Media/Journalism Cringe Megathread - Hot off the Presses

Urabrask Revealed

Let them go.
Founder
Wow. That take is amusing to me.

I wonder if Carter knows that there is more than one form of government, of which democracy is one?

Or does he think that that saying the government is inefficient is somehow not valid criticism?
Of course they try to defend Democracy. Otherwise, their gravy train ends and they might get a tyrant who has a list of the elites he wants dead and their goods appropriated.
 

Cherico

Well-known member
I really have been trying to figure out where the root of this insanity on the left is coming from, My working theory is that this is clearly the work of a foreign power for the express purpose of destabilizing the US.
Like this does look like the sort of subversive activity the USSR would have engaged in during the cold war, Except in this instance I suspect it would be coming from the PRC.

Envy, uncontrolled unrestrained Envy is what creates this insanity other powers are not required at all.
 

Carrot of Truth

War is Peace
Envy, uncontrolled unrestrained Envy is what creates this insanity other powers are not required at all.

I don't see how envy alone could have resulted in what we now have, For instance I only learned of this forum due to a reddit post calling it a den of "Far right neo nazi racists" even though in reality its more like a 90's conservative atmosphere.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
I really have been trying to figure out where the root of this insanity on the left is coming from, My working theory is that this is clearly the work of a foreign power for the express purpose of destabilizing the US.
Like this does look like the sort of subversive activity the USSR would have engaged in during the cold war, Except in this instance I suspect it would be coming from the PRC.

The root of the insanity is that leftism is built on pursuit of power over others, and modern leftism is also built on post-modernism, which denies that anything such as objective truth exists, and is self-contradictory.

Modern leftism literally teaches that reality can be warped to your will, just because you will it. Combine that with the human penchant for selfishness and sin, and you can get all kinds of madness.


I don't see how envy alone could have resulted in what we now have, For instance I only learned of this forum due to a reddit post calling it a den of "Far right neo nazi racists" even though in reality its more like a 90's conservative atmosphere.

Modern leftism requires demonizing anything other than themselves. If there is an at all reasonable alternative to their position, then you can have grounds to critically analyze their position and see how it compares to something else.

Leftism always comes up wanting when that happens, thus that must be prevented.
 

Cherico

Well-known member
I don't see how envy alone could have resulted in what we now have, For instance I only learned of this forum due to a reddit post calling it a den of "Far right neo nazi racists" even though in reality its more like a 90's conservative atmosphere.

envy uncontrolled, unaknowleged envy is incredibly corosive on a spiritual and mental level.

Imagine comparing yourself to others, constantly doing so seeing an apex you cant reach, seeing success of others and thinking its not something you could ever have. It leads to a very toxic mentality that can very easily spiral into violence.

Envy however can be restrained and controlled, religion helps, learning philosphy, mediation and working through your issues and becoming comfortable in your own skin warts and all helps. But people driven by Envy make themselves and others miserable and often hide their true intentions behind equality, fairness and other virtues.

if you don't belive me communism killed over 100 million people do you think it was their love for their fellow man that slaughtered so many innocent people or Envy.

The flaw isn't in the stars man its in our selves.
 

Urabrask Revealed

Let them go.
Founder
I don't see how envy alone could have resulted in what we now have, For instance I only learned of this forum due to a reddit post calling it a den of "Far right neo nazi racists" even though in reality its more like a 90's conservative atmosphere.
Huh. Which subreddit was that statement posted in?
 

bintananth

behind a desk
I don't see how envy alone could have resulted in what we now have, For instance I only learned of this forum due to a reddit post calling it a den of "Far right neo nazi racists" even though in reality its more like a 90's conservative atmosphere.
I was pointed to TS by my big sis Euphie. She posts on SB and has been been banned from SV. She'll never post here because we're a bit too right leaning for her tastes.
 

The Whispering Monk

Well-known member
Osaul
Like this does look like the sort of subversive activity the USSR would have engaged in during the cold war, Except in this instance I suspect it would be coming from the PRC.

Follow the money, and you will see that the CCP is trying all sorts of things to gain influence over our electorate elected officials and our population.

Course, they're aren't the MAIN reason you're seeing this crap. The Left has wanted to destroy freedom in this country for generations because it gets in the way of how they want to rule.

