Police Corruption Thread.

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No animals that kill or abuse humans without being trained to do it need to be put down. That dog now could be more aggressive towards people who it should not be aggressive towards. There is a reason we hunt down man eaters, also people are protective of their pet animals the cops being forced to kill the dog will hurt them a lot.
... They were trained to do it? What do you think police dogs are trained to do? The dog was told 'sic' and released, the dog sicced.

The problem here are the cops releasing the dog, not the dog.
 

King Arts

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... They were trained to do it? What do you think police dogs are trained to do? The dog was told 'sic' and released, the dog sicced.

The problem here are the cops releasing the dog, not the dog.
Dogs still have training they will react if their handler is killed. Honestly an animal hurting a human that was not supposed to be hurt needs to be put down. I don’t know why you are so invested in police doggos. I mean if a dog was trained like a police dog and was siced on someone they’d put it down also.
 

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Dogs still have training they will react if their handler is killed. Honestly an animal hurting a human that was not supposed to be hurt needs to be put down. I don’t know why you are so invested in police doggos. I mean if a dog was trained like a police dog and was siced on someone they’d put it down also.
The handler wanted the human to be hurt. IDK how to make this clearer to you.

The bolded part shows how off you are:

First, the dog shown was a trained like a police dog because it was a police dog. Second, it was sicced on someone.

Second, no, they don't put down cop dogs that are sicced on people, because that's literally half their job, that and smell tests. The dog did exactly as it was told to do: the issue was that it was told to do this.


You are the equivalent of someone blaming a cops gun for shooting someone when the cop pulled the trigger. There was no misfire, no negligent discharge: the cop is the problem not the gun.
 

King Arts

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The handler wanted the human to be hurt. IDK how to make this clearer to you.

The bolded part shows how off you are:

First, the dog shown was a trained like a police dog because it was a police dog. Second, it was sicced on someone.

Second, no, they don't put down cop dogs that are sicced on people, because that's literally half their job, that and smell tests. The dog did exactly as it was told to do: the issue was that it was told to do this.


You are the equivalent of someone blaming a cops gun for shooting someone when the cop pulled the trigger. There was no misfire, no negligent discharge: the cop is the problem not the gun.
Are you dense or not understanding what I’m saying. If you as a private individual decided to get a German shepherd and then train it just like a police dog and then you as a private citizen decided to sit your dog on me unjustly. Then after you are arrested your dog would be put down. I don’t see why police dogs should have more “rights” than normal dogs. Also no dogs are not like guns cops don’t hold a funderal if their gun breaks they will if their dog is killed.
 

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Are you dense or not understanding what I’m saying. If you as a private individual decided to get a German shepherd and then train it just like a police dog and then you as a private citizen decided to sit your dog on me unjustly. Then after you are arrested your dog would be put down. I don’t see why police dogs should have more “rights” than normal dogs. Also no dogs are not like guns cops don’t hold a funderal if their gun breaks they will if their dog is killed.
... That's not what your previous sentence implied.

Also, neither dog should be put down. The owners should.
 

King Arts

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... That's not what your previous sentence implied.

Also, neither dog should be put down. The owners should.
The first sentence said I don’t know why you are so invested in police dogs as opposed to normal dogs. The next sentence if a dog was trained LIKE a police dog to be aggressive and attack on order it would be put down if it was an illegal attack.

As for your last sentence maybe but that’s not how the law is, i generally don’t like giving police extra rights and privileges, so if something bad happens to regular people cops shouldn’t get a pass. Police dogs are cops they are part of the team they aren’t mere tools. Police dogs and civilians dogs should be equal.
 

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The first sentence said I don’t know why you are so invested in police dogs as opposed to normal dogs. The next sentence if a dog was trained LIKE a police dog to be aggressive and attack on order it would be put down if it was an illegal attack.
Okay, to me, your statement was confusing:
I mean if a dog was trained like a police dog and was siced on someone they’d put it down also.
This is not a clear sentence. If you had said something like "
I mean if a civilian dog was trained like a police dog and was siced on someone they'd put it down also.
I would have understood.

