MGTOW Opinion

[Lanmandragon]

So if a man is screwed over by a woman’s actions it’s the mans fault for not picking the right woman flip the genders in your statement is it still something you would agree with? Woman can be lying manipulating people just like men but people can’t admit that women have just as much autonomy as men

Yes it is infact the person's fault if they made a bad choice. See this is the issue "mgtow" have just as much of a victim complex as feminists.

 

[hyperspacewizard]

Yes it is infact the person's fault if they made a bad choice. See this is the issue "mgtow" have just as much of a victim complex as feminists.

Here’s an example:
A woman really likes these guy and they hung out a couple of times and he seems cool so they go out on a date she decides to go for it and kisses him the next day the police show up at her door with sexual assault charges because the man actually didn’t like her that way and said she made him uncomfortable and forced herself on him.
Is the man or woman the victim you decide

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Here’s an example:
A woman really likes these guy and they hung out a couple of times and he seems cool so they go out on a date she decides to go for it and kisses him the next day the police show up at her door with sexual assault charges because the man actually didn’t like her that way and said she made him uncomfortable and forced herself on him.
Is the man or woman the victim you decide

Why didn’t the guy say anything earlier or tell her how much that felt horrible or disgusting?

 

[hyperspacewizard]

Why didn’t the guy say anything earlier or tell her how much that felt horrible or disgusting?

No because he was scared of her reaction he didn’t feel safe. Etc etc

 

[Fleiur]

Here’s an example:
A woman really likes these guy and they hung out a couple of times and he seems cool so they go out on a date she decides to go for it and kisses him the next day the police show up at her door with sexual assault charges because the man actually didn’t like her that way and said she made him uncomfortable and forced herself on him.
Is the man or woman the victim you decide

Why people nowadays treat making love as like a normal/casual thing to do? Doing it to the person that they are not married to.

 

[Lanmandragon]

Here’s an example:
A woman really likes these guy and they hung out a couple of times and he seems cool so they go out on a date she decides to go for it and kisses him the next day the police show up at her door with sexual assault charges because the man actually didn’t like her that way and said she made him uncomfortable and forced herself on him.
Is the man or woman the victim you decide

No one is the answer. What happenedis she took a risk and it didn't pay off. Life's all about taking risks son.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

No one is the answer. What happenedis she took a risk and it didn't pay off. Life's all about taking risks son.

Ain’t that a bitch, even when its most pragmatic to avoid being an idiot, there’s still a big chance you’d be surrounded by frankly dangerous idioys

 

[hyperspacewizard]

No one is the answer. What happenedis she took a risk and it didn't pay off. Life's all about taking risks son.

Yeah but a lot of people like not going to court for stupid shit so They avoid women but somehow that’s wrong. Why is interacting with women such a risk in our society and why are people just accepting of it why do women get a pass are they not equal to men do they not have to have the same level of morality and common decency as men should women not be held to the same standards as men. Will people admit that woman are a protected class now with a bunch of societal power a kin to the aristocracy of old.

 

[Lanmandragon]

Ain’t that a bitch, even when its most pragmatic to avoid being an idiot, there’s still a big chance you’d be surrounded by frankly dangerous idioys

Most people are idiots

Yeah but a lot of people like not going to court for stupid shit so They avoid women but somehow that’s wrong. Why is interacting with women such a risk in our society and why are people just accepting of it why do women get a pass are they not equal to men do they not have to have the same level of morality and common decency as men should women not be held to the same standards as men. Will people admit that woman are a protected class now with a bunch of societal power a kin to the aristocracy of old.

Your barking up the wrong tree. I in no way think women should be held to the standard of men. We have a fudementally opposed worldview.

 

[hyperspacewizard]

Most people are idiots

Your barking up the wrong tree. I in no way think women should be held to the standard of men. We have a fudementally opposed worldview.

Ah so because they can’t be held to the same standards should they have the same rights then? That’s where your argument takes you.
We have to be equal under the law and we aren’t and that’s the main problem most mgtow have men are second class citizens socially and by law in a lot of cases how is that just and fair why should you contribute to a society that berates you at every turn.

 

[Whitestrake Pelinal]

Yes it is infact the person's fault if they made a bad choice. See this is the issue "mgtow" have just as much of a victim complex as feminists.