It's for our own good after all. I mean, we're too dumb to understand just how much smarter they are than the rest of us.

(and just in case it ain't clear)
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Vaermina

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I really have been trying to figure out where the root of this insanity on the left is coming from, My working theory is that this is clearly the work of a foreign power for the express purpose of destabilizing the US.
Like this does look like the sort of subversive activity the USSR would have engaged in during the cold war, Except in this instance I suspect it would be coming from the PRC.
The media searching out and promoting clickbait.

You see in the media's attempt to garner clicks, they have been portraying both sides "crazies" as the standard members of XYZ political party. This has had the unfortunate knock on effect of convincing portions of both parties that the other is in fact made up of a majority of those "crazies" which has furthered the political divide.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
The media searching out and promoting clickbait.

You see in the media's attempt to garner clicks, they have been portraying both sides "crazies" as the standard members of XYZ political party. This has had the unfortunate knock on effect of convincing portions of both parties that the other is in fact made up of a majority of those "crazies" which has furthered the political divide.

The media is part of the problem, but the Democrats have actively and primarily been using 'the other party are racists, nazis, and every type of -phobe ther eis' for decades.
 

Cherico

Well-known member
The media is part of the problem, but the Democrats have actively and primarily been using 'the other party are racists, nazis, and every type of -phobe ther eis' for decades.


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imagine being the political party created essentally to end slavery, fight a bloody civil war to do so. Then deal with democrats creating a terrorist group to take away the rights of the newly freed black citizens, imagine spending years and decades trying to protect what little freedoms they have and trying to expand this dispite often violent opasition.

at one point the democrats get some fucktard named woodrow in and they hurl race relations back 30 fucking years and kick blacks our of the milatary you spend decades intrigating putting your ass near square fucking one. You then after 2 world wars finally undo the damage said fucktard did.

And then you get a break when the seperate but equal shit the democrats pushed finally gets its shit kicked in you celibrate by sending the mother fucking airborn in to handle this shit because you mean mother fucking business. Then the dems elect the son of a bootlegger with more charisma then sense in an election where yes they did shady stuff.

Said guy waffles over the civil rights movement you spent decades on through blood and sweat before he gets killed by some fucking commie. His replacement a hilariously corrupt and racist asshole from texas who likes showing off his dick finally throws you a bone so he can innact his murder boner in vietnam.

You pass this civil rights act dispite the democrats doing everything in their power to fuck it up, and then after spending generations of effort on this shit, after who knows how many republicans were murdered to make this happen after so many god damned set backs.

The democrats then steal all the credit and the commie media calls you and every one you know a racist and most of the people you fucking died for, forget all your hard work on their behalf and tell you to go fuck yourself. Meanwhile cities burn and your son who got fucked up in nam for the war democrats started gets spit on by some fucking hippies because fuck you right?

Now speed up things to modern day and now you have the current republican party and you wonder why the old guys are so bitter.....
 

JagerIV

Well-known member
I really have been trying to figure out where the root of this insanity on the left is coming from, My working theory is that this is clearly the work of a foreign power for the express purpose of destabilizing the US.
Like this does look like the sort of subversive activity the USSR would have engaged in during the cold war, Except in this instance I suspect it would be coming from the PRC.

Eh, it makes perfect sense within the logic of what they believe. Its just that what they believe is literal Satanism. Some literally, most seemly in the metaphoric sense. Like, I've recently discovered Marx apparently wrote quite a bit luciferic poetry:


“Why do I fiddle? Or the wild waves roar?
That they might pound the rocky shore,
That eye be blinded, that bosom swell,
That Soul’s cry carry down to Hell.”

“Fiddler, with scorn you rend your heart.
A radiant God lent you your art,
To dazzle with waves of melody,
To soar to the star-dance in the sky.”

“How so! I plunge, plunge without fail
My blood-black sabre into your soul.
That art God neither wants nor wists,
It leaps to the brain from Hell’s black mists.

“Till heart’s bewitched, till senses reel:
With Satan I have struck my deal.
He chalks the signs, beats time for me,
I play the death march fast and free.”
(p. 23)

p. 355

(Max Poem)
Heaven I would comprehend
I would draw the world to me;
Living, hating, I intend
That my star shine brilliantly...

