Africa Oldest Wood Dwelling Built by Human's Found in Zambia, Over 476,000 Years Old.

Rocinante

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I'm not surprised to find out we've been wrong about our history this whole time.

I believe people like Graham Hitchcock are at the very least, on to something. Maybe not 100% correct, but I think humans were much more advanced, much earlier than previous believed.
 

Lord Sovereign

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I'm not surprised to find out we've been wrong about our history this whole time.

I believe people like Graham Hitchcock are at the very least, on to something. Maybe not 100% correct, but I think humans were much more advanced, much earlier than previous believed.
Hancock’s problem is his focus on “Atlantis.” Beyond that, the idea of complex societies and civilisations existing before the Sumerians isn’t completely out of the question. Indeed, I think it’s perfectly believable.
 

mandragon

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Hancock’s problem is his focus on “Atlantis.” Beyond that, the idea of complex societies and civilisations existing before the Sumerians isn’t completely out of the question. Indeed, I think it’s perfectly believable.
As far as current science can tell we're what 300k years old? We have had plenty of time for not just 1 older civilization that rose and fell but many. Imagine something like 6 separate civilizations rising and falling begging in say 55,000B.C. All with tech at the high stone age(Aztecs) to early iron age(Acehemenidads)sp,wouldn't that be wild as hell.
 
I'm not surprised to find out we've been wrong about our history this whole time.

I believe people like Graham Hitchcock are at the very least, on to something. Maybe not 100% correct, but I think humans were much more advanced, much earlier than previous believed.

sadly a lot of our ideas of early humans come from the Hollywood caveman IE "Unga bunga me dumb prehistoric man, hit you with big stick. I think we will find that such a depiction is very insulting to our ancient ancestors.
 
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sadly a lot of our ideas of early humans come from the Hollywood caveman IE "Unga bunga me dumb prehistoric man, hit you with big stick. I think we will find that such a depiction is very insulting to our ancient ancestors.

Of course Hollywood denigrates our ancestors. They have to-their leftists and their whole arc of history view point is built on the idea that we’re so much smarter then our ancestors. Fools.
 

Rocinante

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Hancock’s problem is his focus on “Atlantis.” Beyond that, the idea of complex societies and civilisations existing before the Sumerians isn’t completely out of the question. Indeed, I think it’s perfectly believable.
I don't even think the idea of an Atlantis type of society existing is all that unrealistic.

We know sea levels used to be lower, and there are areas that are now ocean that were probably land at some point.

I don't think it's crazy that at some point, a civilization more advanced than most other civilizations at the time existed, and that flooding from the younger dryas period pretty much destroyed it.

Could it be the Atlantis from legends? Maybe, maybe not. But a society collapsing due to massive flooding does not seem that unrealistic.
 

DarthOne

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I don't even think the idea of an Atlantis type of society existing is all that unrealistic.

We know sea levels used to be lower, and there are areas that are now ocean that were probably land at some point.

I don't think it's crazy that at some point, a civilization more advanced than most other civilizations at the time existed, and that flooding from the younger dryas period pretty much destroyed it.

Could it be the Atlantis from legends? Maybe, maybe not. But a society collapsing due to massive flooding does not seem that unrealistic.
I mean we know/suspect stuff like that happened in Doggerland and in the Black Sea.


 

Bacle

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Minoans iirc in Greece. Wiped off the map but still find thier artifacts.
Possibility that they are what we consider atlantis
Except the first readings of the Atlantis myth from the Egyptians to Plato's ancestor put Atlantis beyond the Pillars of Hercules, AKA the Straights of Gibraltar. Most likely location that fits the original story is the sunken Azores plateau, given the shallow water fossils they found in deep water and the known subsidence of that area due to undersea/shoreline landslides.

The Minoans are a separate thing, likely the forebearers of the Phoenicians/Philistines/maybe Troy.
 

Lord Sovereign

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Bronze is made with a mixture of tin and copper two things that are rarely colocated. You can make tools and weapons out of copper so its entirely likely we had a copper age before a bronze one.
I could believe that. And a society with Copper Age technology would be all but annihilated by something like Younger Dryas. It explains why we wouldn’t see much evidence of mining or industry.
 

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The native american civilizations where late neolithic. The types of empires built by the Mayans, Atecs and such? Europe had the same type of civilizations prior to the Bronze age.
 
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Lord Sovereign

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The native american civilizations where late neolithic. The types of empires built by the Mayans, Atecs and such? Europe had the same type of civilizations prior to the Bronze age.
No we didn’t. Yes we had societies that used stone tools and they erected great monuments in their own way, but that is not nearly on the same page as the Olmecs or anyone who came after them. These guys were doing near Egyptian levels of construction without bronze tools.

Tenochtitlan put most cities of the world at its time to shame, let alone in comparison to anything from Europe’s Neolithic era.

Seriously, I’ve been to Stone Henge and Chichen Itza. They do not compare at all.
 
Well this is awesome

If the periodic rise and fall of humanity/younger dryas theory is correct this has interesting implications. The history nerd in me is absolutely fascinated by this

However
I will wait for more research results. IMO nothing to get excitied about. There have been lots of later disaproved discoveries/theories/hoaxes/scams (looking at you, AGW and COVID19).
More data is required
 

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