Media/Journalism Cringe Megathread - Hot off the Presses

Isem said:
I'm not sure if he entirely counts here but there's not enough material to make a new thread about it and he's technically a contributor to the times and said they're on the case so without further ado, Paul Krugman ladies and gents:
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Archive link because he realized he'd done goofed and deleted the tweet: Attention Required!
The responses are hilarious.
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Instantly my mind went to this:
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And what the fuck does Q have to do with a claimed hack? Like any of the Boomers who follow that oddity would know anything about hacking.
 
PsihoKekec said:
No, the sprawling mass of overreaching regulation means that every well meaning law abiding citizen commits at least one offence per day and is only getting away because the state doesn't have sufficient surveilance and enforcement apparatus yet. The only ones who can really thrive in such system are those with enough money to have the lawyer armies on their retainer. It is why corporations thrive within the law enviroment that is supposed to limit them, but only suppresses small and medium companies instead.
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And Hollywood and other Fictional Media like to make it as if its unlimited freedom or a lack of regulation which causes problems or really empowers corporations
 
Hlaalu Agent said:
Why are most regulations bad? Isn't it mostly a case of improper or inappropriate application?
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1. Bad actors will try to use loopholes or outright ignore regulations anyways.
2. The more time spent trying to comply with regulations, the less time is available to make a good product or actually focus on safety.
3. The legal defense 'sure, bad stuff happened because of what I did, but I was complying with all regulations so it wasn't my fault!' is a very real thing.
4. Regulatory bureaucrats very easily become petty tyrants.
5. At this point, it is functionally impossible for private citizens to have not violated some regulation or another. If someone in the state gets pissed at us, all they have to do is look hard enough and they can find some charge to lay against us. When there are literally tens of thousands of pages of laws and regulations, there is simply no getting around this. Even specialized lawyers can't keep track of it all.

Most things that regulations cover, should simply be tried under regular criminal or civil law. 'Gross negligence' and 'Reckless endangerment' cover a lot of stuff.
 
additional thought. most regulations are easy to handle if you are a large business. you can either eat the fine or buy the $50,000 piece of equipment to bring yourself in line with the new regulation. if you don't have that plus all other requisite things good luck. and that is if it is only one thing.
 
LordsFire said:
1. Bad actors will try to use loopholes or outright ignore regulations anyways.
2. The more time spent trying to comply with regulations, the less time is available to make a good product or actually focus on safety.
3. The legal defense 'sure, bad stuff happened because of what I did, but I was complying with all regulations so it wasn't my fault!' is a very real thing.
4. Regulatory bureaucrats very easily become petty tyrants.
5. At this point, it is functionally impossible for private citizens to have not violated some regulation or another. If someone in the state gets pissed at us, all they have to do is look hard enough and they can find some charge to lay against us. When there are literally tens of thousands of pages of laws and regulations, there is simply no getting around this. Even specialized lawyers can't keep track of it all.

Most things that regulations cover, should simply be tried under regular criminal or civil law. 'Gross negligence' and 'Reckless endangerment' cover a lot of stuff.
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6. More fundamentally, non-legislators shouldn't have the ability to de facto make laws. Separation of powers is a thing for a reason.
 
LordsFire said:
2. The more time spent trying to comply with regulations, the less time is available to make a good product or actually focus on safety.
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it's worth noting that the worst domestic nuclear accident, Three Mile Island, wound up with a good chunk of blame laid square at the feet of the NRC because they'd over regulated for very specific problems and plants had taken "complying with the regulations" over "being safe" in part thanks to just how many regs there were. At least, such was the opinion of the President's Commision on the thing.
 
Moving a step away from recent events and to somewhat broader items...Folks might find the anecdote of journalistic 'principle' in the first section of this noteworthy, despite the somewhat advanced age of both the book its from and the story it relates. Retells an early-80s episode of a round-table discussion show that featured military personnel and a pair of journalists--Mike Wallace as a notable name there--and posed ethical questions to them. The journalistic answer was...Rather underwhelming and 'story above all' in a manner that is used to highlight an issue of the profession.

A YT video of a brief bit of the affair--it's regrettably cut-up by the partisan organization that published it (Newsbusters), but it's the only video a brief internet search brought up and enough to make clear to me that the story the book relates did actually occur (because I was quite ready and willing to doubt such because it's...kind of out-there in terms of believability. 'Simply a story' as a point of moral reasoning is...way, way too little on the topic):
 
Nice admission from primetime MSNBC host Lawrence O'Donnell about the main difference between CNN and MSNBC, mainly that the latter won't have anyone supporting Trump period and then the standard labeling of entire swaths of people. Perhaps ironically of course, the admission was made on Al Franken's podcast (I guess he's doing stuff, good for him).

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Lawrence O'Donnell slams CNN, says 'there will be no one defending' Trump on MSNBC

The MSNBC host said rival network CNN is helping spread Trump's "lies."
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More NBC hilarity, this time in regards to that violent gun rights rally back on Monday. :p

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NBC News' Ben Collins slammed for warning of 'white nationalist rally in Virginia'

Ahead of Monday's gun-rights rally in Virginia, NBC News reporter Ben Collins labeled the event a "white nationalist" gathering, even as he warned against spreading "made-up stuff" on Twitter -- prompting scores of critics to point out the apparent irony, and to condemn his network for...
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