...Worlds I would destroy forever,
Since I can create no world;
Since my call they notice never...

(Rothbard)
Here is a classical expression of Satan's supposed reason for hating, and rebelling against, God.
In another poem, Marx writes of his triumph after he shall have destroyed God's created world:

(Marx)
Then I will be able to walk triumphantly,
Like a god, through the ruins of their kingdom.
Every word of mine is fire and action.
My breast is equal to that of the Creator.

Particularly instructive is Marx's lengthy, unfinished poetic drama of this youthful period, Oulanem, A Tragedy. In the course of this drama his hero Oulanem, delivers a remarkable soliloquy, pouring out sustained invective, a hatred of the world and of mankind, a hatred of creation and a threat and vision of total world destruction.

Thus Oulanem pours out his vials of wrath:

.. .I shall howl gigantic curses on mankind:
Ha! Eternity! She is an eternal grief...
Ourselves being clockwork, blindly mechanical,
Made to be the foul-calendars of Time and Space,
Having no purpose save to happen, to be ruined,
So that there shall be something to ruin...
If there is a something which devours,
I'll leap within it, though I bring the world to ruins
The world which bulks between me and the Abyss
I will smash to pieces with my enduring curses.
I'll throw my arms around its harsh reality:
Embracing me, the world will dumbly pass away,
And then sink down to utter nothingness,
Perished, with no existence - that would be really living!

...the leaden world holds us fast,
And we are chained, shattered, empty, frightened,
Eternally chained to this marble block of Being...
and we
We are the apes of a cold God.

(Rothbard)
All this reveals a spirit that often seems to animate militant atheism. In contrast to the non-militant variety, which expresses a simple disbelief in God's existence, militant atheism seems to believe implicitly in God's existence, but to hate Him and to wage war for His destruction. Such a spirit was all too clearly revealed in the retort of the militant atheist Bakunin to the famous pro-theist remark of the deist Voltaire: 'If God did not exist, it would be necessary to create Him." To which the demented Bakunin retorted: 'If God did exist, it would be necessary to destroy Him." It was this hatred of God as a creator greater than himself that apparently inspired Karl Marx.

So, one could say its from an outside power. Its just the outside power is literally some sort of Satanic impulse. And I say this as basically an Athiest!
 

bintananth

behind a desk
Now speed up things to modern day and now you have the current republican party and you wonder why the old guys are so bitter.....
During the '60s things flip-flopped and the Republicans became the party associated with racism and segregation.

Remember: Nixon lost to Kennedy in '60 despite JFK being Catholic (and a papist shill according the press) while Nixon was Eisenhower's VP. When Nixon won in '68 the "Southern Strategy" - catering to people with, shall we say, less than equitable views on racial equality - carried the day.

Up until the 1960s every traceable American relative I've got was a Republican. After that, welp, dad was old enough to vote against Nixon in '68 (mom was 9 back then).
 

Tiamat

I've seen the future...
Eh, it makes perfect sense within the logic of what they believe. Its just that what they believe is literal Satanism. Some literally, most seemly in the metaphoric sense. Like, I've recently discovered Marx apparently wrote quite a bit luciferic poetry:




p. 355



So, one could say its from an outside power. Its just the outside power is literally some sort of Satanic impulse. And I say this as basically an Athiest!


Well, one could argue the Marxists don't so much hate religion, as rather they hate ANY potential rival, religion included, to what they see as necessary and absolute total control of the poor unfortunate Proletariat, consequences be damned with the pearly gates of Utopia in sight....or whatever it is they're seeing in that state of utter Marxist euphoria.

The irony that Marxism in some forms of belief and practice, with the personality cults of the Communist era and the "woke" beliefs of the present day, mirror in many a twisted fashion a religion unto itself. So, yeah....might be a touch of Luciferian there after all, YMMV of course.
 

Cherico

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During the '60s things flip-flopped and the Republicans became the party associated with racism and segregation.

Remember: Nixon lost to Kennedy in '60 despite JFK being Catholic (and a papist shill according the press) while Nixon was Eisenhower's VP. When Nixon won in '68 the "Southern Strategy" - catering to people with, shall we say, less than equitable views on racial equality - carried the day.

