Media/Journalism Cringe Megathread - Hot off the Presses

Rocinante

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In the Trump era, the existing liberal tendency for double standards was crystalized. History, facts, and principles don't matter, only the question of 'does this help or hurt Trump?'

As we can see, this effect is going to outlast Trump by a long time.
This is so true. The media used to at least pretend to have standards before Trump, then CNN became about as bad as the worst fake news sites.
 

S'task

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This is so true. The media used to at least pretend to have standards before Trump, then CNN became about as bad as the worst fake news sites.
hahahaha...

Yeah no.

The mainstream media has been terrible since at least the 80s, if not potentially earlier. You just weren't aware of it because there was no industry of conservative reporting or grassroots opinion generation like the internet to point out all the issues with the media from the time you were growing up. Not unless you happened to be in one of the groups the media constantly misrepresented like deep in the Pro-Life Movement, the first wave Homeschool Movement, or the Evangelical Right.

They never had standards, or rather, their standards were always "what favors the left". Now, they were frequently more subtle about it, usually spinning things exclusively via framing and omission, but they did it all the time.

Why do you think so many people believe the "Satanic Panic" and Anti-DnD push of the 80s originated with the Social Conservatives rather than the mainstream media (via 60 Minutes)? Why do people automatically assume that it was Social Conservatives who were all about censoring music in the 90s, when it was a bipartisan affair with high profile democrats? Why do you think that everyone assumes it was all Social Conservatives who were pushing laws against video games when the panic was bipartisan and it was Democrats in Democratic States that actually passed laws, not Republicans? Why do you think Westborough Baptist Church was the popular "face" of anti-LGBT "Christian Conservatives" despite literally being a single-family Church that is not actually associated with any of the Baptist conventions in the US?

Because those were the stories the media decided to tell. They basically pretend they and Holywood played no role in pushing the more panic about Dnd. They put Social Conservatives as the main front people for music censorship while quitely downplaying the major Dem figures who were involved. They focused on Jack Kemp and his antics in regards to legal activities in regards to video games, rather than reporting on the laws passed in California, Illinois, and proposed by (then) Senator Hillary Clinton to regulate them.

The media has always been manipulating things against the Right and for the Left for decades.

This stuff is why I always laugh by the Late Millenials and Zennials who moan about how Conservatives have Conserved nothing, and everything is getting worse. They should be, frankly, wondering how the fuck the American Conservative movement has managed to survive as long as it has and held what ground it has, because it's always been playing against a heavily tilted field while they just ate up the 90s and 00s narrative about Republicans and the Right.
 

Cherico

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hahahaha...

Yeah no.

The mainstream media has been terrible since at least the 80s, if not potentially earlier. You just weren't aware of it because there was no industry of conservative reporting or grassroots opinion generation like the internet to point out all the issues with the media from the time you were growing up. Not unless you happened to be in one of the groups the media constantly misrepresented like deep in the Pro-Life Movement, the first wave Homeschool Movement, or the Evangelical Right.

They never had standards, or rather, their standards were always "what favors the left". Now, they were frequently more subtle about it, usually spinning things exclusively via framing and omission, but they did it all the time.

Why do you think so many people believe the "Satanic Panic" and Anti-DnD push of the 80s originated with the Social Conservatives rather than the mainstream media (via 60 Minutes)? Why do people automatically assume that it was Social Conservatives who were all about censoring music in the 90s, when it was a bipartisan affair with high profile democrats? Why do you think that everyone assumes it was all Social Conservatives who were pushing laws against video games when the panic was bipartisan and it was Democrats in Democratic States that actually passed laws, not Republicans? Why do you think Westborough Baptist Church was the popular "face" of anti-LGBT "Christian Conservatives" despite literally being a single-family Church that is not actually associated with any of the Baptist conventions in the US?

