Politicians and Government Cringe Thread

Cherico

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Third Gen is usually the cut off point and anything past that is purely American.

this is why america has a cycle of openness and closeness, america perodically closes down in order to assimilate the current crop of immigrants we are entering a new period of closeness.
 

DarthOne

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this is why america has a cycle of openness and closeness, america perodically closes down in order to assimilate the current crop of immigrants we are entering a new period of closeness.
You underestimate just how many have come to America in recent years. There’s more of them then the other immigrants cycles by an order of magnitude.

Also, you forget our illegal aliens issue and our pours souther border.
 

Jormungandr

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By 4th Gen in most cases extended family in other countries might as well be strangers
Same thing happens in the UK: third or fourth gen Pakistani or other migrants are completely alien to their expanded family back in the Old Country, or even their parents/grandparents.

This often leads to tragedy when the Western, British kids are expected to marry their cousin or uncle fifth removed or something back in Pakistan, and they're like, "fuck off, I have a boy/girlfriend here. And marrying family? That's fucking gross!", and their very much still traditional family doesn't take that too well ("but we promised you'd marry them! You should do this for the honour of the family!" "Yeah, no, fuck the family.")
 

Zachowon

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That is one thing I am glad about western culture. The further Generations are here, the more they get out of bad traditions of thoer old country
 

Bacle

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Hurricane warnings aren't issues on the day, they tend to happen a while before. There is nothing there now and the rally could happen, yes that is right and is the case now. But a rally is a biglt bigger than a cookout like what DeSantis did which means it isn't as easy to just change the hours and move around.

Not to mention like I said this is hardly the massive W DeSantis people seem to think when all other rallies have been going normally, and the fact Trump still recovered voting intentions on polls and had a CNN town hall where he humiliated CNN by not only trashing down their arguments but also by making them agree to a Townhall in the first place because he is the only thing they have that can pull any sort of views.

This argument would work better if there were some actual numbers being shown. What was the public on Trump's rallies for the claims he is "falling off" compared to DeSantis? What is the event that DeSantis is at exactly? Is it actually only a DeSantis rally or is it some GOP in general thing or is it something else? How long ago was the Trump Rally canceled? Things like that.




DeSantis straight up saying the worship of 'free market' prinicples has just meant that corporatism has nothing to rein it in, and that the GOP effectively just became corporatist pretending to care about the 'free market' and acting like only gov interference is 'bad' for the 'free market'.
 

Zyobot

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Same thing happens in the UK: third or fourth gen Pakistani or other migrants are completely alien to their expanded family back in the Old Country, or even their parents/grandparents.

This often leads to tragedy when the Western, British kids are expected to marry their cousin or uncle fifth removed or something back in Pakistan, and they're like, "fuck off, I have a boy/girlfriend here. And marrying family? That's fucking gross!", and their very much still traditional family doesn't take that too well ("but we promised you'd marry them! You should do this for the honour of the family!" "Yeah, no, fuck the family.")

Might regret asking, but what kind of tragedy are we talking about, exactly?

For one, I kinda’ doubt the extended family back in Pakistan has any power to enforce it. Of course, their parents and grandparents in the UK itself seem to be another story, since they’re on British soil and actually have power over the kids, so…
 

Sobek

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DeSantis straight up saying the worship of 'free market' prinicples has just meant that corporatism has nothing to rein it in, and that the GOP effectively just became corporatist pretending to care about the 'free market' and acting like only gov interference is 'bad' for the 'free market'.



That is true. "Free market" has become a GOP slang for "massive oligopoly enforced by government backing" where the only way you can have freedom to do business is if you are rich enough to lobby your interests.

Trump's attack on China was against those "free market" GOP principles, which is why the Chamber of Comerce was so eager to help "fortify" 2020 and make sure Biden won.

If DeSantis wants any chance to win 2028 this is what he should do. And maybe be honest and admit he is running. Less Israeli worship please.
 

Jormungandr

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Might regret asking, but what kind of tragedy are we talking about, exactly?

For one, I kinda’ doubt the extended family back in Pakistan has any power to enforce it. Of course, their parents and grandparents in the UK itself seem to be another story, since they’re on British soil and actually have power over the kids, so…
Family basically disowning and kicking them out (this includes teenagers), honour killings (where the male relatives kill the daughter that refuses to marry the man they've picked out for her), acid attacks and other harm (such as physical violence), mistreatment, and even kidnapping (a "holiday" to Pakistan, for example, results in her being kept there against her will, sometimes forcibly married to someone old enough to be her father, and her passport taken/destroyed).

Fucking hell, god help them if they're a Muslim dating a Hindu, for example -- one of the actresses who played one of the Patil Twins in the Harry Potter films was assaulted by her family because her then-boyfriend was Hindu (she was raised in the UK but her family were Bangladeshi-Muslim) -- jokes on them, though! She disowned them, got away from them, married the guy, and now has a kid with him. Good on her.

