Pet Peeves in Fanfiction

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
Personally, I find it more annoying when an author can't be bothered to describe what their characters look like at all. True, when it comes to fanfiction, I could just do a google image search; but that's lazy writing which implies that their appearance never changes, and more importantly, it doesn't help me when they start introducing characters who don't exist in the original source material.

I’m more annoyed when they say for us to actually look up an actor or series, in-text
 

Arlos

Sad Monarchist
Pet Peeve of the Day: Main characters that never succeed or get clean wins.

While characters always having things go their way and getting lucky is crap, just as bad are the stories where the main characters never really get things to go their way.

Every arc must have something go wrong, every plan must fail, every fight must be balanced, every baddie will always escape, etc.

For sheer novelty value if nothing else, have a plan just work, have your main character actually live up to their abilities and just casually crush opponents that they far outclass, have baddies just get their heads lopped off occasionally.

What brought this on was a fic where a combat focused Jedi main character with explicit and exceptional training in enhancing her physical abilities always has problems against non force users. I mean bloody fucking hell, your protag is a precognitive trained for combat since essentially birth, strength explicitly on par with/superior to that of a Wookie, and superhuman speed & reaction times. In any kind of melee combat, whether she is armed or not, she should be able to essentially walk through a fight against a non force user with casual ease; stronger, faster, better trained, precognitive, and with literal plot shields. But no, every fight must take effort and she must always get injured.

There is a reason that the Jedi can take on armies while wearing bathrobes without so much as a scratch.
I would even extend that(And overlap a bit), and add another Pet Peeve on top of it; Making super humans character merely badass normal.(if even that)
it seems to me there is a propensity in fanfic to make Character that should be incredibly strong/Skilled merely above average.(Perhaps it‘s hard to write?)
In particular, I am thinking about just about every fanfic involving Spartan....
 

Lord Sovereign

The resident Britbong
In fairness, Star Wars has been all over the place of what Jedi can do. Contrast the two Clone Wars series, and just imagine 2003 Mace Windu in the position of Dooku or Obi Wan with the pirates.

Not to mention if we went off some other ideas of what force users can do, in the situation with the pirates you would hear ten necks snap in unison and Dooku chuckling under his breath. In my view, Force Users should be OP as fuck. They are superhuman space wizards with laser swords and precognition, of course they should kick copious amounts of arse.
 

Emperor Tippy

Merchant of Death
Super Moderator
Staff Member
Founder
Pet Peeve of the Day:
The use of the pistol as the primary weapon.

It never fails; in every movie, in every TV show, the main character will always go for the pistol.

The only use for a pistol in actual combat is to get a rifle. So no you fucking idiots, you don't trade your SMG, your carbine, or your rifle for a dinky little glock.
 

Knowledgeispower

Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
Pet Peeve of the Day:
The use of the pistol as the primary weapon.

It never fails; in every movie, in every TV show, the main character will always go for the pistol.

The only use for a pistol in actual combat is to get a rifle. So no you fucking idiots, you don't trade your SMG, your carbine, or your rifle for a dinky little glock.
It really only makes sense in stuff that involves the average cop
 

Emperor Tippy

Merchant of Death
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Pet Peeve of the Day: Nominally intelligent characters who are pants on head retarded.

This is especially bad in Gamer fics where the character gets an actual "Int" and "Wis" score, inevitably gets it power leveled a point orders of magnitude beyond an "average" person or his starting point, and yet persists in being a flaming idiot every single chance they get.

That being said, it is still present in a great many other stories. Harry Potter SI's are another bad one. If you know about the Room of Requirement then "WHY ARE YOU GOING TO THE FUCKING LIBRARY YOU IMBECILE?"; you literally have a room that will provide whatever it is you want and yet you are going to search the library for something? Again, you literally have a full on holodeck that will reshape itself to serve your needs so why in the world are you training, studying, or not using it literally every second that you can?

Then there is every single story where everyone gets screwed over because not one of these nominally intelligence individuals have any self control, patience, or scientific rigor.

