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Agent23

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The idea isn't that Micro$oft hasn't done crooked stuff - we all know they have.
The point is that there are other companies that are worse. Much worse.
That is also due to the structure of the industries.

For Microsoft no matter how much it hates it's users, the people that cough money up for Azure subscriptions and Windows licenses and office, and their other crappy products are still customers.

For Meta and Google, we are not customers, we ARE the product they sell to their real customers.
 

S'task

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That is also due to the structure of the industries.

For Microsoft no matter how much it hates it's users, the people that cough money up for Azure subscriptions and Windows licenses and office, and their other crappy products are still customers.

For Meta and Google, we are not customers, we ARE the product they sell to their real customers.
Yup, and this has been my core theory as to why MS has been less evil than Meta and Google. That core relationship not only makes even individuals inherently more valuable to MS than we are to Google and Meta, it ALSO means that there are more legal protections and expectations placed upon MS, with actual customers having more recourses legally if MS screws them than "users" of Meta and Google.
 

Agent23

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Sure. I wasn't saying anything about Microsoft.
They are still a turd company that would like nothing more than to limit you to their own app store, like google does.
Make your PC be always online and turn your OS into a service.

And make it harder and harder for you to dual-boot.

It they also have enterprise costume rs that are gonna go, "yeah, no."
And years of the "bad practice" of downloading and I stslli g shit oln their own had left the users with some specific exceptions.

Repos( think of them as a boomer app store you use via cli)are a good thing, but there is no way I am using only M$'s.

Also, for you poor, misbegotten windows using sods out there, I'd recommend you try out

Chocolatey - The package manager for Windows
 

DarthOne

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They are still a turd company that would like nothing more than to limit you to their own app store, like google does.
Make your PC be always online and turn your OS into a service.

And make it harder and harder for you to dual-boot.

It they also have enterprise costume rs that are gonna go, "yeah, no."
And years of the "bad practice" of downloading and I stslli g shit oln their own had left the users with some specific exceptions.

Repos( think of them as a boomer app store you use via cli)are a good thing, but there is no way I am using only M$'s.

Also, for you poor, misbegotten windows using sods out there, I'd recommend you try out

Chocolatey - The package manager for Windows
What does this Chocolatey do?
 

Abhorsen

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I have no idea what that is.
I also have no idea what that is.
It's a command used in your command line interface that allows for downloading and installing stuff, usually for use from the command line.

For example, "apt install python" would download and install python on your linux machine.

Similarly, on a Windows machine, instead you'd do "choco install python".

Then, on either machine, you could then type "python somefile.py" which would run somefile.py using the python library you installed.


To use a videogame analogy, its a very bare bones basic mod installer and loader for a game, but the game is your command line.
 

DarthOne

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It's a command used in your command line interface that allows for downloading and installing stuff, usually for use from the command line.

For example, "apt install python" would download and install python on your linux machine.

Similarly, on a Windows machine, instead you'd do "choco install python".

Then, on either machine, you could then type "python somefile.py" which would run somefile.py using the python library you installed.


To use a videogame analogy, its a very bare bones basic mod installer and loader for a game, but the game is your command line.
Thank you for explaining
 

mrttao

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I have no idea what that is.
I also have no idea what that is.
Ancient, very robust, command line app store for linux.
It's a command used in your command line interface that allows for downloading and installing stuff, usually for use from the command line.

For example, "apt install python" would download and install python on your linux machine.

Similarly, on a Windows machine, instead you'd do "choco install python".

Then, on either machine, you could then type "python somefile.py" which would run somefile.py using the python library you installed.


To use a videogame analogy, its a very bare bones basic mod installer and loader for a game, but the game is your command line.
Worth noting that there are guis that sit on top of it.
 

Agent23

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It's a command used in your command line interface that allows for downloading and installing stuff, usually for use from the command line.

For example, "apt install python" would download and install python on your linux machine.

Similarly, on a Windows machine, instead you'd do "choco install python".

Then, on either machine, you could then type "python somefile.py" which would run somefile.py using the python library you installed.


To use a videogame analogy, its a very bare bones basic mod installer and loader for a game, but the game is your command line.
You forgot the dependencies and the repo. ;)

I have no idea what that is.


apt, and it's equivalents like dnf/yum are high level package managers, the packages are your programs and their dependencies.

Package managers in Linux also track dependencies and try to help you not totally mess up your system because you accidentally install a newer version of glibc.

For example, on Windows lots of applications require you install VC redistributables to work properly, choco should install them.Oh, and also some scripts for installation and uninstallation, too. And the location where it sticks the executables is usually added to your PATH so you can run shit from the console by typing the name.

And the other major bonus is that the download is done only from a secure package repository maintained by the distro maintainers, third party repos can be added but you will have to trust their GPG (cryptographic) keys, too.
 

mrttao

Well-known member
I simplified it up to make it easier. Also cut out the sudo, etc.
I had the feeling you omitted it on purpose.
I am also shocked there are people here who never tried linux.

MS is part of the enemy. Not as evil as google, but still evil. And they have backdoors for the CIA to access your computer
 

Agent23

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I had the feeling you omitted it on purpose.
I am also shocked there are people here who never tried linux.

MS is part of the enemy. Not as evil as google, but still evil. And they have backdoors for the CIA to access your computer
The repos IMHO are a decent selling point.
Also, explaining why we have dpkg and rpm and why we have apt and yum on top of them will take a while a s might scare potential customers. :sneaky:
 

Husky_Khan

The Dog Whistler... I mean Whisperer.
Founder
Twitter/X planning on opening a new "Trust and Safety" office in Austin, Texas.


Trust and Safety AFAIK is just another term for community moderators or whatever but this'll focus on things like child sexual exploitation among other things supposedly.
 

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