That is bullshit. People change, and the current environment allows for females to become sadistic and abusive with the expectation that they will be supported by their nations legal-judicial prison complex and a horde of Momma's Boys In Blue, armed and ready to protect mummy by beating or killing the bad man.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

That is bullshit. People change, and the current environment allows for females to become sadistic and abusive with the expectation that they will be supported by their nations legal-judicial prison complex and a horde of Momma's Boys In Blue, armed and ready to protect mummy by beating or killing the bad man.

I await the day a similar speech is made and the wahmen wonder where have all the good men gone.....off to a place with the remaining women who are shat upon by the same wahmen who don’t protect them from actual bad men

 

[Lanmandragon]

Ah so because they can’t be held to the same standards should they have the same rights then? That’s where your argument takes you.
We have to be equal under the law and we aren’t and that’s the main problem most mgtow have men are second class citizens socially and by law in a lot of cases how is that just and fair why should you contribute to a society that berates you at every turn.

Because it's right and that's enough for me. Simple

That is bullshit. People change, and the current environment allows for females to become sadistic and abusive with the expectation that they will be supported by their nations legal-judicial prison complex and a horde of Momma's Boys In Blue, armed and ready to protect mummy by beating or killing the bad man.

Life's hard and then you die. I have neither the time nor patience to worry about irrelvancies. If a woman fucks me over then she does.

 

[hyperspacewizard]

Because it's right and that's enough for me. Simple

Life's hard and then you die. I have neither the time nor patience to worry about irrelvancies. If a woman fucks me over then she does.

Look your argument of not holding women to the same standards of men is the bigotry of low expectations and by saying that I’m not calling you names I describing a phenomenon. By saying that women aren’t held to the same standards as men your placing them into the same category as children which is how a lot of judges treat them we don’t let children vote or fight or drink because they can’t handle it and on the other hand we protect and limit punishment for bad behavior because we assume them to be lesser. That’s where that argument leads.

 

[Lanmandragon]

Look your argument of not holding women to the same standards of men is the bigotry of low expectations and by saying that I’m not calling you names I describing a phenomenon. By saying that women aren’t held to the same standards as men your placing them into the same category as children which is how a lot of judges treat them we don’t let children vote or fight or drink because they can’t handle it and on the other hand we protect and limit punishment for bad behavior because we assume them to be lesser. That’s where that argument leads.

I'm well aware of that. I'm also fine with it. Women's franchise ending wouldn't bother me at all. I just don't consider the issue important enough to push for. Frankly I'm of the opinion a woman should submit to her husband in all things. Which means that he necessity thier franchise is largely irrelevant. As they shouldvote the way he says anyway. Further if you honestly believe that you or any man really. Can fix the issues we're having with broads then your delusional. Women and only women can fix this. Simple

 

[hyperspacewizard]

I'm well aware of that. I'm also fine with it. Women's franchise ending wouldn't bother me at all. I just don't consider the issue important enough to push for. Frankly I'm of the opinion a woman should submit to her husband in all things. Which means that he necessity thier franchise is largely irrelevant. As they shouldvote the way he says anyway. Further if you honestly believe that you or any man really. Can fix the issues we're having with broads then your delusional. Women and only women can fix this. Simple

The problem as you say will fix itself when society collapses because women will never vote there rights away in fact women vote more often then men in general. The collapse is kinda what a subset of mgtow believe is coming soon so there’s some crossover with preppers.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

The problem as you say will fix itself when society collapses because women will never vote there rights away in fact women vote more often then men in general. The collapse is kinda what a subset of mgtow believe is coming soon so there’s some crossover with preppers.

In the long run, the problem will solve itself and we will be dead, but while we live, the problems will spread

We already have feminists or SJWs even here in the Philippines....just waiting for the right conditions to get active

 

[Lanmandragon]

The problem as you say will fix itself when society collapses because women will never vote there rights away in fact women vote more often then men in general. The collapse is kinda what a subset of mgtow believe is coming soon so there’s some crossover with preppers.

I'm sure something's coming if it does it does. If nothing else civilation collapsing will reset the male female interaction back to a more normal state.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I'm sure something's coming if it does it does. If nothing else civilation collapsing will reset the male female interaction back to a more normal state.

This “normal state” will involve lots of abusive, repressive muslim males obsessed with Sharia Law taking over

 

[Lanmandragon]

This “normal state” will involve lots of abusive, repressive muslim males obsessed with Sharia Law taking over

Here? Naw more likley Roman Catholic Hispanics. In Europe oh yeah they'll be the new caliphate. Hopefully I'm wrong and we can reverse course but I doubt. Men checking out and not having families just makes it more certain to happen.