As for your last sentence maybe but that’s not how the law is, i generally don’t like giving police extra rights and privileges, so if something bad happens to regular people cops shouldn’t get a pass. Police dogs are cops they are part of the team they aren’t mere tools. Police dogs and civilians dogs should be equal.
See, I agree with you on nearly everything here. But I don't view police dogs as police but as dogs used by police, because they are not sentient beings. They can't make a moral or immoral decision as they are an animal. Hence why I don't believe in punishing the dog for an owners misdeed.

Also, the solution to an injustice is not to make that injustice apply to everyone equally.
 

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This thread hasn't been bumped up a bit. I guess Biden has fixed Law Enforcement... or has he?

Two people are fighting each other on the street which is bad, whatever. But it was apparently a mutual combat type of thing. They then STOP fighting when a Police Guard or whatever runs over, hits the participant who is sitting down after the altercation and then walks away like nothing happens in front of multiple witnesses... Apparently the victim died at the scene. 😔

And it's caught on video!

(Warning: Graphic)
 

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Inmate at a Minnesota County Jail dies from an apparent rupture in his intestine after ingesting a bag of drugs prior to his arrest.

Significant because he told officers he had done so, but after observation at hospital was taken to jail with directions to have him return if he shows any "concerning symptoms." Later he's caught on video crawling on the jail floor in pain as jail staff look on passively. He died in custody the day after his arrest.


Bellamy earned this death penalty after being allegedly apprehended for fleeing from police in a suspected stolen vehicle and illegally possessing brass knuckles.

 
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So basically a man who was in police custody following a "welfare check" froze to death. I have no idea why the Sheriff's department thought they could cover this up and get away with it, but apparently they did, because they never even bothered to release any kind of statement until after a local news channel reported on it, following statements from the ER doctor who tried to treat a man who was already a corpse. The statement they released is an appallingly obvious lie, where they claim the man was conscious and alert as he was taken to the hospital for "medical evaluation" arrived there that way, and only after he'd been in the ER for some time did he die, which completely contradicts what the ER said and has in its reports. The guy had a temperature of 72 degrees when the ER got him. Also, camera footage from the jail's loading dock was released which shows deputies carrying the already obviously dead man over to an SUV before loading him into it, and the deputy who leaked it got fired in retaliation. The family is suing, but I really can't help but think that the entire department here should be arrested and charged with torturing this man to death.
 

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The handler wanted the human to be hurt. IDK how to make this clearer to you.

The bolded part shows how off you are:

First, the dog shown was a trained like a police dog because it was a police dog. Second, it was sicced on someone.

Second, no, they don't put down cop dogs that are sicced on people, because that's literally half their job, that and smell tests. The dog did exactly as it was told to do: the issue was that it was told to do this.


You are the equivalent of someone blaming a cops gun for shooting someone when the cop pulled the trigger. There was no misfire, no negligent discharge: the cop is the problem not the gun.

Not only are police dogs that viciously attack people not put down; there are heavy fines and imprisonment for five to ten years potentially for fighting back against one and even injuring it let alone killing it.

Let that sink in. In the eyes of the police state, you - the deemed "criminal" which can range from a drug trafficker to just a man minding his own business that doesn't agree with some crazy degenerate bullshit like state sponsored genital mutilation or some shit - has less rights than a police dog in that moment. You are expected to submit and allow the dog to rip you apart; and if you fight back and injure or kill the dog you get heavily fined and five to ten years in prison.

The police are just the enforcers of the state and elite interests. Always have been. And just like the military, over ninety percent of them will just follow orders and "just do their job" no matter what the orders are.
 

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Not only are police dogs that viciously attack people not put down; there are heavy fines and imprisonment for five to ten years potentially for fighting back against one and even injuring it let alone killing it.

