
 
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