Up until the 1960s every traceable American relative I've got was a Republican. After that, welp, dad was old enough to vote against Nixon in '68 (mom was 9 back then).

we have debunked the party flip thing numerous times on this website.

This has been commented on by Tomas Sowell and other thinkers, there was no party flip. In fact the old dixycrats stayed with the party until the day they died. President Biden is on record saying some pretty henious things including the racial jungle line.

The fact is its only now that the lefts control over the media has been slightly broken that we are starting to get more and more about the truth and it isn't pleasant.
 

JagerIV

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During the '60s things flip-flopped and the Republicans became the party associated with racism and segregation.

Remember: Nixon lost to Kennedy in '60 despite JFK being Catholic (and a papist shill according the press) while Nixon was Eisenhower's VP. When Nixon won in '68 the "Southern Strategy" - catering to people with, shall we say, less than equitable views on racial equality - carried the day.

Up until the 1960s every traceable American relative I've got was a Republican. After that, welp, dad was old enough to vote against Nixon in '68 (mom was 9 back then).

Well, except Nixon lost the South in 68. Wallace won it. in 72 Nixon won the South, but he literally won everything But Massachusetts. A "win literally everywhere" strategy seems hard to define as "southern".

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Jimmy Carter then got elected in 1976, in large part on the Southern Vote:

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(A very strange southern Strategy, electing Carter as a solid southern blue wall).

Regan and Bush 1 continued the "get literally everyone but a small handful of states to vote for you" strategy, in Reagans case one of those being a deep south State.

In any sort of close election, the South is not really any sort of Republican Stronghold until the 2000 Election against southern Democrat Al Gore.
 

JagerIV

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Well, one could argue the Marxists don't so much hate religion, as rather they hate ANY potential rival, religion included, to what they see as necessary and absolute total control of the poor unfortunate Proletariat, consequences be damned with the pearly gates of Utopia in sight....or whatever it is they're seeing in that state of utter Marxist euphoria.

The irony that Marxism in some forms of belief and practice, with the personality cults of the Communist era and the "woke" beliefs of the present day, mirror in many a twisted fashion a religion unto itself. So, yeah....might be a touch of Luciferian there after all, YMMV of course.

Yeah, I think there is definitely a there there, though I do try to generally stay away from it since it is a much more, poetic truth than a simple fact. Like, a spirit of optimism, a Warriors soul, and Uncle Sam do mean something when I say it to people. What exactly those words mean though is a more general sense, rather than an easy list of universal features. Like other such useful, theological? terms, like good and evil, they resist easy categorization, and even when one does make a pithy 1-2 sentence definition, they seem inadequate to the full depth of the meaning.

But, yeah, where, maybe 4 years ago I was in the "huh, there seem to be an awful lot of literal communists around", as they have felt less need to hide their, well, communist evilness, there's been a bit more showing of the rest of their depravities and I'm starting to go "huh, their seems to be a lot of literal satanism around". Which is another step worse. Communist you can sort of pretend its confused people who are well meaning.

As you look more into it however you often find these people are well, actually evil: like above where in his poetry Marx does not lament the plight of the poor, like a Dickens would. Instead, he Laments that he is not equal to god, since he can't create the world, he will instead destroy it out of spite. That is a deeply evil view.

I think George Orwell made a similar observation about the Socialists of his day, that they did not love the poor, but hated the rich.

Now I am seeing people as divergent as James Lindsey and Auron MacIntyre discussing a more, for a lack of a better word, spiritual dimension to it. Like, Greed and Pride are certainly big parts of it, but I'm not sure that really captures the scale of greed and immense pride of people who would rage that they are not equal to god. That reality itself is an oppressive burden to be overthrown.

Arrogance seems too small a world for people with such a plan, and I can hardly imagine thinking such things, but it seems such people exist, there are more than I'd like, and their more powerful than I'd imagine.
 

Bigking321

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I feel that the southern switch was just the old democrats dying off and their kids and grandkids not really wanting to be part of the racist democrats anymore.

And then the democrats and the media claiming that it was because the racist southerners realized the party of Lincoln were the real racists and wanted to be with them. They just thought it was democrats up to that point for some reason till they figured out the truth.
 

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