Let that sink in. In the eyes of the police state, you - the deemed "criminal" which can range from a drug trafficker to just a man minding his own business that doesn't agree with some crazy degenerate bullshit like state sponsored genital mutilation or some shit - has less rights than a police dog in that moment. You are expected to submit and allow the dog to rip you apart; and if you fight back and injure or kill the dog you get heavily fined and five to ten years in prison.

The police are just the enforcers of the state and elite interests. Always have been. And just like the military, over ninety percent of them will just follow orders and "just do their job" no matter what the orders are.
Yes, I agree. But the issue here is the cops, not the dogs. If something like this happens, cops should be arrested and charged. A dog that was told to sic, and sicced, did nothing wrong. It's not supposed to know about human rights, the handler is.
 

Ixian

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Not only are police dogs that viciously attack people not put down; there are heavy fines and imprisonment for five to ten years potentially for fighting back against one and even injuring it let alone killing it.

Let that sink in. In the eyes of the police state, you - the deemed "criminal" which can range from a drug trafficker to just a man minding his own business that doesn't agree with some crazy degenerate bullshit like state sponsored genital mutilation or some shit - has less rights than a police dog in that moment. You are expected to submit and allow the dog to rip you apart; and if you fight back and injure or kill the dog you get heavily fined and five to ten years in prison.

The police are just the enforcers of the state and elite interests. Always have been. And just like the military, over ninety percent of them will just follow orders and "just do their job" no matter what the orders are.

If a police dog attacks me or a family member for no reason, I'm killing it and taking my chances in court.
 

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Not only are police dogs that viciously attack people not put down; there are heavy fines and imprisonment for five to ten years potentially for fighting back against one and even injuring it let alone killing it.

Let that sink in. In the eyes of the police state, you - the deemed "criminal" which can range from a drug trafficker to just a man minding his own business that doesn't agree with some crazy degenerate bullshit like state sponsored genital mutilation or some shit - has less rights than a police dog in that moment. You are expected to submit and allow the dog to rip you apart; and if you fight back and injure or kill the dog you get heavily fined and five to ten years in prison.

The police are just the enforcers of the state and elite interests. Always have been. And just like the military, over ninety percent of them will just follow orders and "just do their job" no matter what the orders are.
The military following orders stuff really has no precident.
Very few if any service members will agree to shooting Americans.

As for tje dog stuff, the dog is a police officer. That is why you sre treated worse.
If a police dog attacks me or a family member for no reason, I'm killing it and taking my chances in court.
Better make sure what ever the reason they went after you in the first place to get the dog to go after you is 100 percent wrong.

Though iirc the troopers in that one state where the local PD handler let the dog go after the troopers and deputies told him nit to was nit liked by the ones around him as they constantly got onto him.
 

colorles

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The military following orders stuff really has no precident.
Very few if any service members will agree to shooting Americans.


As for tje dog stuff, the dog is a police officer. That is why you sre treated worse.

Better make sure what ever the reason they went after you in the first place to get the dog to go after you is 100 percent wrong.

Though iirc the troopers in that one state where the local PD handler let the dog go after the troopers and deputies told him nit to was nit liked by the ones around him as they constantly got onto him.

To the bolded: I disagree. very strongly in fact.
 

King Arts

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Yes, I agree. But the issue here is the cops, not the dogs. If something like this happens, cops should be arrested and charged. A dog that was told to sic, and sicced, did nothing wrong. It's not supposed to know about human rights, the handler is.
If an animal hurts a human for ANY reason and it’s not justified self defense OR a valid LEGAL order the animal should be put down.
 

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J. Edgar Hoover was nearly as much of a thug as any of the men he tracked down. He was always willing to break the law and commit unconstitutional acts so long as it made him and his personal mafia (the FBI) look good/increased their power.

When an institution starts from such a low point it isn't surprising when it fails to improve.
Let's not forget about the FBI spying on civil rights activists, professional sports athletes, entertainers, musicians, etc.,
 

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