Because those were the stories the media decided to tell. They basically pretend they and Holywood played no role in pushing the more panic about Dnd. They put Social Conservatives as the main front people for music censorship while quitely downplaying the major Dem figures who were involved. They focused on Jack Kemp and his antics in regards to legal activities in regards to video games, rather than reporting on the laws passed in California, Illinois, and proposed by (then) Senator Hillary Clinton to regulate them.

The media has always been manipulating things against the Right and for the Left for decades.

This stuff is why I always laugh by the Late Millenials and Zennials who moan about how Conservatives have Conserved nothing, and everything is getting worse. They should be, frankly, wondering how the fuck the American Conservative movement has managed to survive as long as it has and held what ground it has, because it's always been playing against a heavily tilted field while they just ate up the 90s and 00s narrative about Republicans and the Right.

Keep in mind its easier to see current losses then incremental gains.

The left had a litteral super power in the soviet union giving them all of the support they could, now the soviet unions gone, the communist world is dead and even china's power is looking more and more ragged with time. For the first time in generations the left is being forced to stand on its own two feet.

And their stumbling.
 

Bigking321

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I dunno.

They just blatantly stole a election and seem to have control of or ability to intimidate everything that might have stopped them and have monopolistic control of the media and a willingness to try and utterly destroy anyone that dares oppose them. They have completely corrupted the culture and control the education system and seem to have total immunity from having to follow the same rules and laws as the rest of us.

They may be really weak in reality but it feels like they just assumed total control...

Personally I hope your right.
 

LordsFire

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I dunno.

They just blatantly stole a election and seem to have control of or ability to intimidate everything that might have stopped them and have monopolistic control of the media and a willingness to try and utterly destroy anyone that dares oppose them. They have completely corrupted the culture and control the education system and seem to have total immunity from having to follow the same rules and laws as the rest of us.

They may be really weak in reality but it feels like they just assumed total control...

Personally I hope your right.

We're at a crossroads. Their ability to subvert through subtle and clever deception is destroyed.

But they are making a beserk grab for total power and control.

One way or another, something will break. And we'll end up either in tyranny, or beating the liberal beast back for another generation.
 

Cherico

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We're at a crossroads. Their ability to subvert through subtle and clever deception is destroyed.

But they are making a beserk grab for total power and control.

One way or another, something will break. And we'll end up either in tyranny, or beating the liberal beast back for another generation.


In my opinion, I think we have 8-12 years of fuckery before we get an even bigger and angerier populist movement that will be our last chance of peaceful reform. If that fails then a series of civil wars starts.

When the dust of all of that is over millions of people will be dead and traditionalism will return as a very powerful force.
 

Bigking321

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Assuming China doesn't just nuke us when it looks like we are starting to recover from this nonsense.

Edit. Sorry about being so pessimistic at the moment. It's been a rough couple of months.
 

Cherico

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Assuming China doesn't just nuke us when it looks like we are starting to recover from this nonsense.

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this is a map of east asia.

Taiwan, Japan, philipines, in order for China to get the oil they need to keep the lights on their tankers which are slow lumbering beasts because all tankers are must go past this first island chain this chain is also composed of hostle powers.

Next those tankers have to get through an area boarding Malasia, vietnam and indonesia another group of potentially hostle islands.

After that those tankers have to get past India who internationally speaking does have a decent navy and is absolutely livid about the China meddling in what it feels is its own back yard.

Once those tankers get past india they are now in the middle east which is now currently a cold war situation between the saudi's and Iranians. So now those tankers have to pick sides in a centuries long blood feud and get their oil.

Now full of oil said tankers must get past india, then it has to get through the straits and then past the first island chain.


The only reason those tankers get their safely is because the united states has for generations now protected every ones trade with every one else. Remove the united states navy from the situation and now realize that the second largest navy in the world is Japan, and every one else in the region has a bone to pick with china.

China's got bigger problems then us.
 

Zachowon

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Assuming China doesn't just nuke us when it looks like we are starting to recover from this nonsense.

