Monsterverse vs Pacific Rim

[Zachowon]

As it says on the tin.
The Kaiju from Pacific Rim end up in Monsterverse. What happens?

 

[Scooby Doo]

A Kaiju enters the Volcano and because there's no Global rapid response force it blows up killing everyone on the surface.

 

[Zachowon]

A Kaiju enters the Volcano and because there's no Global rapid response force it blows up killing everyone on the surface.

Alright let me fix the OP

Edit: nah, my argument
A
What is stopping Godzilla from stopping the Kaiju at the Volcano?
B
What is stopping rodan
C
What is stopping the humans who can build a fucking mechgodzilla from doing it again?

 

[Scooby Doo]

Alright let me fix the OP

Edit: nah, my argument
A
What is stopping Godzilla from stopping the Kaiju at the Volcano?

Godzilla can only be at one place at a time

B
What is stopping rodan

Rodan is in Mexico, the Kaiju focused on California/Japan/China and Australia.

C
What is stopping the humans who can build a fucking mechgodzilla from doing it again?

The fact it's going to take them like four years to build one mech that can only be at one place at a time and is also too fucking slow and heavy to be deployed like anywhere in a reasonable timeframe.


Edit: Also EMP or super Corrosive Acid takes down Mecha Godzilla


Also no one knows about the Volcano cheese and it was only blind luck that Humanity in Pacific Rim found out.

 

[Zachowon]

And they headed towards Fuji and not any minor small Volcano where there would be less land because?

 

[Scooby Doo]

And they headed towards Fuji and not any minor small Volcano where there would be less land because?

Because of the rare Earth minerals needed to cause the chain reaction needed.

Of course Fuji isn't the only one but the nearest for the Breach they opened in Uprising.


So Precursors God STOMP Monster verse

 

[Zachowon]

Because of the rare Earth minerals needed to cause the chain reaction needed.

Of course Fuji isn't the only one but the nearest for the Breach they opened in Uprising.


So Precursors God STOMP Monster verse

....yeah and why didn't they try to do the volcanos again?

 

[Battlegrinder]

A Kaiju enters the Volcano and because there's no Global rapid response force it blows up killing everyone on the surface.

So why didn't they do with the first Kaiju attack that took days for a conventional military to stop, or the second or the third?

Aside from the obvious answer of "uprising hadn't been crapped out to ruin the franchise yet", of course.

 

[Scooby Doo]

....yeah and why didn't they try to do the volcanos again?

So why didn't they do with the first Kaiju attack that took days for a conventional military to stop, or the second or the third?

Aside from the obvious answer of "uprising hadn't been crapped out to ruin the franchise yet", of course.

There's no official reason.

But the most likely reason was because they tried to win conventionally then just changed their tactics after the Extermination wave failed.

Edit: Keep in my that doesn't dismiss the point that they still do it here so irrelevant to bring up.🤷

 

[Battlegrinder]

There's no official reason.

But the most likely reason was because they tried to win conventionally then just changed their tactics after the Extermination wave failed.

Edit: Keep in my that doesn't dismiss the point that they still do it here so irrelevant to bring up.🤷

The problem with using Uprising to establish that they have a magic instant win power, and then that that they didn't use at first because they wanted to win conventionally is that uprising itself established that a conventional victory was obviously impossible from the get-go.

Pacific Rim is not a franchise predicated on making sense, even from the first movie where they claim it took multiple nukes to drop a category 1 kauji when they first emerged....and then they casually nuke a Cat 5 at the end of the movie.

 

[Scooby Doo]

The problem with using Uprising to establish that they have a magic instant win power, and then that that they didn't use at first because they wanted to win conventionally is that uprising itself established that a conventional victory was obviously impossible from the get-go.

It really wasn't, the first film indicates that they were down to their last Jaegars and the Precursors were on the Verge of stabilizing the rift so they could deploy more Kaiju's.

Eventually humanity would be wiped out by hordes of Kaiju or unleash enough nukes that humanity dies of radiation poisoning.

Pacific Rim is not a franchise predicated on making sense, even from the first movie where they claim it took multiple nukes to drop a category 1 kauji when they first emerged....and then they casually nuke a Cat 5 at the end of the movie.

Trespasser isn't a Category I Kaiju the stats have him between II & III.

The nuke that kills the Category IV was a One Megaton Bomb but it didn't kill Slattern (Category V), all this means is that the yields for previous Kaiju were smaller than what Eureka had likely because of collateral.

 

[Zachowon]

AFAIK nukes arnt stronger underwater.

 

[Scooby Doo]

AFAIK nukes arnt stronger underwater.

Literally no one asked or said 😂

Let's not forget tho that Eureka's energy core exploded too which we know for Mark III models can blow up like a nuke anyway so it scales to Megatons and above.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Literally no one asked or said 😂

Let's not forget tho that Eureka's energy core exploded too which we know for Mark III models can blow up like a nuke anyway so it scales to Megatons and above.