And plans? Much less contingency plans, safehouses, and backups? Nope, those must be verboten.
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
Pet Peeve of the Day: Nominally intelligent characters who are pants on head retarded.

This is especially bad in Gamer fics where the character gets an actual "Int" and "Wis" score, inevitably gets it power leveled a point orders of magnitude beyond an "average" person or his starting point, and yet persists in being a flaming idiot every single chance they get.

That being said, it is still present in a great many other stories. Harry Potter SI's are another bad one. If you know about the Room of Requirement then "WHY ARE YOU GOING TO THE FUCKING LIBRARY YOU IMBECILE?"; you literally have a room that will provide whatever it is you want and yet you are going to search the library for something? Again, you literally have a full on holodeck that will reshape itself to serve your needs so why in the world are you training, studying, or not using it literally every second that you can?

Then there is every single story where everyone gets screwed over because not one of these nominally intelligence individuals have any self control, patience, or scientific rigor.

And plans? Much less contingency plans, safehouses, and backups? Nope, those must be verboten.

They're only as "smart" as their author is and they're only as "smart" as their authors say they are, regardless of truth to contrary

Remember, these sorts of dudes are edge lords, who talk about "using their heads" and "grit" and "not needing plot armour" or even superpowers

But really, I doubt they even know how to do simple solutions
 

Gaouw

Active member
So, in my eternal trawl across the internet, I've found many SI fics in many fandoms. They often goes to great length to show the mechanics of their "survival" after death, and how they managed to be born again as a baby.

One of my pet peeves is that somehow the SIs oftentimes decides that breastfeeding is for scrubs and that s/he will not partake.

I always find this mindboggling. Since:

a. Refusing to breastfeed make you noteworthy, meaning if you wanna stay under the radar (since you're, well, a baby), this shit is just not wise.

b. Breastfeeding is actually a way for mother and son to actually bond. Thus refusing to do so is spiting your new mother due to nothing. Just meaninless spite.

c. Your body actually need that shit. A mother's milk is custom built to fulfill the baby's nutritional need. So unless the mother is highly wanting in nutritional intake, her milk is the best feed for your body. Unless the mother's regularly ingesting mercury or something. In that case, refusing to breastfeed is just survival strategy.

d. You had a chance to suckle on a dream. Why are you avoiding it?

e. Many argue that it's not dignified. You're a fucking baby. What use is dignity? And it's not like anyone expect you to be dignified as a baby.

In conclusion, SIs that refuses to breastfeed as a baby is just an edgy elitist nincompoop that think with his/her non-existent brain cell.
 

Bear Ribs

Well-known member
Honestly generally I ditch any story that spends time on the baby section of such a reincarnation.

If there's anywhere, ever, that's worthy of a timeskip it's when the MC is incapable of anything except eating, sleeping, and pooping. Spend a paragraph on "And I grew up and learned to walk" and move on to when something can actually happen.
 

Shipmaster Sane

You have been weighed
Honestly generally I ditch any story that spends time on the baby section of such a reincarnation.

If there's anywhere, ever, that's worthy of a timeskip it's when the MC is incapable of anything except eating, sleeping, and pooping. Spend a paragraph on "And I grew up and learned to walk" and move on to when something can actually happen.
So, in my eternal trawl across the internet, I've found many SI fics in many fandoms. They often goes to great length to show the mechanics of their "survival" after death, and how they managed to be born again as a baby.
One of my pet peeves is that somehow the SIs oftentimes decides that breastfeeding is for scrubs and that s/he will not partake.
I always find this mindboggling. Since:
a. Refusing to breastfeed make you noteworthy, meaning if you wanna stay under the radar (since you're, well, a baby), this shit is just not wise.
b. Breastfeeding is actually a way for mother and son to actually bond. Thus refusing to do so is spiting your new mother due to nothing. Just meaninless spite.
c. Your body actually need that shit. A mother's milk is custom built to fulfill the baby's nutritional need. So unless the mother is highly wanting in nutritional intake, her milk is the best feed for your body. Unless the mother's regularly ingesting mercury or something. In that case, refusing to breastfeed is just survival strategy.
d. You had a chance to suckle on a dream. Why are you avoiding it?
e. Many argue that it's not dignified. You're a fucking baby. What use is dignity? And it's not like anyone expect you to be dignified as a baby.
In conclusion, SIs that refuses to breastfeed as a baby is just an edgy elitist nincompoop that think with his/her non-existent brain cell.
Hold the fuck on, I refuse to believe that there exist enough retarded people on the planet with internet access to even make "SI Baby scene" a common occurrence, let alone enough for there to be recognizable trends within it.