But yeah, it's far more common with girls than boys.
 

The Whispering Monk

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That is true. "Free market" has become a GOP slang for "massive oligopoly enforced by government backing" where the only way you can have freedom to do business is if you are rich enough to lobby your interests.
Eeeeehhhh...kinda. The primary beneficiary of big corpo now is actually the Left. That's not to say that the RINOs don't benefit a lot. Both sides do to the detriment of the citizenry.
 
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Zyobot

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Family basically disowning and kicking them out (this includes teenagers), honour killings (where the male relatives kill the daughter that refuses to marry the man they've picked out for her), acid attacks and other harm (such as physical violence), mistreatment, and even kidnapping (a "holiday" to Pakistan, for example, results in her being kept there against her will, sometimes forcibly married to someone old enough to be her father, and her passport taken/destroyed).

Fucking hell, god help them if they're a Muslim dating a Hindu, for example -- one of the actresses who played one of the Patil Twins in the Harry Potter films was assaulted by her family because her then-boyfriend was Hindu (she was raised in the UK but her family were Bangladeshi-Muslim) -- jokes on them, though! She disowned them, got away from them, married the guy, and now has a kid with him. Good on her.

But yeah, it's far more common with girls than boys.

I see...

Well, maybe it's more a topic for the Immigration and Multiculturalism News Thread, but if they're able to get away with bringing that much Third World crap into Britain, then I suppose the UK authorities really are cucked and have their priorities hopelessly sideways. :(
 

King Arts

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Family basically disowning and kicking them out (this includes teenagers), honour killings (where the male relatives kill the daughter that refuses to marry the man they've picked out for her), acid attacks and other harm (such as physical violence), mistreatment, and even kidnapping (a "holiday" to Pakistan, for example, results in her being kept there against her will, sometimes forcibly married to someone old enough to be her father, and her passport taken/destroyed).

Fucking hell, god help them if they're a Muslim dating a Hindu, for example -- one of the actresses who played one of the Patil Twins in the Harry Potter films was assaulted by her family because her then-boyfriend was Hindu (she was raised in the UK but her family were Bangladeshi-Muslim) -- jokes on them, though! She disowned them, got away from them, married the guy, and now has a kid with him. Good on her.

But yeah, it's far more common with girls than boys.
I mean Islam is bad for sure. But if you think about it mixed marriages are bad and cheering them on is just liberalism.


So importing their third world shithole problems to the US. I'm of the opinion that foreigners should not be allowed to participate in US politics until like the third generation born here. Too many people from those countries bring their baggage with them and it just causes nothing but problems.
Nah fuck that shit. We want more immigrants fuck most Americans that have ancestors here for a long time are worthless trash and immigrants are better citizens.
 

Cherico

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You underestimate just how many have come to America in recent years. There’s more of them then the other immigrants cycles by an order of magnitude.

Also, you forget our illegal aliens issue and our pours souther border.

Mexico isn't sending as many as they used to and applying pressure upon mexico to close their southern boarder is very much doable. Trump was able to do it for example, and it makes political sense for mexico to do so because they don't like the migrant groups tramping through their country either.

And if mexico doesn't like the idea they will dislike the idea of a militerized boarder even more.
 

King Arts

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Define the highlighted part for me please.
A marriage between a Christian and non Christian practically there is no difference between a marriage between a Hindu and a Muslim because they will end up in the same afterlife. But ideologically Christians Muslims and Jews should not marry outside of their faith. Hindus Buddhists and those who have their afterlife based on actions instead of belief this does not apply to though.

The problem with mixed marriages is that if you are part of the Abrahamic faiths (where belief in the one true God and the correct means of worship is important) and then you marry someone outside the faith it means one of two things either you don't believe what your religion teaches about the afterlife OR you don't actually love and hold affection for your spouse and see them as just a fucktoy or something else an ATM status or whatever. I guess for Muslim males they don't care about their wives and see them as just property and there is no affection.

I'm assuming that you would be angry and if you can't get angry because you are overpowered you would be sad and depressed if your spouse was being raped and tortured. Yet hell is taught as being the WORST form of punishment imaginable the people who are trapped there would envy the tender ministration of those who were in concentration camps, or were enslaved by cruel masters. Hell is both the worst of the mortal world and with added spiritual torment on top of that.

I have to question how anyone could believe that and still be A ok with marrying someone who they believe will be condemned to that sort of torment, would it really be heaven for you a place of eternal bliss if someone you supposedly love is suffering the worst torment imaginable?

This is the fault of our govt. enabling/fostering the sense of entitlement in much of our current population.
Not really. While yes the wellfare queens are trash, and some poor white rural folk are hill billies. At least most of them are not any worse than history. I was primarily referring to upper class and middle upper class people the ones who propagate and spread communism.
 

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