Do we see any Mark III's exploding? None of the robots in the first film explode when they are pierced and torn apart. Is that from a comic or other EU material?

As it says on the tin.
The Kaiju from Pacific Rim end up in Monsterverse. What happens?

What is 'the kaiju' specifically? All of the kaiju which enter earth in the film or literally 'all of the kaiju', because the aliens had a production line which seems to be several hundred kaiju (And more coming) strong.

I'm sure Godzilla can handle any Category 4 and below in a straight up fight but Slattern might be a problem, and if the Kaijus keep getting bigger Godzilla is going to have to deal with dozens of Slattern+ sized monstrosities.

Final-Wars Godzilla might be able to take it, but not monsterverse Godzilla.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Do we see any Mark III's exploding? None of the robots in the first film explode when they are pierced and torn apart. Is that from a comic or other EU material?

Yeh we see the Atlas Destroyer a Mark III commissioned in 2017 blow up its power source in a self destruct.

Eureka's power source should have drastically increased the power of the Megaton Bomb.

I'd assume that the Eureka pilots would have purposely initiated a self destruct or equivalent in addition to the Megaton bomb because irc the visuals show the sea shockwave being way bigger than possible with a one megaton bomb.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Yeh we see the Atlas Destroyer a Mark III commissioned in 2017 blow up its power source in a self destruct.

Eureka's power source should have drastically increased the power of the Megaton Bomb.

I'd assume that the Eureka pilots would have purposely initiated a self destruct or equivalent in addition to the Megaton bomb because irc the visuals show the sea shockwave being way bigger than possible with a one megaton bomb.

Oh there's some cartoon of the franchise now? I had no idea, I thought the second movie killed the franchise lmao.
But it seems like an outlier, none of the other mechs have self destructs like that, and only Gypsy is nuclear (oh and Cherno). The others are...Wibbly wobbly timey wimey reactor/batteries.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Oh there's some cartoon of the franchise now? I had no idea, I thought the second movie killed the franchise lmao.
But it seems like an outlier, none of the other mechs have self destructs like that, and only Gypsy is nuclear (oh and Cherno). The others are...Wibbly wobbly timey wimey reactor/batteries.

It's not an outlier it's actually a plot point for the Pacific Rim Black story. Altho I do want to mention while it is an old model it does use energy cells that take place several years after Uprising and vaporizes a Category VI Kaiju.

So the point is Eurekas explosion gets a buff but not anything ridiculous since we know it helps with explosions just not by how much.

 

[Battlegrinder]

It really wasn't, the first film indicates that they were down to their last Jaegars and the Precursors were on the Verge of stabilizing the rift so they could deploy more Kaiju's.

Eventually humanity would be wiped out by hordes of Kaiju or unleash enough nukes that humanity dies of radiation poisoning.

Again, Uprising explicitly mocks that idea, saying that it was obvious just stomping on a few costal cities wouldn't be enough to destroy humanity, they must have been to something else during first incursion.

It sounds like you're arguing that the Volcano Plan was something the baddies switched to after the invasion in the first movie failed. Again, Uprising disagrees, and says that jumping into a volcano was thier plan the first time 'round as well.

Suggestion: maybe stop trying to use uprising, because the fact it offers you a shiny "I win" button is more than counterbalanced by the fact it's badly written trash that doesn't make sense.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

It's not an outlier it's actually a plot point for the Pacific Rim Black story. Altho I do want to mention while it is an old model it does use energy cells that take place several years after Uprising and vaporizes a Category VI Kaiju.

So the point is Eurekas explosion gets a buff but not anything ridiculous since we know it helps with explosions just not by how much.

Its not too outlandish that Slattern tanked the nuke while this "Category 6" (the categories don't even go past 5 in the films lmao) was vaporized.
Nukes are weaker underwater, and the actual armor plated body of Striker took some of the blast for Slattern.
If that robot takes place after Uprising, it's power source might be well beyond 1 megaton yield, although I question the safety of having potential megaton bombs laying around the Jaeger hangars lmao. The ideal power source is one which doesn't go boom when it's poked.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Again, Uprising explicitly mocks that idea, saying that it was obvious just stomping on a few costal cities wouldn't be enough to destroy humanity, they must have been to something else during first incursion.

Uh no it doesn't.

Do you have a exact quote that says that?

It sounds like you're arguing that the Volcano Plan was something the baddies switched to after the invasion in the first movie failed. Again, Uprising disagrees, and says that jumping into a volcano was thier plan the first time 'round as well.

Source?

Suggestion: maybe stop trying to use uprising, because the fact it offers you a shiny "I win" button is more than counterbalanced by the fact it's badly written trash that doesn't make sense.

That's not how debates work lol. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't any less canon, it happened it's canon.

They have a shiny I win button, they will also eventually resort to using it and there's nothing Monster verse can do about it unless they develop precognition or telepathy.