There cannot be a meaningful plurality of these fics.
 

gral

Well-known member
It's just so specific in it's autism, I could understand if it was some kind of wierd fetish but not just a large number of lunatics all independently coming to the conclusion that they should write about being a baby with adult intelligence in an otherwise unrelated story about being an adult.
I think it's, in part, imitation. Someone got the idea on his head and wrote it, and that someone was one of the first ones to write on someone being SI'd into a baby. Soon, people who wanted to write this sort of story started treating it as an item in their list of things to do in their stories.
 

Bear Ribs

Well-known member
It's just so specific in it's autism, I could understand if it was some kind of wierd fetish but not just a large number of lunatics all independently coming to the conclusion that they should write about being a baby with adult intelligence in an otherwise unrelated story about being an adult.
I've dropped at least a dozen different fics within the first few pages for having extended SI Baby sections.

A majority, now that I think about it, were Naruto SIs. I blame Dreaming of Sunshine which popularized Naruto SIs as being good, and also had the entire (mercifully short) first chapter be about the character having adult intelligence in a baby's body. A metric nopeload of fics tried to imitate Dreaming of Sunshine but did so worse and the SI baby trend was born. As @gral said, then imitators went about imitating and soon the extended baby scene was a part of terrible SIs everywhere.

It seems to be fairly common in Isekai stories/manga where the character is reborn instead of being transported bodily to another world, as well. This tends to lead to horrifically creepy early chapters where the isekai is perving on boobs while in the body of a toddler, which has the side effect of causing Bear Ribs to drop that story immediately.
 

Gaouw

Active member
It seems to be fairly common in Isekai stories/manga where the character is reborn instead of being transported bodily to another world, as well. This tends to lead to horrifically creepy early chapters where the isekai is perving on boobs while in the body of a toddler, which has the side effect of causing Bear Ribs to drop that story immediately.
Well, actually...

The baby perving on boobs first came out (or at least, first popularized by) Mushoku Tensei, a japanese light novel in which MC, a NEET+HIKKI combo died after saving a bunch of kids from Truck-kun.

He then got reincarnated in a new world yadda yadda. One of the first popular isekai troper.

Now, since it was the first/trendsetter, the idea itself is gold.

However, the subsequent deluge of fics with such template make it kinda stale.

And then somehow, there is this trend to be "dignified" as a Baby SI.

Ugh.
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
Well, actually...

The baby perving on boobs first came out (or at least, first popularized by) Mushoku Tensei, a japanese light novel in which MC, a NEET+HIKKI combo died after saving a bunch of kids from Truck-kun.

He then got reincarnated in a new world yadda yadda. One of the first popular isekai troper.

Now, since it was the first/trendsetter, the idea itself is gold.

However, the subsequent deluge of fics with such template make it kinda stale.

And then somehow, there is this trend to be "dignified" as a Baby SI.

Ugh.

Read the first maybe three volumes of Mushoku Tensei

Honestly, all those volumes made me feel like the MC was a sort of childlike sociopath with the way thoughts are written

Lots of Isekai LN these days when translated to english sound like the narrator’s a sociopathic child just beginning to learn english and going “ooh ah” or something

Barely much emotion or feel of said emotion when its in that POV

Nevermind how it’s also creepy in that I’m pretty sure his parents didn’t realize a dude older than them was their son and probably never really developed that sort of “they’re my dad and mom” referring growing up
 

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