Edit. Sorry about being so pessimistic at the moment. It's been a rough couple of months.
Nukes wouldn't be used in a civil war, and we would be keeping those able to do control such things.
So we nuke them when they launch
 

Zachowon

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I have no idea why You Would assume such a thing. Who's going to keep them under control, the UN? One side of the civil war?
Because firing a nuke is hard to do without being fired on in the first place.
There are so many steps in order for a nuke to be fired, and there may be a split within those that have access and reasonability in the first place.
One shouldbalso mention, it is also highly unlikely federal forces will be brought to bare, as the amount that would not follow said orders is high...
Basically, there are to many ways for them not to be fired, and add in the fact that the launching of a nuke, even on ones self will cause others to use them, and then end of the world.
 

Husky_Khan

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Salon wrote a piece titled:

How the abuse of Britney Spears led to the GOP's war on women
The obsession with Britney Spears' virginity was the first shot in a 20-year war on millennial women


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Yes, somehow Britney Spears being abused by her jerkoff parents or guardians or whatever turned out to be the opening salvos of GOP's "War On Women."

To the authors credit, a FEMALE named Amanda Marcotte, it took her only TEN paragraphs to set up how the GOP is apparently responsible for the War On Women and linking it to Britney Spears.

Long story short, the 'War on Women' started with the George W. Bush presidency:

Salon said:
After the election of George W. Bush in 2000, the newly empowered religious right went to war on young people. Abstinence-only education, which preached against the use of contraception and told kids to "wait" until marriage, was foisted on public schools. Purity rings and virginity pledges became trends, especially in red America.

But yes it's not until Paragraph Ten when she actually links the GoP's 'War on Women' to Britney Spears in the respect that Rush Limbaugh apparently talked about Britney Spears and her advocacy for birth control repeatedly on his radio show. Then the Author said that Rush Limbaugh's tirades against Britney Spears was only the beginning.

Salon said:
The first couple of decades witnessed the rise of an entire anti-feminist industrial complex that was geared largely around preventing millennial women from accessing the gains that were promised in their "girl power" youths. Anti-feminists — who were often older women exploiting sexist fears — like Christina Hoff Somners and Caitlin Flanagan penned well-publicized tomes declaring that it was boys who were the "real" victims of sexist oppression, how "girl power" was ruining young women, and how women are secretly happier being housewives. This era also saw the rise of the "men's rights" movement, which has rapidly expanded into all manners of sexist hate communities, from the incels to the Jordan Peterson fans to the Proud Boys.

To a large extent, this backlash worked, at least on a lot of millennial men. Polling shows millennials, especially white men, are more likely than gen-Xers to agree that husbands should be the primary authority in the family. Millennial men tend to reflexively view women as less intelligent than men and they still expect their wives to do most of the housework. And while millennial men and women both less conservative than the older generations, there is a persistent gender gap, with 44% of millennial men voting Republican compared to only 31% of millennial women.
 

Captain X

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Well that sure came out of nowhere...

Incidentally, Britney Spears is still in a pretty shit place in life, as she is basically a prisoner of her father currently. So it's kind of funny to see her used as a cudgel against the GoP when feminists and their lackeys on the left have done fuck-all to actually help that woman.
 

Cherico

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Well that sure came out of nowhere...

Incidentally, Britney Spears is still in a pretty shit place in life, as she is basically a prisoner of her father currently. So it's kind of funny to see her used as a cudgel against the GoP when feminists and their lackeys on the left have done fuck-all to actually help that woman.

Feminists are about helping women in the same sense that the KKK is about helping white people in other words not at all.
 

Captain X

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I actually pointed that out pretty early on to some of them, including the fact that one of the people who participated in that attack had her sentence commuted by Clinton and has since gone on to be a leader in the BLM movement. Naturally, they don't care, and "but no one was hurt" became the typical response.
 

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